[2021] NO. YSENGRIN'S LOVE FOR YOU IS REAL AND UNALTERED.

[imaginaryfriend]

And don't you dare doubt it if you like living.

[blackmantha]

Well that's a relief.

[madjack]

Um.

[zimmyzims]

Is it just me or does somebody seem a bit mad?

[avurai]

Awwww.

How telling.

Yeah, so, getting vibes of “both personalities are in here at the same time and they’re both babbling”. Which is unexpected. Again, noteworthy use of present-tense.

[csj]

When you get so mad that even your bared teeth have teeth

[madjack]

Typo alert: "Ysengin"

[bicarbonat]

Tom: Stop trying to guess my inner workings!
Exeunt, pursued by a coyote-wolf

[foresterr]

Methinks the doggo doth protest too much.

Also, spiky eyeballs. METAL.

[jda]

IS

I rest my case.

[madjack]

Only thing worse than this kind of denial is what he'll do when he realises he was played.

[theonethatgotaway]

They're both still in there, Loup is schizophrenic... This just sounds to me as if Ysengrin suddenly got the upperhand and also does NOT want to believe he was manipulated by Coyote.

But even if the LOVE was real, the HATE was still stolen and eaten by Coyote.

I'm happy that now Annie knows that the love from Ysengrin towards her was real, and let's assume fatherly.

[Nepycros]

*Bad time whistle*

[gpvos]

Well, that's settled then.

[jda]

Aug 1, 2018 7:08:32 GMT csj said:

When you get so mad that even your bared teeth have teeth

Bro, u evr so.mad your Eyes grew fangs too?

[jda]

Aug 1, 2018 7:11:13 GMT madjack said:

Typo alert: "Ysengin"

Ys engine.
He is a biker, a chopper.

[csj]

I don't think it was the hate that was consumed. The memories were extracted after bouts of self-loathing and shame. Their removal seems more like a calculated process of improving his self-esteem and assertiveness to the point where he'd accept Coyote's gift.

[madragoran]

It is touching to be honest. In a mad and creepy way to be honest, but it is touching. Ysengrin loves Annie. He loves her whatever form/ shape/ creature. But his love, like her father's love and dare I say like her mum's love is tainted and weird and twisted. The only person who loves Annie in a healthy, giving way is Kat. Kat is the only one who doesn't want anything from Annie apart from Annie to love her back and be her friend. Everyone else wants something from Annie or wants Annie to be something.

[shadow3]

It's only real when Loup buys Annie a new pair of Manolo Blahniks, okay?

*hair flip*

[arf]

Methinks Annie isn't buying the "Loup" persona, Coyote.

[clover]

phase one of loup: sup dawg, we heard u like dawgs, so you can kill and eat a dawg, as a dawg, so you can dawg as you dawg, dawg

phase two of loup: sup dawg, we heard u like teeth, so we gave ur teeth some teeth so

[ST13R]

Maybe all he needs is a Snickers.

[Angry Individual]

Well, at least my interpretation of events are accurate.

Y-yay!

[zaferion]

Aug 1, 2018 7:07:58 GMT @dameofdiamonds said:

I love how Annie isn't scared on this page, it's like she's just angry that he had the audacity to yell at her.

Literally anyone else in this comic would have turned tail and ran or immediately attacked. Annie really is the only person that can handle this situation.

[zaferion]

Something tells me that Coyote and Ys aren't as flawlessly integrated as Loup would have us believe

[theonethatgotaway]

Aug 1, 2018 7:26:05 GMT jda said:

Aug 1, 2018 7:08:32 GMT csj said:

When you get so mad that even your bared teeth have teeth

Bro, u evr so.mad your Eyes grew fangs too?

Yo, u evr sooo mad ur skull pops out of your mouth with, like, an extra set of teeth?

[faiiry]

Whenever I admit my love to somebody, a skull pops out of my head and I tell them I'll rend their flesh if they don't believe me, too. As you do.

[freeformline]

I really like the use of the skull inside Loup's larger mouth. It very much smacks of Coyote, whereas the outer, angry head looks much more like Ysengrin. I look forward to seeing if Loup becomes more or less well-integrated over time.

[pyradonis]

This page is for those readers who thought Loup was solely Coyote with a new outfit.

[Nepycros]

Loopy is the amalgamation of two gods, and this could be interpreted as the weird coyo-wolf hybrid representing one key characteristic of combo gods: An attempt at traditionalist renditions of their personas while also stressing that they are a separate entity. Froute Loupe can't escape the fact the structure his identity is built on is a mix of factors, namely the emotional strife and desires of his separate components. If he were an actual offspring, his emotions and core values would be independent, formed by outside factors and a characteristic learning process. But this isn't an offspring, this is a new being borne out of supernatural components that transferred far more than expected into this being.

One particular case where I find a similarity would be in the manga Claymore. For lack of spoilerizing those who might want to read it (holy shit, do so, it's amazing), the death of two characters and the mixing of key components led to a new being, not quite an offspring, not quite the original. It possessed a will, but that will was not chosen by it or developed through natural means; it was solely an ember of the progenitors' wills, and acted as such.

Louie is not "in control" any more than Coyote was as far as he considers his origins. He believed that he was made a god by man's projection of divine right onto a mundane object to explain natural occurrences, and as such he was merely the physical manifestation of a process beyond human cognition at the time. Loupe is the determined physical result of having two incongruent wills smashed together under the machinations of a trickster deity who may or may not have predicted this outcome to high precision. He can no more erase his underlying will than he can go back in time and alter the conditions under which he was "born."

When the Hebrew pantheon had a mix of deities, and later scriptural edits renamed distinct gods into a single one (there is a case to be made that Yahweh, El Elyon, and El Shaddai are 3 distinct deities with separate dominions and roles in the polytheistic Hebrew culture of ancient times, conglomerated for socio-political reasons), the outcome was a being whose characteristics may not seem all that consistent in hindsight. But the stories themselves are written, and as such the personality described is "set in stone" for future development. In the world of Gunnerkrigg Court, gods have the least will, and are merely acting out the mad script written by humans who didn't know enough to see the world as it actually is.