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Post by ebaaus on Oct 9, 2017 7:03:45 GMT
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Post by arf on Oct 9, 2017 7:06:57 GMT
Which explains why he told Annie to go and take her make up off, I suppose.
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Post by imaginaryfriend on Oct 9, 2017 7:07:04 GMT
Ninja'd by less than a minute for thread creation.
The first flirt is indeed from Anthony... But this isn't a serious move so I'm not ready to collect cookies.
Yet.
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Post by Nepycros on Oct 9, 2017 7:07:31 GMT
Skipping, for the moment, the obligatory flashback to when Tony reprimanded Annie for makeup, can we just admire how easily Surma is won over? Like, she's definitely so full of emotions and that seems to just bounce off Tony, whose emotions are only shown in brief intervals. I wonder if she lost her 'spark' when her fire began passing to her daughter, and that caused her outbursts to die down. Or if she just matured.
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Post by psybershadow on Oct 9, 2017 7:21:59 GMT
So Tony wants his daughter to be sexy. Alright got it.
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Post by youwiththeface on Oct 9, 2017 7:24:10 GMT
Kind of....ew.
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Post by calpal on Oct 9, 2017 7:28:10 GMT
So Tony wants his daughter to be sexy. Alright got it. Actually, I think he wants his daughter to NOT be sexy. Let's not Trump things up beyond reasonable proportions.
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Post by Druplesnubb on Oct 9, 2017 7:54:47 GMT
So Tony wants his daughter to be sexy. Alright got it. Except he explicitly told Annie to take off her makeup
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Post by arf on Oct 9, 2017 8:17:29 GMT
So Tony wants his daughter to be sexy. Alright got it. Actually, I think he wants his daughter to NOT be sexy. Let's not Trump things up beyond reasonable proportions. By all means, let us not bring Trump into this conversation! That *would* be "eew"!!
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Post by psybershadow on Oct 9, 2017 8:33:38 GMT
So Tony wants his daughter to be sexy. Alright got it. Except he explicitly told Annie to take off her makeup Exactly. And Tony likes women without make-up. Instead of, you know, letting her make her own decision independently. At first I thought it was because he was a controlling parent and strict teacher but now... I don'know.
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Post by ST13R on Oct 9, 2017 8:44:56 GMT
Except he explicitly told Annie to take off her makeup Exactly. And Tony likes women without make-up. Instead of, you know, letting her make her own decision independently. At first I thought it was because he was a controlling parent and strict teacher but now... I don'know. I thiiink you're interpreting the page wrong. Tony says 'I always thought it was very sexy', which is a comment about when she was wearing make-up.
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Post by artezzatrigger on Oct 9, 2017 8:49:54 GMT
He still manages to maintain that patented Tony Bluntness even when the Shell is off, it seems.
Laughing at how nonchalant he is.
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Post by drdave on Oct 9, 2017 8:54:33 GMT
There you go. Someone had to.
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Post by psybershadow on Oct 9, 2017 9:09:34 GMT
Exactly. And Tony likes women without make-up. Instead of, you know, letting her make her own decision independently. At first I thought it was because he was a controlling parent and strict teacher but now... I don'know. I thiiink you're interpreting the page wrong. Tony says 'I always thought it was very sexy', which is a comment about when she was wearing make-up. Ah, I was, thank you. <3
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Post by bicarbonat on Oct 9, 2017 9:16:15 GMT
There you go. Someone had to. I call this piece "You In Danger, Girl" *cue ambience music* youtu.be/JvqMvxdZTVE
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Post by KMar on Oct 9, 2017 11:44:57 GMT
So Tony wants his daughter to be sexy. Alright got it. Actually, I think he wants his daughter to NOT be sexy. Let's not Trump things up beyond reasonable proportions. Suddenly I can imagine how that classroom discussion could have been even worse than it was. "Daughter, that make-up style of your mother's was the erotic kink our marriage was based on. Please remove it ASAP."
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Post by ohthatone on Oct 9, 2017 12:42:20 GMT
I'm guessing most of the reason Surma took off her makeup is because it probably is silly to wear it in the jungle. but I wonder how much of her decision was Tony based?
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Post by philman on Oct 9, 2017 12:42:49 GMT
This flirting and relationship does seem kind of oddly placed, but then we haven't really seen much of Surma and Eglamore together, and how they treated each other, or how good their relationship really was. Perhaps old Jimmy Jims never gave Surma many compliments, or took any interest in her powers, and Surma is surprised and pleased to be getting nicer attention than before?
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Post by imaginaryfriend on Oct 9, 2017 13:18:48 GMT
This flirting and relationship does seem kind of oddly placed, but then we haven't really seen much of Surma and Eglamore together, and how they treated each other, or how good their relationship really was. Perhaps old Jimmy Jims never gave Surma many compliments, or took any interest in her powers, and Surma is surprised and pleased to be getting nicer attention than before? It may just be that Anthony remarked on her lack of makeup, ergo Surma felt self-conscious and decided to fish for a compliment. And she landed one that did not necessarily reassure her about her appearance at the moment while trumpeting the fact that Anthony always thought of her look as sexy, I might add. Not bad game.
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Post by ctso74 on Oct 9, 2017 13:25:06 GMT
This flirting and relationship does seem kind of oddly placed, but then we haven't really seen much of Surma and Eglamore together, and how they treated each other, or how good their relationship really was. Perhaps old Jimmy Jims never gave Surma many compliments, or took any interest in her powers, and Surma is surprised and pleased to be getting nicer attention than before? I was wondering the same thing. Eggs might be super-focused on his training, and may have been for some time. No one can be "stolen away", unless they want to be. And Surma is stealing Tony away from the Court. I wonder what his reasons are. The relationship development seems a little forced and quick. The meat of the chapter may be later, with the reaction of their friends (and Eggs) when they find out. Truth be told, for many it's easy to fall in love, but a lot harder to stay and make it work.
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Post by faiiry on Oct 9, 2017 13:25:11 GMT
Man. We're getting into some major Electra complex themes here now, aren't we. To be perfectly honest, this page plus all the other pages where Anthony comments on his daughter's makeup is...kinda uncomfortable.
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Post by faiiry on Oct 9, 2017 13:35:37 GMT
Something I've noticed is that we're seeing this all from Surma's perspective. But with all the rest of the comic in mind, it has become increasingly obvious to me that Tony's perspective is the interesting one. I guess Anja, who is telling the story, wouldn't know anything about Tony's feelings, though.
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Post by novia on Oct 9, 2017 13:59:10 GMT
Actually, I think he wants his daughter to NOT be sexy. Let's not Trump things up beyond reasonable proportions. Suddenly I can imagine how that classroom discussion could have been even worse than it was. "Daughter, that make-up style of your mother's was the erotic kink our marriage was based on. Please remove it ASAP." click to see the full sized version:
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Post by faiiry on Oct 9, 2017 14:39:25 GMT
Evidence here: -Annie always wears the same makeup, even in the woods. It's constantly made note of by other characters. (Kat, indirectly Jones, the elves.) She's kind of obsessed with her look, to the point where being told to remove her makeup represents a stripping of her identity. -Surma, her mother, wore the same makeup. -Tony hates Annie wearing the makeup because it reminds him of Surma. -As we've learned today, Tony thinks the makeup is sexy. (Or maybe the lack of makeup. Not quite clear on this.)
All this is adding up to a pretty creepy portrait of familial relations, if you ask me. I mean... Ew.
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Post by gunnerscrag on Oct 9, 2017 15:10:49 GMT
Pushing aside all the Ew comments...
Either we have understimated Tony's lack of understanding of social norms, because you do not flirt with a friend's (or acquaintance in Jimmy Jims case) girlfriend...
Or Surma and Mr Egg werent dating. They could have had a two sided crush but neither made another move (Surma with the Medium stuff, Eglamore even busier with training) other than going out with their friends to do stuff.
(Being honest though with so many cuck memes on the internet I really dont want GC to fall into a cheating for the plot category)
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Post by yinglung on Oct 9, 2017 15:11:23 GMT
I'm getting the feeling that people are letting their dislike of Anthony color their interpretations here. Why is Tony not wanting to be reminded of Surma when he looks at Annie somehow evidence that he has incestuous feelings? Or even if you take the interpretation that makeup is Tony's kink, him being weired out enough by his daughter wearing makeup to tell her to stop is evidence that he does not want to see his daughter be kinky. Pushing aside all the Ew comments... Either we have understimated Tony's lack of understanding of social norms, because you do not flirt with a friend's (or acquaintance in Jimmy Jims case) girlfriend... Or Surma and Mr Egg werent dating. They could have had a two sided crush but neither made another move (Surma with the Medium stuff, Eglamore even busier with training) other than going out with their friends to do stuff. (Being honest though with so many cuck memes on the internet I really dont want GC to fall into a cheating for the plot category) It could even be that Tony is sufficiently blunt/socially inept that he didn't mean the "always found it sexy" comment as flirting. He could just be seriously answering her question, using his own perspective as an example.
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Post by novia on Oct 9, 2017 15:20:07 GMT
-As we've learned today, Tony thinks the makeup is sexy. (Or maybe the lack of makeup. Not quite clear on this.) GUYS! This page does not imply ew! Antimony has no idea about what her dad is into, she just wants to look like her mom because she loved her and she misses her. Stop reading so much into this! AND ALSO, it is 100% clear that Tony is telling Surma that he has always thought the makeup was sexy, there is no room for misinterpretation here. The thing where Tony told Antimony to take off the makeup was most likely him thinking his daughter was trying to be sexy, and that it was inappropriate for someone her age. He was most likely oblivious to the fact that Antimony was just trying to be like her mom. While it is a little creepy for dads to be policing their daughters' sexuality, it is not out of the norm by any means.
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Post by jda on Oct 9, 2017 15:28:57 GMT
And soon we're going to learn that Tom's real cunning plot was to merchandise his (secret) makeup line. Ps: Ggle ads soon are gonna show me makeup promos...
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Post by pyradonis on Oct 9, 2017 15:33:10 GMT
I'm getting the feeling that people are letting their dislike of Anthony color their interpretations here. Why is Tony not wanting to be reminded of Surma when he looks at Annie somehow evidence that he has incestuous feelings? Or even if you take the interpretation that makeup is Tony's kink, him being weired out enough by his daughter wearing makeup to tell her to stop is evidence that he does not want to see his daughter be kinky. Pushing aside all the Ew comments... Either we have understimated Tony's lack of understanding of social norms, because you do not flirt with a friend's (or acquaintance in Jimmy Jims case) girlfriend... Or Surma and Mr Egg werent dating. They could have had a two sided crush but neither made another move (Surma with the Medium stuff, Eglamore even busier with training) other than going out with their friends to do stuff. (Being honest though with so many cuck memes on the internet I really dont want GC to fall into a cheating for the plot category) It could even be that Tony is sufficiently blunt/socially inept that he didn't mean the "always found it sexy" comment as flirting. He could just be seriously answering her question, using his own perspective as an example. What yinglung said.
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Post by philman on Oct 9, 2017 15:43:19 GMT
Either we have understimated Tony's lack of understanding of social norms, because you do not flirt with a friend's (or acquaintance in Jimmy Jims case) girlfriend... Or Surma and Mr Egg werent dating. They could have had a two sided crush but neither made another move (Surma with the Medium stuff, Eglamore even busier with training) other than going out with their friends to do stuff. (Being honest though with so many cuck memes on the internet I really dont want GC to fall into a cheating for the plot category) I think it was made clear in previous flashbacks that Surma and Eglamore were dating, although don't have time now to find specific references. It is hardly uncommon for people to develop feelings for someone while dating someone else and leave their current partner for them. Heck, my mum left her previous partner for my dad and they have been married 35 years now, so it obviously works out sometimes! And to be honest I don't know if Tony is even capable of flirting intentionally. I think he is just showing a side of himself that Surma hasn't seen before, and something about it attracts her more than Jimmy Jims. As I said, we don't really have much inkling how their relationship was like, although we already know that Surma never liked Jones and how close she was to Eglamore.
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