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Post by zimmyzims on Dec 5, 2018 8:01:38 GMT
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Post by zimmyzims on Dec 5, 2018 8:02:17 GMT
Oh hi.
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Post by madjack on Dec 5, 2018 8:04:37 GMT
Huh, so the touchscreen really is completely disembodied.
And can vaporise hostile plant life.
Edit: And control trains, duh.
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Post by imaginaryfriend on Dec 5, 2018 8:11:34 GMT
We got a FZZAP instead of a ZAAA but the shrapnel/lens flare/actionlines/whatever are similar to Court!Annie's laser beam/whip back in #2077 so I'm not sure if it was Kat or Court!Annie who cleared the obstruction. Nobody's shown looking out of the train so I'm guessing it was Kat and if that's the case Court!Annie's mojo is probably getting some assist from Kat's system in #2077. [Court!Annie can use the ether to view remotely so she should have been able to target the roots without physically looking.] |
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Post by jda on Dec 5, 2018 8:12:05 GMT
But, what about the shadow men?!? Did they die offscreen? did they die on the explosion? Are they passengers now?
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Post by saardvark on Dec 5, 2018 8:12:14 GMT
Huh, so the touchscreen really is completely disembodied. And can vaporise hostile plant life. Edit: And control trains, duh. yeah, and the so touchscreen was to zap the roots and free the train, It was not to track the evil shadow men. Strange. I am dumbfounded! Their ability to take over robots would seem to make then highly dangerous... would want to track and neutralize them! the reaction of Kat and Tony seems to indicate that this is a pretty ho-hum commonplace occurrence... just another minor train delay.... |
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Post by imaginaryfriend on Dec 5, 2018 8:16:02 GMT
But, what about the shadow men?!? Did they die offscreen? did they die on the explosion? Are they passengers now? I guess they split in/after the 2nd to last panel of the previous comic. |
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Post by arf on Dec 5, 2018 8:16:11 GMT
But, what about the shadow men?!? Did they die offscreen? did they die on the explosion? Are they passengers now? I think they got Fzzapped! |
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Post by madjack on Dec 5, 2018 8:18:44 GMT
Their ability to take over robots would seem to make then highly dangerous... I'm willing to bet this only happened to Robot because of the seed that was planted in him. Kat controlling the train makes me wonder if this isn't a Court system she's rolled her own interface for or networked her computer with. |
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Post by imaginaryfriend on Dec 5, 2018 8:25:01 GMT
yeah, and the so touchscreen was to zap the roots and free the train, It was not to track the evil shadow men. Strange. I am dumbfounded! Their ability to take over robots would seem to make then highly dangerous... would want to track and neutralize them! What's odd is that the red highlights on the screen in the previous comic were on the floor or below it in the lead section. The roots were attacking several sections back. So the highlights were just the drive magnets, I guess, which were failing to drive the train at the time. Also: Not sure Shadow Men can commandeer just any old machine or robot. It may have to get a root inside it first. [partly ninja'd] |
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Post by speedwell on Dec 5, 2018 8:45:21 GMT
It may just be because I'm pre-coffee and starting work this morning (I work from home), but Anthony looks exactly like me when I was commuting for real instead of from virtual. Half to fully asleep on the train no matter what mayhem was going on around me.
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Post by shadow3 on Dec 5, 2018 9:00:22 GMT
RENARD: "You're a wizard, Kat."
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Post by theonethatgotaway on Dec 5, 2018 9:41:57 GMT
Me thinks the lady doth NOT PROTEST ENOUGH!
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Post by Corvo on Dec 5, 2018 9:51:51 GMT
I understand it was Annie who FZZAPed the roots, and Kat just started the train, no?
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Post by antiyonder on Dec 5, 2018 9:59:10 GMT
Alternatively how I view this page playing out (in the style of say a bonus page and a certain classic episode of an animated sitcom),
Leonard Nimoy: My job here is done.
Forest Annie: What do you mean? You didn't do anything.
Leonard Nimoy: (chuckles) Didn't I? (gets "beamed" away, a la "Star Trek")
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Post by Per on Dec 5, 2018 10:56:07 GMT
(Tony thinking) "Whether or not her story checks out, this person cannot possibly be integrated into our hypermodern society, separated from her own by a gulf of more months than can be counted on one hand. The cultural and technological gap is just too great. Perhaps it would be kindest to relocate her to one of the agricultural areas, to allow her to live out her days in a semblance of usefulness."
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Post by Jelly Jellybean on Dec 5, 2018 13:34:12 GMT
Their ability to take over robots would seem to make then highly dangerous... I'm willing to bet this only happened to Robot because of the seed that was planted in him. Kat controlling the train makes me wonder if this isn't a Court system she's rolled her own interface for or networked her computer with. After the Forest attacks, the Court transferred control of the Court's systems to Kat. The Court knew nothing of the Mecha Angel, but they soon would. *cue the Terminator music* |
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Post by madjack on Dec 5, 2018 14:07:29 GMT
After the Forest attacks, the Court transferred control of the Court's systems to Kat. The Court knew nothing of the Mecha Angel, but they soon would. *cue the Terminator music* Nononono, that track has to be saved for the day Jones finally cuts loose. The Mechagoddess Awakening feels like it should be something from Deus Ex. Followed by Hell March. With robots. |
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Post by keef on Dec 5, 2018 14:23:52 GMT
zimmyzims Hey, hi. Huh, so the touchscreen really is completely disembodied. And can vaporise hostile plant life. Edit: And control trains, duh. [spec]Mwah, it's just an interface to Kat's computer, I guess. And her computer is hooked up to the Court's systems now.[/spec] But, what about the shadow men?!? Did they die offscreen? did they die on the explosion? Are they passengers now? I don't see the problem. Shadow 2's parents lived in the court since their bound dog was killed by Mr. Thorn. Without a dog they are (probably) mostly harmless. Court!Annie can use the ether to view remotely so she should have been able to target the roots without physically looking. For the moment I assume that was Kat's doing.
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Post by The Anarch on Dec 5, 2018 14:49:26 GMT
Sure Annie, it seems bad now, but just remember that plus ça change . . .
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Post by philman on Dec 5, 2018 16:21:22 GMT
But, what about the shadow men?!? Did they die offscreen? did they die on the explosion? Are they passengers now? You WILL ride this train and you WILL enjoy it! |
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Post by saardvark on Dec 5, 2018 16:43:59 GMT
zimmyzims Hey, hi. Huh, so the touchscreen really is completely disembodied. And can vaporise hostile plant life. Edit: And control trains, duh. [spec]Mwah, it's just an interface to Kat's computer, I guess. And her computer is hooked up to the Court's systems now.[/spec] But, what about the shadow men?!? Did they die offscreen? did they die on the explosion? Are they passengers now? I don't see the problem. Shadow 2's parents lived in the court since their bound dog was killed by Mr. Thorn. Without a dog they are (probably) mostly harmless. Yeah, I was thinking its like the remote terminals linked to Anja's slightly ether-court hybrid computer. Shadow 2's parents look to be friendly-ish, or at least they don't have the malevolent expressions of the shadow which possessed S13 (Robot) www.gunnerkrigg.com/?p=117 or that we see in panel 4 recently www.gunnerkrigg.com/?p=2078on the other hand, the shadow men slipping away in panel 5 don't have the "evil eyes" look either, so... I dunno, maybe there are two groups of shadow men, some that actively dislike the Court and would work against it, and others more neutral or even potentially friendly. |
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Post by tustin2121 on Dec 5, 2018 16:45:48 GMT
Can I just say that I would love to have a holographic computer screen I can summon anytime I want to hover in front of me and type on, and then dismiss with a wave of the hand? Kat is living the dream.
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Post by The Anarch on Dec 5, 2018 17:17:35 GMT
But, what about the shadow men?!? Did they die offscreen? did they die on the explosion? Are they passengers now? You WILL ride this train and you WILL enjoy it! |
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Post by jda on Dec 5, 2018 17:21:41 GMT
zimmyzims Hey, hi. But, what about the shadow men?!? Did they die offscreen? did they die on the explosion? Are they passengers now? I don't see the problem. Shadow 2's parents lived in the court since their bound dog was killed by Mr. Thorn. Without a dog they are (probably) mostly harmless. From the very beginning of the comic, it was an axiom that they are unable to exist without shade, Also, we've seen them die the very moment they are caught in the light. In that very Ties page, it is only shown 1 of them to reach saffety, before the bound dog dissapears. Also, all the Court AND the scoobygang know that Those Shadow men are hostile and that they can attack via Bound dogs, or possesed Robots, at least. That is why I ask if they are dead, caught in the recesses of the the train seats, or what. Or, from some way or another, have they achieved self permanence, a la Shadow 2? |
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Post by keef on Dec 6, 2018 12:23:51 GMT
It was confirmed that this were Shadow 2's parents. What surprised me, looking for that link on Chrysoprax, was another answer; those shadows were actually using the dogs attempting to leave the court. I'd always assumed it was some kind of half-arsed attack on the court. I'm sure that if they were anywhere near the burning of those roots they are very much dead (and if GKC trains are anything like some trains I've been on, and they are hiding in those seats, they wish they were dead  ). I guess possession of robots is only possible for them if there is a living piece of Gillity wood in the robot.
But in the new situation they may well escape to the "underground tree" and wait till a new dog is grown. I doubt that. Jones said that Shadow 2 was unique, so it had never happened before, so chances that it happens again (without use of the giggleblade) are slim. (also: great new avatar jda)
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Post by saardvark on Dec 6, 2018 13:12:03 GMT
I guess possession of robots is only possible for them if there is a living piece of Gillity wood in the robot.
But in the new situation they may well escape to the "underground tree" and wait till a new dog is grown.
(also: great new avatar jda)
A reasonable speculation, but we don't really know yet if robot possession is an intrinsic ability or conferred by the Ys-seed grown wood-arm. But if the latter, as you suggest, the two trees which erupted in the Court are also both seed-grown. So they too might then be able to give possession abilities to shadow men... so I am still puzzled why court!Annie and Kat weren't more concerned with them escaping. |
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Post by tustin2121 on Dec 6, 2018 17:34:49 GMT
I'm sure that if they were anywhere near the burning of those roots they are very much dead (and if GKC trains are anything like some trains I've been on, and they are hiding in those seats, they wish they were dead ). Considering that one of the defining features of the Court is how very unpopulated it is, and how in every instance we've seen a character use the train (barring the evac chapter), they've been the only people on it, I imagine that the trains in the court are actually jarringly clean, free from the usual build up of grime from heavy every day use. Maybe filled with dust and spiderwebs, but not what you'd see on a normal city subway system. Also, that's the first I'd heard of any of those answers Tom gave about the shadow people, and it fascinates me. So does that mean Shadow2 is an orphan then? Was he living with his relatives then? Is that why his family hates how he doesn't hate humans, because they killed his parents? EDIT: Wait, actually, is that the reason why Shadow2 is in the court in the first place at the start of the comic? Was he born in the court? Is that why he loves humans? Had he been to the forest before Annie got him there? |
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Post by imaginaryfriend on Dec 6, 2018 18:26:00 GMT
Wait, actually, is that the reason why Shadow2 is in the court in the first place at the start of the comic? Was he born in the court? Is that why he loves humans? Had he been to the forest before Annie got him there? It's been formsprung that Shadow II was born in the Court. They weren't attacking the Court as such, they were coming from the forest to rescue Shadow Men who had been left there. Shadow II was not one of the Shadow Men who appeared in Ch. 22 (Ties) but is their child/descendant. Though formspring is long gone Chrysoprax archived the answers; you can search them here. There have also been several Questions to Tom threads on the forum (one of which was changed to "questions to whoever feels like answering") but I've had some problems with the proboards search engine. |
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Post by ctso74 on Dec 7, 2018 5:56:21 GMT
But, what about the shadow men?!? Did they die offscreen? did they die on the explosion? Are they passengers now? I'm guessing, Friday's comic will be Eggs and Parley facing the audience, wearing sunglasses and with the two shadows behind them. Suddenly, the shadows exploded in a ball of flame, without Eggs or Parley turning or flinching. As hot smoke rises, where the shadows used to be, Parley points her thumb and says "No ticket." The Court Rail Pass Program is serious business. |
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