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Post by wombat on Jun 18, 2018 7:15:36 GMT
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Post by zbeeblebrox on Jun 18, 2018 7:17:03 GMT
Damn it, we missed the superhero suit-up
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Post by Nepycros on Jun 18, 2018 7:18:52 GMT
Tony's showing far more faith in his daughter than the Court et al. This could affect his standing in the bureaucracy if it's shown he's trying to approach diplomacy through the more etherically-inclined fire elemental, than by the methodical and "dignified" human approach (which is no doubt fixated on suppressing the Forest rather than coexisting with it). I highly doubt Tony puts so much emphasis on peace as Annie might, but the fact remains that this is an apolitical move that will be seen as a highly political move if word of this spreads to the wrong ears.
But you go girl, show your dad that his trust is well-earned. No sarcasm, I think this development will have hugely beneficial impacts on Annie's psyche, for good or for ill. Few can say they stood on the brink of war and tried to mediate on such a confusing scale.
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Post by madjack on Jun 18, 2018 7:20:23 GMT
All this talk of death flags and Annie goes and gets a new hairstyle.
Uh oh.
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Post by flowsthead on Jun 18, 2018 7:23:43 GMT
Annie is rocking the Last of Us vibes.
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Post by keef on Jun 18, 2018 7:27:17 GMT
Although I'm surprised she's not wearing her boots. Speculation: Jones, for some reason, won't be able to go through the shield, so she'll end up going alone.
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Post by philman on Jun 18, 2018 7:28:52 GMT
Although I'm surprised she's not wearing her boots. Speculation: Jones, for some reason, won't be able to go through the shield, so she'll end up going alone. If that is true then it would be the very first thing we have seen that Jones cannot go through. And I hope she can, we haven't seen much of her for a while!
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Post by Corvo on Jun 18, 2018 7:34:58 GMT
Action-girl attire: Check. Forest setting: Check. Dangerous mission: Check. Needs more bow and arrows.
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Post by foresterr on Jun 18, 2018 7:35:23 GMT
If that is true then it would be the very first thing we have seen that Jones cannot go through. She might not be willing to completely break it to accomplish the passage Although if she's not allowed by default, that means the Court configured the barrier specifically like that and that's whole 'nother can of worms.
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Post by imaginaryfriend on Jun 18, 2018 7:55:13 GMT
Tony's showing far more faith in his daughter than the Court et al. This could affect his standing in the bureaucracy if it's shown he's trying to approach diplomacy through the more etherically-inclined fire elemental, than by the methodical and "dignified" human approach (which is no doubt fixated on suppressing the Forest rather than coexisting with it). I highly doubt Tony puts so much emphasis on peace as Annie might, but the fact remains that this is an apolitical move that will be seen as a highly political move if word of this spreads to the wrong ears. Provided that Antimony doesn't get injured or killed I'm not sure there's a downside for her and Anthony. She hasn't been given any authority to negotiate officially or any concessions that she could make in return for peace with Ysengoyote so no political capital is being spent and there's actually little risk; she can either win big (convince him to stop attacking or somehow defeat him) make a small gain (bring back a message or insight into his intentions) or the meet is a wash (gain nothing, lose nothing but time). And Ys likes her. She's not likely to get hurt. I suppose she could lie to him by promising something the Court wouldn't want and she doesn't have authority to give, or aggro him, but that would just end the lull early. He was already attacking about as hard as he could. Absolute worst case would be Antimony getting forcibly sequestered somewhere in the Wood so she's out of the way of another full-scale assault and even then she'd just lose some potential sympathy points. It could be politically risky in the sense that any change to the status quo is an implicit threat to the established order, therefore potentially seditious, but considering the crisis I think that would require Anthony doing something else to capitalize on the meeting. I think this development will have hugely beneficial impacts on Annie's psyche, for good or for ill. Few can say they stood on the brink of war and tried to mediate on such a confusing scale. Indeed. Antimony noticing that her father stands up for her/says positive things about her when she isn't around can give her insight into the situation as well as some self-esteem. Although I'm surprised she's not wearing her boots. I forget, do those have special abilities other than fitting? I don't remember any. That does not look too deep in the Wood. They don't appear to have deep treads, might be worth losing the ankle support for reduced weight (a pound or so per foot doesn't sound like a lot but it gets heavier the farther you go).
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Post by theonethatgotaway on Jun 18, 2018 8:04:17 GMT
That's what she said!!!.... Oh god, I'm so lonely All joking aside, shouldn't Annie first help repatriate the forest creatures stuck inside the bubble?
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Post by drdave on Jun 18, 2018 8:23:13 GMT
That's totally Ysengrins color style she's wearing. COINCIDENCE?
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Post by madjack on Jun 18, 2018 8:36:58 GMT
That's totally Ysengrins color style she's wearing. COINCIDENCE? Holy crap it is, did not even notice. Edit: I also just remembered that she has worn similar colours as the Forest Medium in the past. Perhaps those are the Forest Medium's 'official' colours, or she adopted Ys' look when she took his role?
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Post by aline on Jun 18, 2018 9:36:39 GMT
All joking aside, shouldn't Annie first help repatriate the forest creatures stuck inside the bubble? I think that's one of the things Annie intends to negotiate with Ysengrin. After all, he sent them there. So do I! I hope Eglamore is going to back off now. He has zero right to tell Annie "no" at this point, whether or not he likes it.
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Post by faiiry on Jun 18, 2018 10:35:34 GMT
Unless Eglamore and/or Tony are really slow talkers, Annie took like 1 minute flat to get changed and do her hair up, which is the most impressive feat of magic this comic has ever seen, especially when you consider that it takes like 30 seconds to run across her outrageously huge room.
Also, I don't even think Annie needs Parley if Jones is going to be around. Although we do not know if Jones' indestructibility holds up with gods.
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Post by noone3 on Jun 18, 2018 10:53:58 GMT
Whoa! Is that Annie's "Can I speak to the manager" haircut? Ysenyote is going down!
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Post by dramastix on Jun 18, 2018 11:12:35 GMT
ANNIE! YOU'RE BACK! Like for reals actually this time.
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Post by artezzatrigger on Jun 18, 2018 11:22:26 GMT
Action Annie is ready to go.
Not sure Ysengrin is going to dig that look as much as we do, though.
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Post by aline on Jun 18, 2018 11:48:24 GMT
Also, I don't even think Annie needs Parley if Jones is going to be around. Although we do not know if Jones' indestructibility holds up with gods. Sure, you've done your research, but you're sending Annie in with basically no preparation, no meaningful protection and no failsafe measures against two literal gods. For god's sake, Renard isn't even going with her. Were you kidnapped by aliens over the weekend? oO I think the one who will keep Annie safe is Annie. Not because she is capable of fighting gods, but because she knows Ysengrin, she has formed a sincere bond with him, and she knows how to talk to him. She also knows that he's unstable from previous experience so she doesn't just assume everything will be fine, but she thinks she can deal with that and I agree.
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Post by todd on Jun 18, 2018 12:36:18 GMT
I still think that Eglamore would be helping his case better if he would propose at least one alternative solution to "Annie speaking with Ysengrin". (Which might be a good idea, in any case. If Ysengrin is too stubborn and angry to listen even to Annie, and she can't get through to him, the Court will need a back-up plan.)
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Post by faiiry on Jun 18, 2018 12:39:59 GMT
Were you kidnapped by aliens over the weekend? oO No, and I still think this is all a bunch of terrible silliness. I'm just saying that against Ysengrin, Parley is pretty redundant. Jones, and maybe Eglamore but I doubt it, are the only ones among them who might stand a fighting chance. Even if Eglamore accompanied Annie, the most he can do is try to spirit her away to safety, and that only worked when Annie had her blinker stone, which she now doesn't, so Eglamore is all but useless. Parley is a mere apprentice, not as strong or as experienced as Eglamore yet, so what more could she do to fend off Coysengrin that Eglamore couldn't? No point in her coming along.
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Post by ohthatone on Jun 18, 2018 12:48:15 GMT
besides the super rad new hairstyle, did she take a minute to bulk up? maybe it's the style of shirt. I can't help but feel that James is at least partly petty in keeping Parley at the Court. I mean, he's not wrong, if there are creatures inside the barrier he would probably need the two of them, but I also hear a bit of "oh, you need MY student for your plan? well too bad, I'm her boss and she's staying. Also I hate you." It's like he's not even acknowledging that Jones can kick his ass.
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Post by zaferion on Jun 18, 2018 12:58:16 GMT
Now that's a Main Character Outfit™
edit: Annie's outfit combines the color schemes of green-and-brown Ysengrin and red-and-black Coyote. That's a nice touch
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Post by todd on Jun 18, 2018 12:59:50 GMT
I can't help but feel that James is at least partly petty in keeping Parley at the Court. I mean, he's not wrong, if there are creatures inside the barrier he would probably need the two of them, but I also hear a bit of "oh, you need MY student for your plan? well too bad, I'm her boss and she's staying. Also I hate you." Yes, I'm afraid that the real reason why Eglamore is opposing this plan is "the man who stole Surma away from me approves of it".
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Post by madjack on Jun 18, 2018 13:15:01 GMT
ANNIE! YOU'RE BACK! Like for reals actually this time. You know what, I disagree with this. Now that's a Main Character Outfit™ This is her 'ditching the headband' moment. The first look was her imitating her mother's. The second was heavily shaped by her father's influence on her childhood. This is hers, a mixture of Kat/Parley's practicality, her own feminine style and her love of the Forest. The real Annie Carver has just arrived.
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Post by The Anarch on Jun 18, 2018 13:19:59 GMT
Although I'm surprised she's not wearing her boots. As soon as she gets to the forest, all she's gonna do with her shoes is kick 'em right off anyway.
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Post by ctso74 on Jun 18, 2018 13:22:46 GMT
Although I'm surprised she's not wearing her boots. Speculation: Jones, for some reason, won't be able to go through the shield, so she'll end up going alone. I'm guessing it's either a one-way barrier, or they'll selectively lift it in an area. Otherwise, Annie might have an issue crossing it, with her being a fire-elemental. I'm really looking forward to the alone-time between Jones and Annie. It should be an interesting talk. I'm still wondering if the white figure in the chapter thumbnail is Jones or Annie.
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Post by The Anarch on Jun 18, 2018 13:44:45 GMT
besides the super rad new hairstyle, did she take a minute to bulk up? maybe it's the style of shirt. It looks like she's wearing some kind of armor, like a tactical vest. Which, given the situation she may be walking into, may not be too bad an idea.
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Post by aline on Jun 18, 2018 13:48:38 GMT
Parley is a mere apprentice, not as strong or as experienced as Eglamore yet, so what more could she do to fend off Coysengrin that Eglamore couldn't? No point in her coming along. She can instantly teleport Annie back to the Court, an ability Eglamore doesn't have. Combined with Jones, who is indestructible and can protect them while they leave, I'd say that's a foolproof escape plan. This isn't about fighting, it's about going home safely. Who is quicker at leaving is therefore more relevant than who's stronger, or better with a sword. Same reason why Eglamore didn't try fighting Ysengrin last time. Tom explicitely said it wasn't because he couldn't, but because his priority was to get Annie back.
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Post by The Anarch on Jun 18, 2018 15:05:12 GMT
Even if Eglamore accompanied Annie, the most he can do is try to spirit her away to safety, and that only worked when Annie had her blinker stone, which she now doesn't, so Eglamore is all but useless. How exactly do we come to the conclusion that it only worked because of the blinker stone? We don't know the full extent of Egger's abilities. It's perfectly possible that he could have distracted Ys some other way and having Annie use her stone was simply the most expedient option under the circumstances.
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