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Post by imaginaryfriend on Apr 10, 2019 7:03:35 GMT
The Court claims they were both in the same research facility as the seeds. It probably wouldn't have been a good idea to give "Loup" the goose bone and lake water anyway. As parts of Coyote I think they'll accelerate the problems.
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Post by philman on Apr 10, 2019 7:19:36 GMT
And so begins the epic quest for the goose bone and water.This is where the real comic starts, everything else was just preamble.
Even got ourselves a proper council of Elrond to form the Fellowship of the goose bone.
Also, does anyone really believe that they were lost? Or is this just what the Court told Andrew, as why the hell would the court want to give their enemy the two items he needs to become even more powerful?
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Post by imaginaryfriend on Apr 10, 2019 7:23:26 GMT
"If only we had a water elemental to help us find where that lake wat... Oops."
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Post by theonethatgotaway on Apr 10, 2019 7:33:30 GMT
"Hey Andrew, could you luck-teleport us together with Parley to where the bone and water are? 'kay, thanks" Would that work?
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Post by keef on Apr 10, 2019 7:45:16 GMT
And so begins the real quest for the goose bone and water.This is where the real comic starts, everything else was just preamble. Even got ourselves a proper council of Elrond to form the Fellowship of the goose bone. Or tot put it differently: now they have to come up with a really convoluted scheme (to fool a god) and all the rest was just training. And congrats Tom Siddell , for surprising (probably) everybody reading this comic.
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Post by imaginaryfriend on Apr 10, 2019 7:46:49 GMT
"Hey Andrew, could you luck-teleport us together with Parley to where the bone and water are? 'kay, thanks" Would that work? If the water's seeped into the ground and the bone is under several million tons of tree then I guess they'd wind up as close as they can get without teleporting into a solid object. Or they'd just go to some other location that has something that they really need.
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Post by saardvark on Apr 10, 2019 7:57:45 GMT
Hmm. The way Kat is side-glancing Frannie is interesting. She is clearly looking for her reaction to this news.... But why has it taken this long to tell Frannie where the objects were? I suppose the Court may not have told Andrew where the objects were stored until recently, but this raises another question: is Andrew's reply here actually factual? Did the Court lie to him about the objects' whereabouts? It's quite possible that the Court would want to "study" these objects, and the Mega-tree growth would be a convenient excuse to both hold onto the objects and relieve the Court ever having to return them (and thus risk Loup's further empowerment). An even more troublesome thought: does Andrew know that this is a lie, and this is some sort of "Frannie-test" of "who are you loyal to"? (I don't think this is as likely, but it is possible....)
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Post by imaginaryfriend on Apr 10, 2019 8:07:50 GMT
The Court does have reasons to lie. The bone and water are valuable samples for study and for future dealings with "Loup" they're bargaining chips. Also: Now the only thing that Frannie has to offer "Loup" is Renard's body-stealing gift, which is probably something they'd rather Renard not have. But it could well be the truth. Without a big workforce of qualified people to study the gifts I think there's a good chance they were indeed in the same facility.
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Post by noone3 on Apr 10, 2019 8:12:38 GMT
Even got ourselves a proper council of Elrond to form the Fellowship of the goose bone. Well, now all we need is to reclaim it and find a suitably placed active volcano somewhere deep in Gillity Fo... what? Annies just incinerated the blasted thing? Welp! Lets move on then.
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Post by madjack on Apr 10, 2019 8:13:42 GMT
Hmm. The way Kat is side-glancing Frannie is interesting. I think one possibility is that Kat is glancing at her because this is 'her' quest and she's the one most familiar with its giver in Loup. Her reaction might be a good gauge of how he would take an "errr, sorry but we kinda umm..." response. I actually find it more interesting that both Annies reacted the same way.
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Post by saardvark on Apr 10, 2019 8:31:14 GMT
Hmm. The way Kat is side-glancing Frannie is interesting. I think one possibility is that Kat is glancing at her because this is 'her' quest and she's the one most familiar with its giver in Loup. Her reaction might be a good gauge of how he would take an "errr, sorry but we kinda umm..." response. I actually find it more interesting that both Annies reacted the same way. yes, suggesting this is new information to both of them. side thought: I wonder what happens to a Mega-tree when it is watered by Coyote sauce? (Its hard to imagine the vial surviving intact after the Mega-growth...)
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Post by MarineMonarch on Apr 10, 2019 9:33:54 GMT
On the one hand it's not unlikely that the court is lying about the location of the bone and water. On the other, Loup accidentally destroying the two things he actually wants in his initial thoughtless attack against the court is pretty in-character.
Either way I expect the Annie's are gonna take this as truth, so that brings up the question: how to explain to a psychopathic wolf God that he's been hoisted by his own petard?
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Post by csj on Apr 10, 2019 10:37:56 GMT
Where's Randy Disaster when you need him? This is where the real comic starts, everything else was just preamble. GKC, Act 6(Act 6 (Act 6))
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Post by wanderer on Apr 10, 2019 10:50:08 GMT
Is no one else concerned about those two odd shadows on the wall in the final panel? They look like people, but don't appear to match any people in the room.
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Post by imaginaryfriend on Apr 10, 2019 11:05:24 GMT
Is no one else concerned about those two odd shadows on the wall in the final panel? They look like people, but don't appear to match any people in the room. Rather than shadows I think that's supposed to be Paz and Margo in the next room. [edit]On second glance they're shadows and the light source is coming from the left so they're around that corner.[/edit]
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Post by foxurus on Apr 10, 2019 11:27:29 GMT
And congrats Tom Siddell , for surprising (probably) everybody reading this comic. I must just be tired, but why is this page particularly surprising?
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Post by pyradonis on Apr 10, 2019 11:52:48 GMT
Phhhh! You don't just put gifts into some storage facility!
Probably had something to do with the Standard Decontaminaton Procedure.
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Post by philman on Apr 10, 2019 11:59:00 GMT
Or tot put it differently: now they have to come up with a really convoluted scheme (to fool a god) and all the rest was just training. And congrats Tom Siddell , for surprising (probably) everybody reading this comic. Well we all know that this is really a comic about girls getting haircuts after all. The goose bone is the magical etheric razor and the water is the best natural conditioner that exists. Is no one else concerned about those two odd shadows on the wall in the final panel? They look like people, but don't appear to match any people in the room. Rather than shadows I think that's supposed to be Paz and Margo in the next room. Paz and Margo are shadow people! Infiltration complete, playing the long game!
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Post by todd on Apr 10, 2019 12:44:23 GMT
On the one hand it's not unlikely that the court is lying about the location of the bone and water. On the other, Loup accidentally destroying the two things he actually wants in his initial thoughtless attack against the court is pretty in-character. Either way I expect the Annie's are gonna take this as truth, so that brings up the question: how to explain to a psychopathic wolf God that he's been hoisted by his own petard? Assuming that Loup will see it as that. He might instead interpret it as an opportunity to renew his attack on the Court (which he wants to do anyway*) on the grounds that Annie didn't uphold her part of the agreement - and viewing the fact that the items he demanded are lost (and lost because of his own attack) as details. Besides, he can probably recover them from the ruins of the Court, after its fall. *Not to mention that he's got an army thirsting for battle, which has been held back for years, maybe even centuries, and which probably even he can't restrain for long.
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Post by fia on Apr 10, 2019 12:45:49 GMT
Was the last time the goose bone and water were seen when Annie said goodbye to Parley and Andrew in the goose story chapter? Did we ever see them again?
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Post by ctso74 on Apr 10, 2019 13:33:27 GMT
It makes sense, that the two items would be kept in the same facility as the seeds. However, it also makes sense, that the Court would lie through its teeth about having them. So begins The Carver Twin Mysteries, which is awesome.
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Post by sleepcircle on Apr 10, 2019 14:20:42 GMT
what i think has happened here is that coyote knew that loup would go after these things INSTANTLY, and so relied on the court's way of storing and treating forest objects to end them up near the seeds, against the day of their sprouting. i think, in essence, that coyote has outsmarted loup.
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Post by keef on Apr 10, 2019 15:11:20 GMT
And congrats Tom Siddell , for surprising (probably) everybody reading this comic. I must just be tired, but why is this page particularly surprising? A lot of theories about what would happen next were based on the significance of bone and water. Seemingly nobody considered the possibility that they might have been lost. But I was obviously wrong as you were not surprised
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Post by Eve Swann on Apr 10, 2019 15:12:15 GMT
Until it's said otherwise, I'm assuming everything that happens is part of Coyote's longterm plan.
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Post by sicklykobold on Apr 10, 2019 15:31:51 GMT
I don't want to say this, but the way Eyebrows delivers these news makes me really suspicious. I don't think he's just repeating the Court's lies, I believe he has been somehow persuaded that misleading Annies might be in their and everyone elses best interests.
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Post by netherdan on Apr 10, 2019 16:07:58 GMT
side thought: I wonder what happens to a Mega-tree when it is watered by Coyote sauce? (Its hard to imagine the vial surviving intact after the Mega-growth...) The tree is a Coyote! It is magnificent that CoyoteReborn still lives in such a marvelous shape and size! On the one hand stinger it's not unlikely that the court is lying about the location of the bone and water. On the other, Loup accidentally destroying the two things he actually wants in his initial thoughtless attack against the court is pretty in-character. There, Monky, fixed it for you!
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Post by Gemini Jim on Apr 10, 2019 16:35:15 GMT
Obviously, we need some fedoras because it's time for
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Post by todd on Apr 10, 2019 16:48:55 GMT
While the Court's shown itself to be untrustworthy plenty of times, I'm not sure it's lying here. It probably would keep those objects in a place like that (and it's certainly an appealing thought that Loup unwittingly made it harder to get those objects by his attack - another case of "He's trying to act like Coyote, but can't quite manage it").
As to whether it's a good idea to turn those over to Loup - I had speculated (and I'm probably not the only one who's done so) that Loup getting them might trigger something that would restore Coyote to the world, thus ending the problem - at least, until Coyote comes up with another scheme that endangers the Court as a side-effect. But that's just a speculation, and we don't know that that's what would happen.
If it doesn't, the best it could do would be to appease Loup (which the Court might seriously consider; it took that route with Coyote once he started knocking buildings down) - and even that wouldn't last long, because there's still that business about the Court doing something that's undermining the etheric nature of Gilltie Wood. As long as the Court's doing that, Loup's going to continue seeking the Court's destruction. (And, of course, whatever the Court's doing is most likely so connected to its purpose that it's unlikely to stop doing it - meaning that Loup's war on the Court will continue....)
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Post by ohthatone on Apr 10, 2019 18:53:55 GMT
I wonder if Annie will question why Smitty and Parley handed over Coyote's gifts to them to the Court. It may have been part of the decontamination process, but Annie never got that treatment, so I don't know why Smitty and Parley would.
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Post by mturtle7 on Apr 10, 2019 19:21:56 GMT
I wonder if Annie will question why Smitty and Parley handed over Coyote's gifts to them to the Court. It may have been part of the decontamination process, but Annie never got that treatment, so I don't know why Smitty and Parley would. Bringing home leaves and flowers and such requires a slightly different procedure than bringing home THE STILL-LIVING PIECES OF AN ACTUAL GOD.
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