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Post by faiiry on Oct 10, 2018 7:00:38 GMT
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Post by theonethatgotaway on Oct 10, 2018 7:07:39 GMT
Oh, oh no. So there has been wanton destruction to the Court... I wonder how did that, the Court itself, Loup in some way, or the Forest residents...
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Post by faiiry on Oct 10, 2018 7:10:04 GMT
Side note: if anybody could perform some photoshop wizardry on panel 1 to remove the speech bubble, it would make an awesome avatar.
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Post by keef on Oct 10, 2018 7:12:13 GMT
So, the grass was really greener on the other side.
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Post by jda on Oct 10, 2018 7:18:11 GMT
So, the grass was really greener on the other side.   |
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Post by madjack on Oct 10, 2018 7:18:11 GMT
I'm really keen for the next treatise after this chapter, Friday can't come soon enough.
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Post by aline on Oct 10, 2018 7:18:35 GMT
What a chapter.
I'm torn: on one hand, Loup is dangerous and things are quite bleak.
On the other hand... I really enjoy watching Annie stand her ground. And I love that her hair is long again.
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Post by rafk on Oct 10, 2018 8:42:52 GMT
And WHAM there it is. One last reveal.
There's no way Annie is putting herself back in Loup's power again without a plan to do him in and free Ysengrin from within him.
Does Loup genuinely believe Annie will do his bidding, though, or will he expect defiance?
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Post by rafk on Oct 10, 2018 8:43:46 GMT
I'm really keen for the next treatise after this chapter, Friday can't come soon enough. I'll be especially interested to see if we see a significantly different post time skip Kat in it. |
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Post by csj on Oct 10, 2018 10:41:57 GMT
cue airhorns
wait those aren't airhorns
they're air raid sirens
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Post by todd on Oct 10, 2018 12:38:12 GMT
I'm really keen for the next treatise after this chapter, Friday can't come soon enough. I don't think the treatise will immediately follow this chapter (though I'd thought for a while that this would be the last chapter in the book). The treatise page always comes on Wednesday, so that Friday's page can show Tea announcing the next two week break. Therefore, there'll have to be at least one more chapter, whose final "regular page" would come on Monday. |
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Post by madjack on Oct 10, 2018 12:46:55 GMT
I'm really keen for the next treatise after this chapter, Friday can't come soon enough. I don't think the treatise will immediately follow this chapter (though I'd thought for a while that this would be the last chapter in the book). The treatise page always comes on Wednesday, so that Friday's page can show Tea announcing the next two week break. Therefore, there'll have to be at least one more chapter, whose final "regular page" would come on Monday. I just went back and checked the ends of every book... and they don't always finish on a Wednesday, but Tom always denotes that the 'book ends here' in the comment. I thought this would be it for this book too, but yeah it looks like there is one more. Now I'm even more anxious for what is coming up. |
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Post by bicarbonat on Oct 10, 2018 14:38:50 GMT
The disarray reminds me of a thought I had a page or two back: I wonder where Jones landed, and what (or who) she might have damaged on impact. Seems like the new decor theme for the Court is "shambles."
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Post by Per on Oct 10, 2018 15:01:20 GMT
Tom wrote in August: "I'm coming up to another two week break soon as Book 7 will be ending after this chapter."
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Post by netherdan on Oct 10, 2018 15:04:37 GMT
The disarray reminds me of a thought I had a page or two back: I wonder where Jones landed, and what (or who) she might have damaged on impact. Seems like the new decor theme for the Court is "shambles." I thought Jones' impact would be much more destructive, that's why... ...I thought her fall was responsible for the "new courtyard" of the Court Something like this but less powerful: |
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Post by todd on Oct 10, 2018 15:48:41 GMT
Tom wrote in August: "I'm coming up to another two week break soon as Book 7 will be ending after this chapter." But that raises the question of how he'll fit both the Treatise Page and Tea's announcement of the two-week break on Friday's page. |
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Post by todd on Oct 10, 2018 15:53:48 GMT
The best I can say about Loup's behavior is that the Court and its experiments (as he pointed out a few pages earlier) are threatening the Forest, which he's currently the ruler of and which he should therefore be protecting. On the other hand:
1. He's made no attempt at diplomacy, to alert the Court leaders to the harm they're causing to Gilltie Wood, thereby allowing them the opportunity to change that behavior (whether by calling off their experiments or at least installing "etheric pollution controls" on the power plant). (Nor have any of the other forest-folk, for that matter, before him.)
2. He's frozen the forest in time rather than bothering to look after it properly, indicating that he's not so concerned about its well-being after all.
3. His overall behavior has suggested that his real motive in all of this is fun and entertainment. Even if the Court wasn't harming the Forest, he'd find some other pretext to attack it, all for his amusement.
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Post by bedinsis on Oct 10, 2018 16:08:21 GMT
That smile in the last panel is the smile that says, "ohoho, you tease" without knowing that the previous statement was "I am not joking with you or playing with you; I am upset with you."
So the Questions for the Characters should start publication soon, right?
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Post by Eve Swann on Oct 10, 2018 17:10:22 GMT
That smile in the last panel is the smile that says, "ohoho, you tease" without knowing that the previous statement was "I am not joking with you or playing with you; I am upset with you." I don't think Loup takes anything Annie says seriously. She's his little pet and when she growls, it's cute. |
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Post by blazingstar on Oct 10, 2018 17:36:14 GMT
That smile in the last panel is the smile that says, "ohoho, you tease" without knowing that the previous statement was "I am not joking with you or playing with you; I am upset with you." I don't think Loup takes anything Annie says seriously. She's his little pet and when she growls, it's cute. Agreed on all counts. I cannot describe the levels of creeped-out I have been experiencing in watching Annie and Loup's interactions so far. |
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Post by faiiry on Oct 10, 2018 18:03:40 GMT
So the Questions for the Characters should start publication soon, right? Oh, I forgot all about that! Now I'm excited for it. There were tons of questions better than mine, but in the grand scheme of things, it would be awesome to have my question chosen and be a small part of GKC history. I think we probably all feel the same way. |
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Post by Runningflame on Oct 10, 2018 18:07:26 GMT
Tom wrote in August: "I'm coming up to another two week break soon as Book 7 will be ending after this chapter." But that raises the question of how he'll fit both the Treatise Page and Tea's announcement of the two-week break on Friday's page. Didn't Tom say somewhere that he doesn't pay attention to what day each page will come out? Which makes sense: better to tell the story the way you want than to add pages (or chapters!) to make everything line up just so. |
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Post by hp on Oct 10, 2018 18:32:54 GMT
And WHAM there it is. One last reveal. There's no way Annie is putting herself back in Loup's power again without a plan to do him in and free Ysengrin from within him. Does Loup genuinely believe Annie will do his bidding, though, or will he expect defiance? Coyote is a prankster god. I'm still of the mind that everything that is happening — Ysengrim's actions, Loup's agenda, his erratic behaviour, the blind spots from his new personality, *and* Annie's and the Court's response to all that — was completely foretold by him. Even if Annie and her friends happen to devise some plan to undo Loup and thwart his plans, and there IS a war eventually won by the Court, my guess is in the end everything will have been completely within Coyote's Ultimate Batman Gambit. Maybe his plan was for the humans and the Woods to join forces and get free of his hold while learning to live together in good terms and finding balance between their nature and science sides... or something like that. Maybe it's his way of trying a new experience or prank (like when he died as a goose in the lake shore just to see what dying was like... This time he might be trying his hand at losing a conflict and not being omnipotent for a change, LAUGHING ON LINE). Maybe he's pushing his own human instrumentality project and trying to bring about the Third Impact |
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Post by agasa on Oct 10, 2018 19:37:47 GMT
I'm just happy that the Gunnerkrigg Minecraft Project is on indefinite hold, because we would have had to destroy the Court, and the river, both.
And that would've brought us unending sorrow.
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Post by todd on Oct 11, 2018 0:12:41 GMT
Even if Annie and her friends happen to devise some plan to undo Loup and thwart his plans, and there IS a war eventually won by the Court I suspect that the Court winning the war would not make a happy ending, in light of those mentions of what its project would do to the forest and its inhabitants (we don't know the details, but all the evidence points to something catastrophic). The best ending to the Court vs. Forest conflict, I'd say, would be the Court agreeing to give up its big project and stop meddling with the ether (maybe after seeing evidence of the harm that their experiments are causing - and indications that these would ultimately endanger the human world rather than just the etheric beings), dismantling the power plant, Omega Device, and the rest, and embarking on a new, much wiser goal. |
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Post by rafk on Oct 11, 2018 5:26:46 GMT
And WHAM there it is. One last reveal. There's no way Annie is putting herself back in Loup's power again without a plan to do him in and free Ysengrin from within him. Does Loup genuinely believe Annie will do his bidding, though, or will he expect defiance? Coyote is a prankster god. I'm still of the mind that everything that is happening — Ysengrim's actions, Loup's agenda, his erratic behaviour, the blind spots from his new personality, *and* Annie's and the Court's response to all that — was completely foretold by him. I agree completely. Said it earlier in the storyline. But that's Coyote, and he's definitely hidden the plan from Loup while setting it up. The question is then whether Coyote planned this through to the ending or whether he plotted it up to the key confrontation and was then interested to see how it would pan out spoiler free. |
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Post by pyradonis on Oct 11, 2018 10:59:30 GMT
And WHAM there it is. One last reveal. There's no way Annie is putting herself back in Loup's power again without a plan to do him in and free Ysengrin from within him. Does Loup genuinely believe Annie will do his bidding, though, or will he expect defiance? My guess is he expects defiance but in his arrogance thinks he is all-powerful and cannot be harmed. |
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Post by machiavelli33 on Oct 11, 2018 12:39:26 GMT
And WHAM there it is. One last reveal. There's no way Annie is putting herself back in Loup's power again without a plan to do him in and free Ysengrin from within him. Does Loup genuinely believe Annie will do his bidding, though, or will he expect defiance? My guess is he expects defiance but in his arrogance thinks he is all-powerful and cannot be harmed. I would agree. In fact, not only does he think he is all-powerful and invincible, he thinks he has it all figured out, and I'm certain he believes there is no way he CAN be defied - let alone harmed. He is sure he has everyone in the ultimate of catch-22's, where the only outcome must be his bidding done. It is Coyote's cunning melded with Ysengrin's pride - an arrogance that lends him the ultimate in confidence. But neither Coyote nor Ysengrin have seen the full extent of our protagonists' resourcefulness. As a particular ancestral dweller of a certain venerable house has repeatedly said, "Remind yourself that overconfidence is a slow and insidious killer." |
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