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Post by CoyoteReborn on Jan 31, 2018 8:00:26 GMT
He is My wolf, the mighty weapon in My paw against the Court!!He is My right arm! My most trusted lieutenant, yes yes! The limb does not disobey the mind, of course!He is...he's... My cruelest achievement? My proudest mistake?
I warped him to My will, and he loves Me for breaking him, and I hate what I have made
and I'll do it again the next day anyway
for it is My natureand sometimes in the dark I cannot tell if I am laughing or crying
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Post by erunion on Jan 31, 2018 8:10:24 GMT
Ohhhhhh daaaang.
Consequences and fallout for clearing the Annan waters? The wall is donwn - will the Huns soon be at the gate?
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Post by madjack on Jan 31, 2018 8:11:40 GMT
Ohhhhhh daaaang. Consequences and fallout for clearing the Annan waters? The wall is donwn - will the Huns soon be at the gate? That was kinda inevitable. |
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Post by youwiththeface on Jan 31, 2018 8:18:45 GMT
Will Ysengrin even remember that Jeanne is gone, though?
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Post by philman on Jan 31, 2018 8:41:41 GMT
Oh... so THAT's where this chapter is going. Coyote manipulating Ysengrin into crossing the river?
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Post by madjack on Jan 31, 2018 9:34:51 GMT
Random thought: Is this why Ys' army immediately challenged him in ch.44? Does he have a history of sending them to their deaths that he can't remember?
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Post by TBeholder on Jan 31, 2018 10:01:18 GMT
Predictably Damaged.
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Post by Señor Goose on Jan 31, 2018 10:03:31 GMT
Oh... so THAT's where this chapter is going. Coyote manipulating Ysengrin into crossing the river? Or the other way around? Happy 1k btw |
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Post by jda on Jan 31, 2018 12:06:51 GMT
It WAS just a red guy.
Now there's two.
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Post by todd on Jan 31, 2018 12:32:36 GMT
Ohhhhhh daaaang. Consequences and fallout for clearing the Annan waters? The wall is donwn - will the Huns soon be at the gate? I hope that Tom's not going in that direction; such an approach would suggest justifying the murder of two people (tainted all the more by one of the principal plotters being motivated, not even by the "bent" motive of trying to protect their home, but through twisted means, but by the "broken" motive of jealousy and revenge upon both the woman he couldn't have and the successful rival suitor). |
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Post by pyradonis on Jan 31, 2018 12:43:56 GMT
Random thought: Is this why Ys' army immediately challenged him in ch.44? Does he have a history of sending them to their deaths that he can't remember? Interesting thought, although I always read it as the monsters perceiving him as weakened. Similiar to how it happens in animal packs, when a weak leader gets overthrown and killed. Ohhhhhh daaaang. Consequences and fallout for clearing the Annan waters? The wall is donwn - will the Huns soon be at the gate? I hope that Tom's not going in that direction; such an approach would suggest justifying the murder of two people (tainted all the more by one of the principal plotters being motivated, not even by the "bent" motive of trying to protect their home, but through twisted means, but by the "broken" motive of jealousy and revenge upon both the woman he couldn't have and the successful rival suitor). I concur... Also, who knows whether Ysengrin would still want to destroy the Court. After all, it is Annie's home, whom he likes. Also, is that the most violent page of the comic yet? We've seen Robot bodies being destroyed and sliced in half, but no living beings as far as I remember. |
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Post by madjack on Jan 31, 2018 13:18:09 GMT
Random thought: Is this why Ys' army immediately challenged him in ch.44? Does he have a history of sending them to their deaths that he can't remember? Interesting thought, although I always read it as the monsters perceiving him as weakened. Similiar to how it happens in animal packs, when a weak leader gets overthrown and killed. This is probably the right answer, although even if he didn't tell the others what happened to those who got volunteered, having some of their own dragged off to never return might be added incentive to challenge the pack leadership. |
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Post by freeman on Jan 31, 2018 13:23:35 GMT
"Red guy" means "a devil", not "the devil", of course gunnerkrigg court has devils in it. I don't think that's Ysengrin.
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Post by pyradonis on Jan 31, 2018 15:05:32 GMT
"Red guy" means "a devil", not "the devil", of course gunnerkrigg court has devils in it. I don't think that's Ysengrin. It's probably Eglamore. |
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Post by jda on Jan 31, 2018 15:22:20 GMT
"Red guy" means "a devil", not "the devil", of course gunnerkrigg court has devils in it. I don't think that's Ysengrin. It's probably Eglamore. No, no, Eglamore was the clad on white one. |
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Post by Daedalus on Jan 31, 2018 15:40:53 GMT
Also, is that the most violent page of the comic yet? We've seen Robot bodies being destroyed and sliced in half, but no living beings as far as I remember. Arguably, the page where Smitty was perforated could be considered more violent, since we know the fellow. That being said, he didn't die in the end, so it had less dire consequences than this page. |
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Post by ctso74 on Jan 31, 2018 17:27:21 GMT
It WAS just a red guy. Now there's two. His name was Zack. He always brought the best guacamole dip to Forest parties. It's a pity, he refused to give the recipe to Ysengrin. Y's "avocado phase" killed many a fine warrior. |
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Post by fia on Jan 31, 2018 19:18:43 GMT
Hypothesis:
Jeanne chopped off Y's ear?
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Post by todd on Feb 1, 2018 0:08:33 GMT
Hypothesis: Jeanne chopped off Y's ear? That might be one of Ysengrin's most impressive moments, if that was the case - that all Jeanne managed to do was cut off his ear, but he got away without injury beyond that. |
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Post by netherdan on Feb 1, 2018 0:58:21 GMT
Hypothesis: Jeanne chopped off Y's ear? That might be one of Ysengrin's most impressive moments, if that was the case - that all Jeanne managed to do was cut off his ear, but he got away without injury beyond that. They needed a full raid party and a simultaneous side quest to beat that boss. It's pretty impressive if he did manage to survive her with just minor injuries |
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Post by netherdan on Feb 1, 2018 1:17:04 GMT
Honestly I can't understand how people are questioning it as if these were present events.
This is clearly showing us a flashback going backwards to a time where Ysengrim wasn't the most friendly guy towards humans.
And that's weird because it's kinda like he would never be anywhere near friendly at Annie if Coyote didn't mess with his mind, so I shifted from being angry at Coyote to being relieved that she had done whatever was done to prevent his beloved general from harming what in her theory was the source of their own existence
I wonder where will we go next... What if Coyote messed with Ysengrim's mind before messing with his mind? What if that's the reason Y's got that much hatred towards humans? What if Y was neutral or even friendly at humans and Coyote changed that just cuz he was bored? Then is doing it again for the same reason? I can see this just being a game for someone that inconsequent
PS: yes, I mixed Coyote's gender; yes, it was on purpose
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Post by mturtle7 on Feb 1, 2018 2:40:21 GMT
That might be one of Ysengrin's most impressive moments, if that was the case - that all Jeanne managed to do was cut off his ear, but he got away without injury beyond that. They needed a full raid party and a simultaneous side quest to beat that boss. It's pretty impressive if he did manage to survive her with just minor injuries . That said, I still like the old theory where he lost it to one of Coyote's bindings. |
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Post by youwiththeface on Feb 1, 2018 3:20:46 GMT
Ohhhhhh daaaang. Consequences and fallout for clearing the Annan waters? The wall is donwn - will the Huns soon be at the gate? I hope that Tom's not going in that direction; such an approach would suggest justifying the murder of two people (tainted all the more by one of the principal plotters being motivated, not even by the "bent" motive of trying to protect their home, but through twisted means, but by the "broken" motive of jealousy and revenge upon both the woman he couldn't have and the successful rival suitor). 100% agreed. |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 1, 2018 6:17:01 GMT
Also, is that the most violent page of the comic yet? We've seen Robot bodies being destroyed and sliced in half, but no living beings as far as I remember. |
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Post by faiiry on Feb 1, 2018 8:06:03 GMT
Ohhhhhh daaaang. Consequences and fallout for clearing the Annan waters? The wall is donwn - will the Huns soon be at the gate? I hope that Tom's not going in that direction; such an approach would suggest justifying the murder of two people (tainted all the more by one of the principal plotters being motivated, not even by the "bent" motive of trying to protect their home, but through twisted means, but by the "broken" motive of jealousy and revenge upon both the woman he couldn't have and the successful rival suitor). I don't feel that it justifies anything. Actions have consequences. The murder of Jeanne and her lover was heinous, and was put into action by a jealous, conniving, evil little man. But nonetheless, it had consequences: the forest was prevented from attacking the court. Now that Jeanne is gone, there will inevitably be even more consequences to her disappearance: there's no longer a guard. The comic isn't a morally simple, black-and-white thing. Thus far, in my view, pretty much nothing that's happened - up to and including Anthony's terrible treatment of his daughter, frankly to my own dismay - has been portrayed as bluntly "good" or "bad." Everything's just something that's happening within the story. If the story was a simple and moralistic tale, Antimony and Kat would be shown having a conversation about how Diego was a terrible man, but now his victims have been put to rest, and everything is okay, the end. That didn't happen, thank goodness. Diego's actions were evil and motivated by evil thoughts, but they led to a guard being stationed on the river who prevented a great war from occuring, and likely also prevented the slaughter of many innocents. Like I said - nothing's black-and-white. There is a consequence to every action, and not every consequence is purely good and bad, and the comic is a comic that knows that life is shades of grey. And anyway, there's pretty much no other route for Tom to go. The groundwork for the forest attacking the court, or vice versa - and the fact that Jeanne's existence and Coyote's whim were the only things preventing a war - has been being laid down since page one. It has to come to fruition sometime, or the story would be pointless. |
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Post by philman on Feb 1, 2018 9:37:23 GMT
Oh... so THAT's where this chapter is going. Coyote manipulating Ysengrin into crossing the river? Or the other way around? Happy 1k btw Oh crap, I didn't even notice, thanks! Whoo! 1k party! Now 1k+1, ah I ruined it. |
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Post by jda on Feb 1, 2018 12:59:03 GMT
Or the other way around? Happy 1k btw Oh crap, I didn't even notice, thanks! Whoo! 1k party! Now 1k+1, ah I ruined it. You're a Gunner, you have your own house on GKC, so everyday might be party day |
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Post by philman on Feb 1, 2018 15:03:32 GMT
Oh crap, I didn't even notice, thanks! Whoo! 1k party! Now 1k+1, ah I ruined it. You're a Gunner, you have your own house on GKC, so everyday might be party day As my avatar says: yay! |
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Post by bgb16999 on Feb 1, 2018 18:14:13 GMT
Also, is that the most violent page of the comic yet? We've seen Robot bodies being destroyed and sliced in half, but no living beings as far as I remember. Arguably, the page where Smitty was perforated could be considered more violent, since we know the fellow. That being said, he didn't die in the end, so it had less dire consequences than this page. What about Mort being bombed to death? |
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Post by pyradonis on Feb 1, 2018 21:57:06 GMT
Also, is that the most violent page of the comic yet? We've seen Robot bodies being destroyed and sliced in half, but no living beings as far as I remember. Thanks, I had totally forgotten abouth that one! What about Mort being bombed to death? That was only shown in an abstracted way, though. |
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