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Post by faiiry on Nov 19, 2018 8:03:12 GMT
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Post by kaivetieno on Nov 19, 2018 8:17:26 GMT
So...
Annies, are you okay?
I really think that this will ends up with one Annie absorbed by the other.
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fjodorii
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Post by fjodorii on Nov 19, 2018 8:20:07 GMT
"You could be the fake one"
Why doesn't Court-Annie say "You ARE the fake one!?"
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Post by rafk on Nov 19, 2018 8:24:37 GMT
Any chance they will combine into one Annie the moment they touch?
Any chance this is a parallel dimension and they are both real but one doesn't belong?
Any chance that Tony being simultaneously on Annie's side and against Annie will break the space time continuum?
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Post by craftims on Nov 19, 2018 8:34:14 GMT
Well, that went about as expected.
I'm interested to see how Reynard reacts to all this.
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Post by theonethatgotaway on Nov 19, 2018 8:49:07 GMT
Kat: "There's a quick way to solve this. Annies, tell me how you feel about your father!"
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Post by arf on Nov 19, 2018 9:12:39 GMT
svn merge Annie.jpg Forest Court
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madragoran
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Post by madragoran on Nov 19, 2018 9:31:09 GMT
Well... if narrative tradition holds true, the person we have been following around is the one and true Annie. The other one is an impostor. And a soon to be very very crispy impostor if we are to judge by "our" Annie's looks when dad put his hand on her, the impostor's, shoulder. As much as merging would sound fan, I think the impostor is a fairy or a sprite of some kind given the appearance of Annie. Which of course if true begs the question where is Rey all this time (Rey can see in the ether). But on the other, other hand. How was Annie replicated? Does the replica know it's a replica? And if it knows, is it an agent? Are we all who we think we are or are we all impostors?!!
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Post by Druplesnubb on Nov 19, 2018 9:42:46 GMT
Well... if narrative tradition holds true, the person we have been following around is the one and true Annie. Wrong. There's a long and storied tradition in fiction of revealing that the main character isn't who they think they are. Especially in mystery-laden plots like this one. |
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Post by imaginaryfriend on Nov 19, 2018 10:48:34 GMT
I hope one of them ends up being fake, because I don't think I can handle a comic with two real Annies... Nah it's gonna be awesome. It's a forceful approach but having a character looking at herself interacting with all the other people in her life from the outside is a quick shortcut for character development. And until they mature the Antimonies will hang around getting on each other's nerves constantly. "You could be the fake one" Why doesn't Court-Annie say "You ARE the fake one!?" Either, both or neither could be fake. I think Court!Annie said it that way because she's six months more mature than Forest!Annie. How was Annie replicated? Does the replica know it's a replica? And if it knows, is it an agent? We probably won't know for sure until the mess (and probably one Antimony) starts to unravel but I don't think Court!Antimony could be an agent, at least not in the sense of one following a mission other than to be/replace Antimony. She's had lots of time to obtain Coyote's gifts and if she was doing so there wouldn't be a need to send another Antimony for them. Well... if narrative tradition holds true, the person we have been following around is the one and true Annie. Wrong. There's a long and storied tradition in fiction of revealing that the main character isn't who they think they are. Especially in mystery-laden plots like this one. There's a history in this comic of the POV following around the fake Antimony. That said, if Forest!Annie is a fake (or both are fake) the previous chapter ( Ch. 68) would have to contain very little but false memories, misdirection and junk. |
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Post by Corvo on Nov 19, 2018 11:20:10 GMT
Well... if narrative tradition holds true, the person we have been following around is the one and true Annie. Wrong. There's a long and storied tradition in fiction of revealing that the main character isn't who they think they are. Especially in mystery-laden plots like this one. |
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Post by philman on Nov 19, 2018 11:22:02 GMT
I'm the complete opposite. Two real Annies would be a really interesting scenario, especially when one of them has an extra 6 months of relationships with their father, friends, etc. Will the forest Annie really feel like the real one any more? |
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Post by freedomgeek on Nov 19, 2018 11:43:06 GMT
There are two types of people in the world, those who would get along with their clones and those who would not. It appears Annie is in the latter category.
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Post by imaginaryfriend on Nov 19, 2018 12:31:41 GMT
Oh, one other thing: Court!Annie's declaration in panel #3 that she stopped the attack would seem to confirm the speculation that Antimony took/was given credit for saving the Court from "Loup" which probably means that Antimony's reputation with the Court has been repaired, if not completely then at least to some extent.
Or was repaired, until Forest!Annie appeared.
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Post by todd on Nov 19, 2018 12:50:00 GMT
This page continues to make me wonder if Loup thought out the long-term consequences of his trick; it certainly seems to have sabotaged Annie's obtaining the bone and water. (It's probably even driven the errand out of her thoughts entirely.)
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Post by csj on Nov 19, 2018 13:07:11 GMT
or you could get someone who knows what they're doing to verify (but I can understand not wanting to touch the bats) This is surprisingly non-messy though. Imagine if annie wasn't allowed to leave because annie did the thing she promised before annie could leave to do the thing she promised, or if annie was teleported instead of annie or if she has just acquired the ability to 'divide' her flame and will flood the world with an army of Anniesthe possibilities are (temporally and physically) endless |
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Post by ctso74 on Nov 19, 2018 14:44:11 GMT
I'm the complete opposite. Two real Annies would be a really interesting scenario, especially when one of them has an extra 6 months of relationships with their father, friends, etc. Will the forest Annie really feel like the real one any more? There are a lot of interesting stories to do with two Annies. Plus, when Kat's Robo-Ether Singularity occurs, one Annie can take the Court's side while the other takes the Forest's side. Probably not going to happen, but it would still be interesting to have them debate both POVs to essentially themselves. |
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Post by zaferion on Nov 19, 2018 14:58:46 GMT
There are two types of people in the world, those who would get along with their clones and those who would not. It appears Annie is in the latter category. Annie has always struggled to establish her identity and spent so long reminding the adults that she's her own person and not a copy of her mom, so it's no surprise that she would bristle at a literal copy of herself. Especially when that copy is getting physical affection/affirmation from Tony. |
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Post by todd on Nov 19, 2018 15:05:05 GMT
The different possibilities:
BOTH ANNIES ARE FAKE: Far too complicated, and raises the question of where the real Annie is. (Unless it turns out that Annie had never existed in the comic, which would also be far too complicated, especially at this stage in the story.)
THE LONG-HAIRED VERSION OF ANNIE IS FAKE: Also too complicated, in light of all the information/exposition Loup gave her in the preceding chapter. (Which would likewise create problems for the "Both Annies are fake" theory.)
THE SHORT-HAIRED VERSION OF ANNIE IS FAKE: Less of a practical difficulty for the story - if maybe too obvious. And as people have pointed out, it would be difficult for a fake to be living in the Court for six months undetected.
BOTH ANNIES ARE REAL: Operating on the theory that Loup somehow divided the character, though we don't know how as yet. Might be the simplest - if with the question of how long we're going to have two Annies about. (Which would most likely depend on the question of why Tom brought this element in, to begin with.)
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Post by netherdan on Nov 19, 2018 15:48:17 GMT
Kat: "There's a quick way to solve this. Annies, tell me how you feel about your father!" The one who struggles to answer and has a subsequent week long mental breakdown is the real one |
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Post by faiiry on Nov 19, 2018 16:07:25 GMT
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Post by bicarbonat on Nov 19, 2018 16:15:53 GMT
So... Annies, are you okay? They were indeed struck by...a smooth criminal. [gathers bindle & leaves town in shame] |
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Post by tustin2121 on Nov 19, 2018 16:32:17 GMT
BOTH ANNIES ARE REAL: Operating on the theory that Loup somehow divided the character, though we don't know how as yet. Well, that's one way to solve the crisis of how Annie's line reproduces without the mother dying after the first child: just have a clone created by Coyote/Loup! Semi-related: I wonder what would happen if any part-fire-elemental had twins... |
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Post by The Anarch on Nov 19, 2018 16:35:09 GMT
Can we get two Joneses as well?
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Post by fia on Nov 19, 2018 17:51:31 GMT
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Post by Runningflame on Nov 19, 2018 18:36:16 GMT
There are two types of people in the world, those who would get along with their clones and those who would not. It appears Annie is in the latter category. Annie has always struggled to establish her identity and spent so long reminding the adults that she's her own person and not a copy of her mom, so it's no surprise that she would bristle at a literal copy of herself. Especially when that copy is getting physical affection/affirmation from Tony. THIS. So much this. |
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Post by csj on Nov 19, 2018 19:19:50 GMT
There are two types of people in the world, those who would get along with their clones and those who would not. It appears Annie is in the latter category. There are four kinds of people |
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Post by pyradonis on Nov 19, 2018 19:51:00 GMT
Oh, one other thing: Court!Annie's declaration in panel #3 that she stopped the attack would seem to confirm the speculation that Antimony took/was given credit for saving the Court from "Loup" which probably means that Antimony's reputation with the Court has been repaired, if not completely then at least to some extent. Or was repaired, until Forest!Annie appeared. On the other hand, the guards did not know who Annie was, so probably only a select few members of the Court know (or rather, believe they know) what is going on...
Actually, I expected Court!Annie to stay calmer, but it seems I had already subconsciously jumped onto the bandwagon of them having different parts of Annie's personality (one fiery, one calm). I am not 100% convinced this is NOT the case, but maybe the difference really is simply Court!Annie being six months older.
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Post by jda on Nov 19, 2018 20:08:56 GMT
Oh, one other thing: Court!Annie's declaration in panel #3 that she stopped the attack would seem to confirm the speculation that Antimony took/was given credit for saving the Court from "Loup" which probably means that Antimony's reputation with the Court has been repaired, if not completely then at least to some extent. Or was repaired, until Forest!Annie appeared. On the other hand, the guards did not know who Annie was, so probably only a select few members of the Court know (or rather, believe they know) what is going on...
Actually, I expected Court!Annie to stay calmer, but it seems I had already subconsciously jumped onto the bandwagon of them having different parts of Annie's personality (one fiery, one calm). I am not 100% convinced this is NOT the case, but maybe the difference really is simply Court!Annie being six months older.
Well, I've always thought of doppelgangers as recently born, so to speak. Thus,I'm this case Court!Annie IS 6 months old in total. |
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Post by machinedragon on Nov 19, 2018 21:29:25 GMT
On the other hand, the guards did not know who Annie was, so probably only a select few members of the Court know (or rather, believe they know) what is going on...
Actually, I expected Court!Annie to stay calmer, but it seems I had already subconsciously jumped onto the bandwagon of them having different parts of Annie's personality (one fiery, one calm). I am not 100% convinced this is NOT the case, but maybe the difference really is simply Court!Annie being six months older.
Well, I've always thought of doppelgangers as recently born, so to speak. Thus,I'm this case Court!Annie IS 6 months old in total. Well, that really depends on the production of the doppelganger, really. If it was more like some sort of weird quantum superposition divergence situation, both Annies would be equal in age- one just has 6 months more life experience than the other. The dividing factor being in one Loup sent Annie right back to the court, and in the other Loup let Annie converse with him from within his weird time bubble thing. |
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