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Post by faiiry on Mar 19, 2018 7:01:28 GMT
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brokshi
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About as furious as my icon appears ecstatic.
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Post by brokshi on Mar 19, 2018 7:03:30 GMT
Well, this is going to be disastrous.
Finally.
It's been 3 years since Tony came back and almost 2 since Jeanne started being dealt with. This is exactly the kind of major event I've been waiting for since then.
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Post by Zox Tomana on Mar 19, 2018 7:04:17 GMT
We shall tremble in the presence of his terrifying skills of gardening.Also, it's 1963, not 1962, and you didn't link directly to the page. EDIT: got fixed |
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Post by youwiththeface on Mar 19, 2018 7:06:35 GMT
Well there's a Chekhov's gun we haven't seen in a while.
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Post by madjack on Mar 19, 2018 7:08:39 GMT
Chekov's Artillery Battery, you mean.
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Post by faiiry on Mar 19, 2018 7:11:10 GMT
I have a feeling this chapter will be a game changer.
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Post by turniptree on Mar 19, 2018 7:14:35 GMT
Things are seriously intense. Before this page, I was thinking maybe he'd back off for now.
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Post by madjack on Mar 19, 2018 7:23:04 GMT
So if we take that tree-hand as a taste of what he can do.... are we going to see the Court completely overgrown?
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Post by jda on Mar 19, 2018 7:43:19 GMT
There's a certain number of "I totally didn't expect this!!" that Im allowed to say per year, and I had to borrow from the next decade, on this chapter alone...
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Post by rafk on Mar 19, 2018 7:50:42 GMT
Ah, of course.
Coyote keeps his word. He can't attack the Court. But Ysengrin can, and armed with Coyote's powers and edited memories, he will.
That's the trick.
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Post by theonethatgotaway on Mar 19, 2018 8:03:16 GMT
Just quick note: THOSE BETTER NOT BE IN ANY LAB PAZ IS WORKING IN, BECAUSE IF SHE GETS HURT, IT'LL BE FOREST GOD AGAINST MECHA ETHER GOD BATTLE EXTRAVANGANZA!
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Post by noone3 on Mar 19, 2018 8:11:16 GMT
I have a feeling this chapter will be a game changer. In contrast to which chapter exactly? So if we take that tree-hand as a taste of what he can do.... are we going to see the Court completely overgrown? Yup. Think Sleeping Beauty style...  |
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Post by Per on Mar 19, 2018 8:22:04 GMT
Well, this certainly saves him the effort of airdropping three new seeds in there. (Unless it's significant that they're in whichever storage facility they're in.) So if we take that tree-hand as a taste of what he can do.... are we going to see the Court completely overgrown? I'm imagining he's going to go all Swamp Thing on Gotham City. |
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fjodorii
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It just does, ok?
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Post by fjodorii on Mar 19, 2018 8:22:18 GMT
Whoa, that is some serious plot planning! Question is: did Ys drop the seeds on his own initiative, or was Coyote in on the plan? If this was all Ys' own scheming, then the Trickster got tricked big time!
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Post by rafk on Mar 19, 2018 8:25:23 GMT
Ah, of course. Coyote keeps his word. He can't attack the Court. But Ysengrin can, and armed with Coyote's powers and edited memories, he will. That's the trick. Thinking further. This is what Coyote has been working towards. Setting up and guiding Annie and co towards the removal of Jeanne, getting the seeds in place years in advance.. what else has Coyote been patiently plotting, what other hidden pawns on the board in waiting for the moment the path was cleared for this moment? The only question is really whether Reynardine being at the Court, and everything with Surma, was a failed generation of Coyote's plans or whether it was all a very long term set up indeed. I feel that is exactly what it will turn out to be. |
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brokshi
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Post by brokshi on Mar 19, 2018 8:29:37 GMT
Thinking further. This is what Coyote has been working towards. Setting up and guiding Annie and co towards the removal of Jeanne, getting the seeds in place years in advance.. what else has Coyote been patiently plotting, what other hidden pawns on the board in waiting for the moment the path was cleared for this moment? The only question is really whether Reynardine being at the Court, and everything with Surma, was a failed generation of Coyote's plans or whether it was all a very long term set up indeed. I feel that is exactly what it will turn out to be. I'm mostly interested to what the end-game here is in the short-term. Is this only a show of force, destroying the bridge and using the seeds to grow a symbol of forest strength? Or is this the beginning of a rampage through the court? When will it stop? Will anyone we care about be hurt? Speculating what actions a mad wolf given godly power will take is folly. How will the court retaliate? |
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Post by kefka on Mar 19, 2018 8:31:38 GMT
Why the hell didn't they destroy those seeds.
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Post by bicarbonat on Mar 19, 2018 8:32:21 GMT
If somebody doesn't die behind this melee, I'll be surprised. I nominate the Headmaster, if only to get some posthumous backstory secrets...and because he's a berk (or is he?).
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Post by bicarbonat on Mar 19, 2018 8:33:12 GMT
Why the hell didn't they destroy those seeds. They should've had Jones eat them for safekeeping. |
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Post by noone3 on Mar 19, 2018 8:41:37 GMT
Why the hell didn't they destroy those seeds. For science of course!  |
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Post by csj on Mar 19, 2018 9:06:03 GMT
Better call the dryad.
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Post by arf on Mar 19, 2018 9:28:08 GMT
Calling all dryads"And therefore, since I cannot prove a lover,
To entertain these fair well-spoken days,
I am determined to prove a villain
And hate the idle pleasures of these days.
Plots have I laid, inductions dangerous,
By drunken prophecies, libels and dreams,
To set my brother Coyote and the Court of Gunnerkrigg
In deadly hate the one against the other."
- a slight paraphrasing of the opening speech from Richard III
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Post by theonethatgotaway on Mar 19, 2018 10:22:27 GMT
Why the hell didn't they destroy those seeds. For science of course! The hubris of man! Trying to understand and control all things! Also, make stuff go boom!! |
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Post by saardvark on Mar 19, 2018 10:38:33 GMT
Why the hell didn't they destroy those seeds. They should've had Jones eat them for safekeeping. It would be amusing to see branches growing out of Jones' ears.... |
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Post by zaratustra on Mar 19, 2018 11:03:59 GMT
If we're talking about Chekhov's guns that we thought had been unloaded, there's also Robot's wood arm in a containment garden somewhere, and the Tick-Tock corpse eating at the cliff face.
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Post by aline on Mar 19, 2018 11:35:05 GMT
Ah, of course. Coyote keeps his word. He can't attack the Court. But Ysengrin can, and armed with Coyote's powers and edited memories, he will. That's the trick. Thinking further. This is what Coyote has been working towards. Setting up and guiding Annie and co towards the removal of Jeanne, getting the seeds in place years in advance.. what else has Coyote been patiently plotting, what other hidden pawns on the board in waiting for the moment the path was cleared for this moment? The only question is really whether Reynardine being at the Court, and everything with Surma, was a failed generation of Coyote's plans or whether it was all a very long term set up indeed. I feel that is exactly what it will turn out to be. I think Coyote is more an opportunist than a long-term-calculations player. He's been spreading potential for chaos, not knowing how that potential could be exploited later, but knowing some opportunity would probably arise at some point. He'd only just met Annie when the seeds were left in the Court back then. I'm sure he smelled some fun ahead, but he couldn't have had any master plan about Jeanne at that point. The seeds were just an entertaining time bomb that might prove useful later. And I doubt Coyote could ever have made Annie free Jeanne anyway. It happened because Annie wanted to do it. But once it happened, it became something for him to use. The same way, Ysengrin's temper and hate for humans is something he's been playing around probably for centuries. He didn't know how he'd make that particular bomb explode in everybody's face, but he knew he could make it explode whenever he found a sufficiently entertaining time and place. At some point, he decided he had all the ingredients of really cool fireworks and started mixing the powder and adding the fuse. |
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Post by madjack on Mar 19, 2018 12:01:44 GMT
Looking at the first panel again... Is he lifting himself up on a whirlwind/tornado kind of thing?
What other powers is he going to show off?
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Post by saardvark on Mar 19, 2018 12:05:00 GMT
Calling all dryads"And therefore, since I cannot prove a lover,
To entertain these fair well-spoken days,
I am determined to prove a villain
And hate the idle pleasures of these days.
Plots have I laid, inductions dangerous,
By drunken prophecies, libels and dreams,
To set my brother Coyote and the Court of Gunnerkrigg
In deadly hate the one against the other."
- a slight paraphrasing of the opening speech from Richard III Or ... " Jonathan1 shall never vanquished be until
Great Gillitie Wood to high Dunsinane Hill
Shall come against him." 1(the Headmaster) - slight tweak to Macbeth act 4 scene 1 the Bard, ever fresh and relevant.... |
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Post by todd on Mar 19, 2018 12:45:56 GMT
And I doubt Coyote could ever have made Annie free Jeanne anyway. It happened because Annie wanted to do it. But once it happened, it became something for him to use. Short of assuming that Coyote and Muut were secretly in league, I'd rule out the notion that he got Annie to free Jeanne. The big question now is, whether this new phase of the attack on the Court is what Coyote wants or what Ysengrin wants (getting into the question of whether this is Ysengrin's consciousness or whether what we're now seeing is Coyote in the body that used to be Ysengrin's). Ysengrin is genuinely angry at the Court and wants to strike back at it. Coyote's tone, on the other hand, has been more of a practical joker, committing mischievous acts because they amused him; his meddling with the Court is based on that rather than the "ideological feud" that's motivated Ysengrin, the Shadow People, and the monsters from "Crash Course". (Unless he does indeed share their hatred of the Court and has been hiding it beneath his "just for the laughs" exterior.) And I don't know which motive would be the more dangerous. Hatred of the Court based on fear (presumably fear of the consequences of the Court's experiments with the ether) and the resentment over the implication that the forest-folk are merely the creation of the human imagination and have no independent existence - or simply seeing it as something fun to do? (If the latter, and this is indeed Coyote in Ysengrin's body, with Ysengrin's essence consumed, as many readers have suggested, then the Court's only hope may be for Coyote to get bored after a bit and leave.) |
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Post by pyradonis on Mar 19, 2018 12:53:19 GMT
Finally those seeds are being put to use! Just quick note: THOSE BETTER NOT BE IN ANY LAB PAZ IS WORKING IN, BECAUSE IF SHE GETS HURT, IT'LL BE FOREST GOD AGAINST MECHA ETHER GOD BATTLE EXTRAVANGANZA! Paz works mainly with animals, not plants, so I guess she'll be fine... If we're talking about Chekhov's guns that we thought had been unloaded, there's also Robot's wood arm in a containment garden somewhere, and the Tick-Tock corpse eating at the cliff face. That Tic-Toc was crushed to powder by Ysengrin himself, I don't think it'll become relevant in any way... The arm has been in containment in order to break all links to the forest for years. However a God's power might prove stronger, aye... |
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