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Post by imaginaryfriend on Apr 16, 2018 7:03:35 GMT
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Post by turniptree on Apr 16, 2018 7:04:42 GMT
I'm laughing so hard at Eglamore's expressions in panels four and five.
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Post by madjack on Apr 16, 2018 7:04:45 GMT
Not everyone's mind works the same way yours does Parley.
Also no Orjak, goddammit.
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Post by faiiry on Apr 16, 2018 7:10:12 GMT
First of all: what is this, weird implication of romance between Annie and Eglamore #6? Is there a name for this ship? And a mandatory sentence for everyone who ships it?
Second of all, Parley looks decidedly less beefy then when we saw her last.
Third of all, the interjection of sudden levity into this previously extremely serious chapter is jarring and unwarranted, in my opinion. There's a lot to dislike about this page. Not feeling it.
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Post by Nepycros on Apr 16, 2018 7:10:41 GMT
Parley's been hung out to dry. Poor George.
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Post by gpvos on Apr 16, 2018 7:11:03 GMT
Good to see Parley can now control her teleporting even when Smits is not around (or at least we hope; we haven't seen where they end up yet).
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Post by Eversist on Apr 16, 2018 7:23:36 GMT
First of all: what is this, weird implication of romance between Annie and Eglamore #6? Is there a name for this ship? And a mandatory sentence for everyone who ships it? Second of all, Parley looks decidedly less beefy then when we saw her last. Third of all, the interjection of sudden levity into this previously extremely serious chapter is jarring and unwarranted, in my opinion. There's a lot to dislike about this page. Not feeling it.
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Post by faiiry on Apr 16, 2018 7:27:17 GMT
First of all: what is this, weird implication of romance between Annie and Eglamore #6? Is there a name for this ship? And a mandatory sentence for everyone who ships it? Second of all, Parley looks decidedly less beefy then when we saw her last. Third of all, the interjection of sudden levity into this previously extremely serious chapter is jarring and unwarranted, in my opinion. There's a lot to dislike about this page. Not feeling it. That's the appropriate face to make when somebody insinuates that a 15-year-old wants to sleep with you and you're a grown-ass man old enough to be her father and very well could have been her father if her mother hadn't unceremoniously dumped you.
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Post by Eversist on Apr 16, 2018 7:30:00 GMT
That's the appropriate face to make when somebody insinuates that a 15-year-old wants to sleep with you and you're a grown-ass man old enough to be her father and very well could have been her father if her mother hadn't unceremoniously dumped you. Well, sure. Parley's been known to make off-color jokes in the past. Seems in-character to me for her to say something wildly inappropriate in this situation. (No, I'm not projecting here at all, what are you talking about) Edit: Also, I personally read it as a sort of meta joke.
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Post by faiiry on Apr 16, 2018 7:34:39 GMT
That's the appropriate face to make when somebody insinuates that a 15-year-old wants to sleep with you and you're a grown-ass man old enough to be her father and very well could have been her father if her mother hadn't unceremoniously dumped you. Well, sure. Parley's been known to make off-color jokes in the past. Seems in-character to me for her to say something wildly inappropriate in this situation. (No, I'm not projecting here at all, what are you talking about) Edit: Also, I personally read it as a sort of meta joke. Based on the slightly afraid look on her face, my guess is that she tried to come up with something funny to lighten the unknown situation, and instead came up with something mildly creepy. Good job, Parley.
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Post by gpvos on Apr 16, 2018 7:42:37 GMT
That's the appropriate face to make when somebody insinuates that a 15-year-old wants to sleep with you and you're a grown-ass man old enough to be her father and very well could have been her father if her mother hadn't unceremoniously dumped you. Also, when you remember an earlier awkward situation between yourself and Annie.Well, sure. Parley's been known to make off-color jokes in the past. Seems in-character to me for her to say something wildly inappropriate in this situation. Maybe, a few moments ago, she and Jimmy were sitting at the campfire cracking jokes. It takes some time to switch to serious mode.
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Post by madjack on Apr 16, 2018 7:44:02 GMT
Eggers doesn't look like he has the magic sword on him does he?
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Post by Eversist on Apr 16, 2018 7:44:46 GMT
Well, sure. Parley's been known to make off-color jokes in the past. Seems in-character to me for her to say something wildly inappropriate in this situation. Maybe, a few moments ago, she and Jimmy were sitting at the campfire cracking jokes. It takes some time to switch to serious mode. Yeah, I figure she goes full bro-mode when on training. I can dig it. (Probably not at a fire though, since it's the middle of the day. But I know what you meant. Wait, they could have been ANYWHERE. I take that back.)
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Post by imaginaryfriend on Apr 16, 2018 8:17:45 GMT
They did spend two panels (#3 and #4) looking around and there's no visible danger. The noises from Ys' stand-off attacks have ceased so they wouldn't hear anything unusual either. Antimony doesn't look surprised or injured. Since Renard's there, if I were George I'd probably guess that Antimony used the beacon accidentally [edit] or for some other not-really-an-emergency reason [/edit] and some good-natured ribbing was in order. Or payback, whichever you prefer.
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Post by philman on Apr 16, 2018 9:12:40 GMT
Eglamore and Annie. Lonely after the Love Boat, lonely after Parley being inappropriate.
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Post by speedwell on Apr 16, 2018 9:28:12 GMT
It is COMPLETELY meta. We can take it as given (on this page at least) that the actual words they are speaking (or not speaking) are not the exact words on the page any more than the characters would actually look like that if you happened to meet them on the street.
Personally I think that it took place in no more than a second, like this:
"Parley's raised eyebrows and louche grin" "Annie's momentary angry WTF expression" "Annie's Never-mind-I'm-scared face" "Eglamore's changing expressions as he notices all this nonverbal byplay" Annie: "Take us all out of here NOW!"
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Post by faiiry on Apr 16, 2018 9:30:55 GMT
It is COMPLETELY meta. We can take it as given (on this page at least) that the actual words they are speaking (or not speaking) are not the exact words on the page any more than the characters would actually look like that if you happened to meet them on the street. Personally I think that it took place like this: "Parley's raised eyebrow and louche grin" "Annie's momentary angry WTF expression" "Annie's Never-mind-I'm-scared face" "Eglamore's changing expressions as he notices all this nonverbal byplay"Annie: "Take us all out of here NOW!" Still don't like it. With the seriousness and horror of the rest of this chapter, why is there suddenly humor? It's jarring. Especially humor based around this particular subject, but I won't go there.
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Post by speedwell on Apr 16, 2018 9:36:23 GMT
Still don't like it. With the seriousness and horror of the rest of this chapter, why is there suddenly humor? It's jarring. Especially humor based around this particular subject, but I won't go there. I'm sure it's intended to be jarring and uncomfortable, even disorienting. And it's also Parley's expected response to stress and emergency. There was no good reason to expect Parley to show up alongside Eglamore at all when Annie broke the signal, really. Notice it was "zam" when they entered and "bip" when they exited, which tells you who did what. I would not have expected these particular Court members to have been so out of the loop unless the whole Ysengrin thing happened in only a minute or two, milieu time.
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Post by najmniejszy on Apr 16, 2018 9:38:26 GMT
Is the symbol that appears when they have teleported in the same symbol that appeared when Brinnie teleported away? EDIT: Sure looks like it, even has the same ZAM www.gunnerkrigg.com/?p=1013
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Post by gilnar on Apr 16, 2018 9:47:41 GMT
Who's that guy with Parley?
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Post by yinglung on Apr 16, 2018 10:41:34 GMT
It is COMPLETELY meta. We can take it as given (on this page at least) that the actual words they are speaking (or not speaking) are not the exact words on the page any more than the characters would actually look like that if you happened to meet them on the street. Personally I think that it took place like this: "Parley's raised eyebrow and louche grin" "Annie's momentary angry WTF expression" "Annie's Never-mind-I'm-scared face" "Eglamore's changing expressions as he notices all this nonverbal byplay"Annie: "Take us all out of here NOW!" Still don't like it. With the seriousness and horror of the rest of this chapter, why is there suddenly humor? It's jarring. Especially humor based around this particular subject, but I won't go there. Oddly I had the opposite reaction. This joke makes sense for Parley to make, considering her first teleport was to her own bedroom, with the guy she liked. As for why this joke exists in the middle of a dramatic sequence, it's a textbook example of comic relief.
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Post by faiiry on Apr 16, 2018 10:59:49 GMT
Still don't like it. With the seriousness and horror of the rest of this chapter, why is there suddenly humor? It's jarring. Especially humor based around this particular subject, but I won't go there. Oddly I had the opposite reaction. This joke makes sense for Parley to make, considering her first teleport was to her own bedroom, with the guy she liked. As for why this joke exists in the middle of a dramatic sequence, it's a textbook example of comic relief. It's not just Parley's joke - it's understandable that Parley would make said joke, given that she has no idea of the gravity of what's going on. It's more of how Antimony responds in a humorous/meta way. I guess it's just a matter of opinion. I don't like there being this sudden meta moment in the middle of such a game-changing, dramatic chapter.
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Post by pyradonis on Apr 16, 2018 11:09:52 GMT
I guess that's not what Annie really says. But it made me laugh.
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Post by imaginaryfriend on Apr 16, 2018 11:22:43 GMT
Oddly I had the opposite reaction. This joke makes sense for Parley to make, considering her first teleport was to her own bedroom, with the guy she liked. As for why this joke exists in the middle of a dramatic sequence, it's a textbook example of comic relief. It's not just Parley's joke - it's understandable that Parley would make said joke, given that she has no idea of the gravity of what's going on. It's more of how Antimony responds in a humorous/meta way. I guess it's just a matter of opinion. I don't like there being this sudden meta moment in the middle of such a game-changing, dramatic chapter. Maybe Antimony is immature enough that destroying the narrative that George puts forth is, at least briefly, more important than steps that need to be taken to react to the current emergency. Adolescent egocentrism on display in fiction, particularly a character reacting to an imaginary audience, can sometimes look like fourth-wall breaking.
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Post by faiiry on Apr 16, 2018 11:42:16 GMT
It's not just Parley's joke - it's understandable that Parley would make said joke, given that she has no idea of the gravity of what's going on. It's more of how Antimony responds in a humorous/meta way. I guess it's just a matter of opinion. I don't like there being this sudden meta moment in the middle of such a game-changing, dramatic chapter. Maybe Antimony is immature enough that destroying the narrative that George puts forth is, at least briefly, more important than steps that need to be taken to react to the current emergency. Adolescent egocentrism on display in fiction, particularly a character reacting to an imaginary audience, can sometimes look like fourth-wall breaking. Very true that this could be the case - but I don't think Antimony has been shown to be that kind of person. She seems to be reserved and serious at almost all times, and her immaturity seems to be restricted to the recklessness she shows by breaking court rules and overestimating her power in the forest, and an inability to humble herself to ask for help. I could well be wrong, but I don't recall a time where Annie was immature in a stereotypical teenage fashion (romantically, I mean), other than in her dealings with Jack. Even on page 476, which arguably was a more brazen example of sexual tension between Annie and Eglamore (which is honestly the most WTF aspect of the comic for me), Annie doesn't comment on Eggers' behavior. If your argument is correct, Annie's first imperative would be to say something to the effect of, "He was not trying to undress me, he was merely assisting me with my attire" (I'm trying to sound like a stilted kid raised in a hospital as best I can), in order to discredit Jones' comment. In that situation, however, she didn't bother to say anything. In this situation of today's comic, where a huge attack is going on and everyone's lives are in danger, how much more likely is it that she'd take the precious time - however brief - to destroy Parley's narrative? What I'm trying to say is that - yes, Annie is immature. But in a dire situation like this, I don't think she would be immature enough that she would postpone dealing with Coyote's rampage, however briefly, to comment on romantic situations. Of course, it's all up to Tom, whatever he does with these characters is law. I'm just quibbling based on what we have seen so far. This is a really minor issue - this is one page out of 2000, and I don't have to love all of them. I just think it's a little OOC. (By the way, this page having re-introduced the whole plotline of potential romantic sparks between Annie and Eggers is not doing good for me. I've broken out in hives and my teeth are ground to shreds just from the force of trying not to think about it.)
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Post by frogspawned on Apr 16, 2018 11:54:24 GMT
Personally I hope they get married and have lots of beautiful children.
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Post by madjack on Apr 16, 2018 12:06:31 GMT
It is COMPLETELY meta. We can take it as given (on this page at least) that the actual words they are speaking (or not speaking) are not the exact words on the page any more than the characters would actually look like that if you happened to meet them on the street. Personally I think that it took place in no more than a second, like this: "Parley's raised eyebrows and louche grin" "Annie's momentary angry WTF expression" "Annie's Never-mind-I'm-scared face" "Eglamore's changing expressions as he notices all this nonverbal byplay"Annie: "Take us all out of here NOW!" I guess that's not what Annie really says. But it made me laugh. Even better pictured like this...
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Post by merry76 on Apr 16, 2018 12:09:35 GMT
Eglamore is trying his hardest not to imply he finds a teenage girl hot. Wich you should, because she is. She is also 50% fire spirit, that should count for hotness.
Also, Parley being confused why an emergency teleport leads to a bedroom IS funny. The "break in case of emergency stick" shouldnt be stored in a bedroom, because the fewest of emergencies tend to happen there.
I am confused why it summons both Eglamore and Parley though.
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Post by imaginaryfriend on Apr 16, 2018 12:22:45 GMT
I am confused why it summons both Eglamore and Parley though. I don't think it does. Eggers is grabbing George by the shoulder in panel #2 so I figure he's taking her with him. What I'm trying to say is that - yes, Annie is immature. But in a dire situation like this, I don't think she would be immature enough that she would postpone dealing with Coyote's rampage, however briefly, to comment on romantic situations. Of course, it's all up to Tom, whatever he does with these characters is law. I'm just quibbling based on what we have seen so far. This is a really minor issue - this is one page out of 2000, and I don't have to love all of them. I just think it's a little OOC. It is controversial because we don't know what the best move would have been but there was that time when Smitface got stabbed by Jeanne and Antimony didn't want George to teleport him to the hospital. By the way, this page having re-introduced the whole plotline of potential romantic sparks between Annie and Eggers is not doing good for me. I've broken out in hives and my teeth are ground to shreds just from the force of trying not to think about it. Except in Kat's mind and among the fanbase I don't think that was ever a thing. I saw this as a callback to the early days of Parsmit. [edit] Though you must admit that it would be the penultimate revenge crackpairing on Anthony. [/edit]
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Post by jda on Apr 16, 2018 12:32:20 GMT
I am confused why it summons both Eglamore and Parley though. Id bet the stick power is not Eglamore-summoning, but Court-Protector-summoning. Maybe one of the tatoos she also got
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