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Post by imaginaryfriend on Oct 31, 2018 7:04:32 GMT
It would kinda suck if she couldn't get back through the force-field because of etheric contamination or whatever. And it would slow down the plot.
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Post by Angry Individual on Oct 31, 2018 7:45:52 GMT
Honestly, this dashes away some theories about what happened.
Any that include Annie "siding" with the forest is now moot. Otherwise, they wouldn't let her in.
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Post by madjack on Oct 31, 2018 7:50:58 GMT
Honestly, this dashes away some theories about what happened. Any that include Annie "siding" with the forest is now moot. Otherwise, they wouldn't let her in. That implies that there's some form of control over the shield. The way it reads from Kat's testing it looks like a simplistic " anything that goes out can come back in" deal. Edit: Although from Annie's reaction, it's probably fair to say they didn't know enough about it, at least when she left, to be certain of that.
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Post by csj on Oct 31, 2018 7:56:35 GMT
somewhere, somehow, a tic-toc is watching a girl take two weeks to walk three steps into the Court due to magic time dilation
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Post by csj on Oct 31, 2018 8:02:33 GMT
Honestly, this dashes away some theories about what happened. Any that include Annie "siding" with the forest is now moot. Otherwise, they wouldn't let her in. she's as human as she was when she left. Also, computers are dumb and the Court was evacuated. Janet's daddy probably thinks differently.
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Post by arf on Oct 31, 2018 8:14:40 GMT
As there was no "Dead Jones Bounce" on re-entry, it doesn't surprise me that the shield lets Annie in as well (I can understand the sigh of relief, though!)
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Post by shadow3 on Oct 31, 2018 10:29:38 GMT
What if this is all an illusion and Annie is still in the Forest?
A test to see whether she'll keep her word or to see the layout of Gunnerkrigg Court's defenses through Annie's memories?
It's all a dream!
There is no spoon!
Resistance is futile!
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Post by faiiry on Oct 31, 2018 10:41:12 GMT
What if this is all an illusion and Annie is still in the Forest? A test to see whether she'll keep her word or to see the layout of Gunnerkrigg Court's defenses through Annie's memories? It's all a dream! There is no spoon! Resistance is futile! If that happened it would be a massive copout and I think a lot of readers would be moderately-to-righteously annoyed.
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Post by todd on Oct 31, 2018 12:31:45 GMT
If that happened it would be a massive copout and I think a lot of readers would be moderately-to-righteously annoyed. I think so as well, and hope that Tom's not going to take that road (though I have the uneasy suspicion there'd be a small but vocal minority who would applaud the twist as ingenious and brilliant).
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Post by Per on Oct 31, 2018 15:25:08 GMT
What if this is all an illusion and Annie is still in the Forest? A test to see whether she'll keep her word or to see the layout of Gunnerkrigg Court's defenses through Annie's memories? It's all a dream! There is no spoon! Resistance is futile! Annie never left: a) Doctor Disaster's simulation(s) b) Zimmingham (multiple instances) c) bone needle coma d) the ether e) flipping out in The Tree f) some flashback or other In actual reality 14 levels up, the others are making pancakes.
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Post by philman on Oct 31, 2018 15:56:02 GMT
INDIVIDUAL CROSSING THE FORCE FIELD BARRIER DETECTED! EMERGENCY DEFENCE FORCE INITIATED!
"Helllooooooo!"
"My god, it's boxbots, fousends of 'em! Loup never told us about this!"
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Post by tustin2121 on Oct 31, 2018 16:00:14 GMT
The way this page reads, it seems like she didn't travel very far to get to the force field. So does that mean the force field is still right where it was when she left, near the edge of (what used to be) the ravine, and thus she still has to travel a couple miles though rubble to where the nearest intact court buildings are? Or did she travel further than the page implies and the force field has traveled backwards with the rest of the court edge? Furthermore, if the force field is still intact near the ravine edge, does that mean the court razed the buildings between the force field and where the intact buildings are? Or did Loup get around the force field after all and left it up for giggles? EDIT: Wait, never mind. I looked at the last page of Neither again, and it looks like Loup closed the couple-mile gap between the forest and the court when he slammed the ravine shut...
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Post by ctso74 on Oct 31, 2018 17:15:20 GMT
What if this is all an illusion and Annie is still in the Forest? A test to see whether she'll keep her word or to see the layout of Gunnerkrigg Court's defenses through Annie's memories? It's all a dream! There is no spoon! Resistance is futile! And the real Court's fine, because Loup just made her hair grow faster, instead of speeding up time. Ew. That would be a trick, but I wouldn't like it much. If the Court is unaware of Jones' "trip", they might not be too worried about their absences; just a little worried. However, if Jones has returned or made contact, many will be more than a little worried. Kat would be beside herself, and Tony(despite his many flaws) might be suicidal, since he "okayed" her leaving.
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Post by bicarbonat on Oct 31, 2018 17:49:01 GMT
As there was no "Dead Jones Bounce" on re-entry, it doesn't surprise me that the shield lets Annie in as well (I can understand the sigh of relief, though!) Goodbye, dabbing - hello, "Dead Jones Bounce"
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Post by bicarbonat on Oct 31, 2018 17:53:07 GMT
What if this is all an illusion and Annie is still in the Forest? A test to see whether she'll keep her word or to see the layout of Gunnerkrigg Court's defenses through Annie's memories? It's all a dream! There is no spoon! Resistance is futile! And the real Court's fine, because Loup just made her hair grow faster, instead of speeding up time. Ew. That would be a trick, but I wouldn't like it much. If the Court is unaware of Jones' "trip", they might not be too worried about their absences; just a little worried. However, if Jones has returned or made contact, many will be more than a little worried. Kat would be beside herself, and Tony(despite his many flaws) might be suicidal, since he "okayed" her leaving. If it's the latter, I wouldn't be surprised if Tony reacts stoically upon first seeing his daughter back safe, and then has a tightly-controlled breakdown - especially since I'm sure he was pleased (in his own way) that she'd decided to live with him.
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Post by keef on Oct 31, 2018 22:32:43 GMT
Tom Siddell has a knack for choosing chapter titles that keep us on edge. What if this is all an illusion and Annie is still in the Forest? A test to see whether she'll keep her word That does sound like the kind of trick a paranoid madman would play. If that happened it would be a massive copout and I think a lot of readers would be moderately-to-righteously annoyed. "It was all a dream" is usually awful yeah, but if it is a trick (consistent with Loup's character) and Annie is aware of it and playing along (for example) , it would be interesting.
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Post by pyradonis on Nov 1, 2018 0:09:57 GMT
What if this is all an illusion and Annie is still in the Forest? A test to see whether she'll keep her word or to see the layout of Gunnerkrigg Court's defenses through Annie's memories? It's all a dream! There is no spoon! Resistance is futile! Annie never left: a) Doctor Disaster's simulation(s) b) Zimmingham (multiple instances) c) bone needle coma d) the ether e) flipping out in The Tree f) some flashback or other In actual reality 14 levels up, the others are making pancakes.
What are you talking about? Everybody knows Annie died after she fell off the bridge.
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Post by Per on Nov 1, 2018 0:35:33 GMT
What are you talking about? Everybody knows Annie died after she fell off the bridge. And that's nested inside falling into a coma after cracking her skull in chapter 3. On the bright side, if you go up enough levels Surma may still be alive at Good Hope, listening to Annie murmuring in her sleep about meeting odd personages in the hallways.
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Post by madjack on Nov 1, 2018 1:15:35 GMT
What are you talking about? Everybody knows Annie died after she fell off the bridge. And that's nested inside falling into a coma after cracking her skull in chapter 3. Pfft, the final chapter will reveal she really died in a [vehicle] crash on the way to the Court and it's all just been a dying dream, totally calling it now.
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Post by faiiry on Nov 1, 2018 3:50:31 GMT
"It was all a dream" is usually awful yeah, but if it is a trick (consistent with Loup's character) and Annie is aware of it and playing along (for example) , it would be interesting. I don't tend to agree. "It was just a dream" plotlines are so played out at this point that it's literally impossible for them to be interesting to me.
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Post by csj on Nov 1, 2018 4:46:02 GMT
thank you everyone for reminding me that the entirety of GKC takes place inside tom's snowglobe
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Post by pyradonis on Nov 1, 2018 14:14:37 GMT
"It was all a dream" is usually awful yeah, but if it is a trick (consistent with Loup's character) and Annie is aware of it and playing along (for example) , it would be interesting. I don't tend to agree. "It was just a dream" plotlines are so played out at this point that it's literally impossible for them to be interesting to me. I think what keef suggests is not "It was all just a dream", but instead Annie realizing right away that she is in an illusion and playing the player instead.
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Post by faiiry on Nov 1, 2018 16:01:49 GMT
I don't tend to agree. "It was just a dream" plotlines are so played out at this point that it's literally impossible for them to be interesting to me. I think what keef suggests is not "It was all just a dream", but instead Annie realizing right away that she is in an illusion and playing the player instead. Yeah, I knew what keef meant and I still have no interest in this trope no matter how it’s twisted.
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