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Post by spritznar on Mar 13, 2019 7:07:29 GMT
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Post by aquamafia on Mar 13, 2019 7:08:32 GMT
Cue the Persona 4 music
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Post by wombat on Mar 13, 2019 7:12:11 GMT
I am [she] as you are [she] as you are me and we are all together.
I really like F!Annie's face in the 6th panel.
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Post by spritznar on Mar 13, 2019 7:21:44 GMT
i really can't decide if i think tom's going to have the annies combined back into one or if we're just going to have two annies forevermore... (my friend pointed out kat's already got annie pulling from the dbz playbook, there may be a fusion dance in our future) |
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Post by Gemini Jim on Mar 13, 2019 7:24:16 GMT
i really can't decide if i think tom's going to have the annies combined back into one or if we're just going to have two annies forevermore... (my friend pointed out kat's already got annie pulling from the dbz playbook, there may be a fusion dance in our future) I would love to see the fusion dance as a bonus page. EDIT: Or maybe it's more like that other show with a fusion dance and a mother who died. Antimony is a metallic element... For the real thing, maybe they just finally reach out to each other and hug. |
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Post by madjack on Mar 13, 2019 7:31:49 GMT
i really can't decide if i think tom's going to have the annies combined back into one or if we're just going to have two annies forevermore... (my friend pointed out kat's already got annie pulling from the dbz playbook, there may be a fusion dance in our future) What if it's all misdirection and they can't touch? Finally come to terms with themselves, shake hands to make up and BANG, both blown against the wall. |
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Post by iver on Mar 13, 2019 8:09:18 GMT
Oh, sweet sweet harmony, how I have missed you so!
It's gonna be a long road for these two, one epiphany at a time.
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Post by artezzatrigger on Mar 13, 2019 8:27:25 GMT
"From the sea of thy soul, I come..."
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Post by Eily on Mar 13, 2019 8:39:59 GMT
I've got two things to say about this page:
1) I love it
2) Tom is a genius*
* But we already knew that
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Post by saardvark on Mar 13, 2019 8:43:28 GMT
Building on jda's excellent idea on the last page's thread ([2120], page 2), it seems like Loup has split Annie in a way that the two halves have slightly different aspects of original-Annie's personality: Courtnie has the more fiery, aggressive, confident, assertive, fearless, bold, angry, harsher side of Annie (arising perhaps from her fire-elemental character) while Frannie/Sylvie has more introverted, thoughtful, cautious, empathetic, self critical side (arising from the human side, Tony especially). Perhaps this odd twinning is a secret boon, allowing Annie to better understand herself, and eventually better able to integrate both aspects of her character into a positive, productive whole (if she reunites) or to work together effectively and grow to love both sides of herself and see how both are integral and important (if she remains as twins).
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Post by Igniz on Mar 13, 2019 8:43:30 GMT
"But the worst enemy you can meet will always be yourself; you lie in wait for yourself in caverns and forests. Lonely one, you are going the way to yourself! And your way goes past yourself, and past your seven devils! You will be a heretic to yourself and witch and soothsayer and fool and doubter and unholy one and villain. You must be ready to burn yourself in your own flame: how could you become new, if you had not first become ashes?" - Friedrich Nietzsche my friend pointed out kat's already got annie pulling from the dbz playbook, there may be a fusion dance in our future Being that originally they were one and the same, rather than use the Fusion Dance (or the Potaras) they would go the Piccolo way. What if it's all misdirection and they can't touch? Finally come to terms with themselves, shake hands to make up and BANG, both blown against the wall. We all remember what happened to Senator McComb, who ten years ago left his office, canceled all his appointments... disappeared, nobody's ever seen him since. |
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Post by ih8pkmn on Mar 13, 2019 10:34:43 GMT
It may just be because I binged the entire Persona 4 anime, but now I'm legitimately wondering what Annie's arcana would be. I feel like Kat would be the High Priestess, so maybe The Star? |
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Post by kaivetieno on Mar 13, 2019 10:41:15 GMT
It may just be because I binged the entire Persona 4 anime, but now I'm legitimately wondering what Annie's arcana would be. I feel like Kat would be the High Priestess, so maybe The Star? I always wonder what Arcana people are. Kat would be High Priestess, and I think Annie would either be Tower or Star. I think Shadow is also Star, Robot is either Death or Fortune, and Paz is Lovers. |
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Post by Timberwere on Mar 13, 2019 11:11:16 GMT
This page gave me such a pleasant surprise.
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Post by noone3 on Mar 13, 2019 11:25:48 GMT
there may be a fusion dance in our future) And now the whole chapter is about which Saiyan level they will be... . . . Oh, oh! Let it be the one with the tail... |
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Post by imaginaryfriend on Mar 13, 2019 11:29:03 GMT
That turned around much faster than I anticipated. I figured Courtnie would need half a page of silent contemplation or more before she'd start trying to carefully amend her previous statements into something less belligerent yet here she is backpedaling. I wonder if Antimony's long-speculated etheric attractiveness could work on herself. Also: Both Antimonies are sitting on the same step in almost exactly the same pose (nearly a mirror image, actually) and the same distance from the POV and Courtnie is just a hair taller than Fannie. |
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Post by heranje on Mar 13, 2019 12:02:52 GMT
Uneven split or not, I feel like the dialogue between the Annies is a good example of what an internal monologue would look like externalised. You're never as cruel to anyone else as you are to yourself - but when "yourself" is suddenly manifested in another person, you might suddenly look twice at that cruelty.
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Post by saardvark on Mar 13, 2019 12:44:34 GMT
That turned around much faster than I anticipated. I figured Courtnie would need half a page of silent contemplation or more before she'd start trying to carefully amend her previous statements into something less belligerent yet here she is backpedaling. I wonder if Antimony's long-speculated etheric attractiveness could work on herself. Frannie's etheric attractiveness might have an especially strong effect on Courtnie, since the latter seems more ruled by the more fiery/impetuous etheric/"elemental" part of their joint nature. |
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Post by Per on Mar 13, 2019 12:58:10 GMT
Building on jda's excellent idea on the last page's thread ([2120], page 2), it seems like Loup has split Annie in a way that the two halves have slightly different aspects of original-Annie's personality: She seemed to display a normal range of attitudes talking to Loup in the forest, though. |
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Post by bicarbonat on Mar 13, 2019 13:14:18 GMT
i really can't decide if i think tom's going to have the annies combined back into one or if we're just going to have two annies forevermore... (my friend pointed out kat's already got annie pulling from the dbz playbook, there may be a fusion dance in our future) What if it's all misdirection and they can't touch? Finally come to terms with themselves, shake hands to make up and BANG, both blown against the wall. Now I'm thinking about that part in X-Factor where Jamie Madrox finally holds his dupe's newborn son, only to instantly absorb him while his mother screams. If we get anything remotely adjacent to that level of OH NO, I'll be ecstatic(ally shattered). |
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Post by netherdan on Mar 13, 2019 13:38:47 GMT
What if it's all misdirection and they can't touch? Finally come to terms with themselves, shake hands to make up and BANG, both blown against the wall. Now I'm thinking about that part in X-Factor where Jamie Madrox finally holds his dupe's newborn son, only to instantly absorb him while his mother screams. If we get anything remotely adjacent to that level of OH NO, I'll be ecstatic(ally shattered). What if they merge only physically and their etheric counterparts keeps inhabiting the same body? Kinda like the situation in the Beyond: Two Souls game where one is always in etheric form, or they could swap somehow and switch personalities. She will be her own "blinker stone" and will be able to do things no other fire elemental could. Major character development without erasing Annie of them |
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Post by saardvark on Mar 13, 2019 13:42:49 GMT
Building on jda's excellent idea on the last page's thread ([2120], page 2), it seems like Loup has split Annie in a way that the two halves have slightly different aspects of original-Annie's personality: She seemed to display a normal range of attitudes talking to Loup in the forest, though. Agreed. Im not saying the split is 100% sharp and clean; Courtnie doesnt have all the fire, Frannie doesnt have all the empathy. Clearly Courtnie in todays comic, after verbally flogging Frannie to tears, does finally show some empathy, thoughtfulness & introspection. I guess Im just saying that the split was uneven, and the resulting Annies have slightly different personalities, with some traits weighted more in one, some more in the other.... |
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Post by ctso74 on Mar 13, 2019 14:11:00 GMT
Building on jda's excellent idea on the last page's thread ([2120], page 2), it seems like Loup has split Annie in a way that the two halves have slightly different aspects of original-Annie's personality: Courtnie has the more fiery, aggressive, confident, assertive, fearless, bold, angry, harsher side of Annie (arising perhaps from her fire-elemental character) while Frannie/Sylvie has more introverted, thoughtful, cautious, empathetic, self critical side (arising from the human side, Tony especially). Perhaps this odd twinning is a secret boon, allowing Annie to better understand herself, and eventually better able to integrate both aspects of her character into a positive, productive whole (if she reunites) or to work together effectively and grow to love both sides of herself and see how both are integral and important (if she remains as twins). Very much this. Courtnie owning up to her behavior is pretty mature of her. It's generally hard to see yourself as the villain in any situation, let alone when being that way to "yourself". Makes me wonder, if the Court has an etheric/AI mirror for "self psychoanalysis". I would hope they don't use a robot psychotherapist. Outside of CBT, I'm uncertain if that would be interesting to see, or sadly hilarious. |
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Post by sleepcircle on Mar 13, 2019 14:24:27 GMT
That turned around much faster than I anticipated. I figured Courtnie would need half a page of silent contemplation or more before she'd start trying to carefully amend her previous statements into something less belligerent yet here she is backpedaling. I wonder if Antimony's long-speculated etheric attractiveness could work on herself. Also: Both Antimonies are sitting on the same step in almost exactly the same pose (nearly a mirror image, actually) and the same distance from the POV and Courtnie is just a hair taller than Fannie. not all these incidents between the two of them are isolated from each other. Courtnie could've been dimly aware of something off about her own behaviour since soon after Frannie arrived, and just angrily kept shrugging it off with self-justifications. by which i mean: she could've been silently contemplating for a while now, regardless of her best efforts not to.
regardless, being so nasty that you make someone burst into tears is a pretty fresh, clear slap-in-the-face of a wake-up call. it's an extremely awkward feeling, if nothing else.
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Post by coastal on Mar 13, 2019 15:24:21 GMT
While all that's happening here is all well and good, there's this part of my brain that can't stop wondering how long they have before Parley starts looking for them...
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Post by saardvark on Mar 13, 2019 15:53:07 GMT
While all that's happening here is all well and good, there's this part of my brain that can't stop wondering how long they have before Parley starts looking for them... or the ashray! Is it still floundering around in the water ineffectually? it seems it can crawl up walls and stairwells, so Im surprised it hasn't followed them. Maybe the Annies fell close to its "nest"and it was bering territorially protective. Once the Annies left, Mr Ashray settled down to blowing bubbles, or blue-oozing around, or poking things with its scorpion paws, or whatever bored ashrays do... |
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Post by ohthatone on Mar 13, 2019 16:45:57 GMT
While all that's happening here is all well and good, there's this part of my brain that can't stop wondering how long they have before Parley starts looking for them... my guess is it's been 30-40 minutes depending on how long they've been wandering the bunker and tunnels off screen.
I'm also surprised by the quick apology and introspection, and glad for it. It's actually a very important page for me personally. Would I be able to forgive myself so quickly? Had I the opportunity I'd probably want to beat the living snot out of past me. Would Future me would want to do the same to Present me? I hope the two Annies take this as a opportunity to grow a bit.
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Post by tustin2121 on Mar 13, 2019 17:12:33 GMT
Major character development without erasing Annie of them I see what you did there. |
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Post by zaferion on Mar 13, 2019 17:22:17 GMT
Building on jda's excellent idea on the last page's thread ([2120], page 2), it seems like Loup has split Annie in a way that the two halves have slightly different aspects of original-Annie's personality: Courtnie has the more fiery, aggressive, confident, assertive, fearless, bold, angry, harsher side of Annie (arising perhaps from her fire-elemental character) while Frannie/Sylvie has more introverted, thoughtful, cautious, empathetic, self critical side (arising from the human side, Tony especially). Perhaps this odd twinning is a secret boon, allowing Annie to better understand herself, and eventually better able to integrate both aspects of her character into a positive, productive whole (if she reunites) or to work together effectively and grow to love both sides of herself and see how both are integral and important (if she remains as twins). I don't know if I buy this theory simply because it just seems too hokey for Tom. But also: Courtnie has been through a lot in the last 6 months. She's had to deal with Tony and things apparently haven't gone her way, she and the rest of the Court have been thrown into this war of attrition against the Forest, and she's been heralded as the savior of the Court that ended the attacks from the Forest. That could drastically change anyone's personality, especially a temperamental 14/15 year old girl, even without some contrived personality-split-in-half thing. On the other hand, Sylvie is not in a place of power in the Court anymore. She's the Annie that has to reintegrate and had her entire support system ripped out from under her. So she's not going to be spitting fire and venom like Courtnie is largely because she feels vulnerable and alone, but also because if she swaggered into this situation with a temper like that, she'd likely have been imprisoned nearly immediately. Sylvie doesn't have the luxury to be haughty and petulant. Furthermore, if this theory was true, Sylvie would have been more reserved and sensitive and, dare I say it, easily manipulated in her conversation with Loup. But she had her anger, her fire, her sass while she was there all the way until the very last page. |
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Post by saardvark on Mar 13, 2019 18:19:56 GMT
Building on jda's excellent idea on the last page's thread ([2120], page 2), it seems like Loup has split Annie in a way that the two halves have slightly different aspects of original-Annie's personality: Courtnie has the more fiery, aggressive, confident, assertive, fearless, bold, angry, harsher side of Annie (arising perhaps from her fire-elemental character) while Frannie/Sylvie has more introverted, thoughtful, cautious, empathetic, self critical side (arising from the human side, Tony especially). Perhaps this odd twinning is a secret boon, allowing Annie to better understand herself, and eventually better able to integrate both aspects of her character into a positive, productive whole (if she reunites) or to work together effectively and grow to love both sides of herself and see how both are integral and important (if she remains as twins). I don't know if I buy this theory simply because it just seems too hokey for Tom. But also: Courtnie has been through a lot in the last 6 months. She's had to deal with Tony and things apparently haven't gone her way, she and the rest of the Court have been thrown into this war of attrition against the Forest, and she's been heralded as the savior of the Court that ended the attacks from the Forest. That could drastically change anyone's personality, especially a temperamental 14/15 year old girl, even without some contrived personality-split-in-half thing. On the other hand, Sylvie is not in a place of power in the Court anymore. She's the Annie that has to reintegrate and had her entire support system ripped out from under her. So she's not going to be spitting fire and venom like Courtnie is largely because she feels vulnerable and alone, but also because if she swaggered into this situation with a temper like that, she'd likely have been imprisoned nearly immediately. Sylvie doesn't have the luxury to be haughty and petulant. Furthermore, if this theory was true, Sylvie would have been more reserved and sensitive and, dare I say it, easily manipulated in her conversation with Loup. But she had her anger, her fire, her sass while she was there all the way until the very last page. guess Im just a hokey kind of guy.... see my reply to Per. I think you are reading what I wrote as a more stark split than I meant it. I basically agree with what you're saying, you may be right. But the differences between Courtnie and Frannie/Sylvie are sometimes pretty stark. Nature (i.e, Loup split induced) or nurture (different timelines/experiences)? Could be either, even a bit of both. I just raise the "nature" side (if Loup can be called natural!) as an alternative theory. |
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