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Post by ST13R on Sept 6, 2017 7:06:53 GMT
That face ...  those eye ... also, what's that around his neck down left? He seems to be wearing his shirt in the panel before that.his neck is angled forward and I need glasses. (Oh wait, I already have those..)
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Post by freeformline on Sept 6, 2017 7:21:01 GMT
That face ... those eye ... also, what's that around his neck down left? He seems to be wearing his shirt in the panel before that. I think that's just poor contrast making it hard to see that it's just his neck and left shoulder rather than some sort of odd collar or neck tie. |
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Post by erunion on Sept 6, 2017 7:23:37 GMT
Ok, that is a grade A face.
The real question is this - did he do it for his own amusement, or because he figured she'd peek?
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Post by Fhqwhgads on Sept 6, 2017 7:24:32 GMT
Hang on, is he making that face on purpose IRL or is this something that's only happening in the Ether? If the latter, that is soooooooper creepy  |
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Post by artezzatrigger on Sept 6, 2017 7:32:12 GMT
Hang on, is he making that face on purpose IRL or is this something that's only happening in the Ether? If the latter, that is soooooooper creepy He's grey, so I'm guessing it's something he's physically doing. |
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Post by ST13R on Sept 6, 2017 7:56:23 GMT
-snip- also, what's that around his neck down left? He seems to be wearing his shirt in the panel before that. I think that's just poor contrast making it hard to see that it's just his neck and left shoulder rather than some sort of odd collar or neck tie. Ohhh, wait, his neck is tilted forward more than I thought, yes.  thanks. |
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Post by noone3 on Sept 6, 2017 9:21:46 GMT
It is his war face!  |
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Post by saardvark on Sept 6, 2017 11:58:43 GMT
More smoke than fire... Surma's muddled concentration means her ether-hair is only billowy red smoke rather than the flames of full-on fire elemental ignition, I guess. And at another level, Tom indicating her heart's fire for Tony hasn't fully ignited yet(?)
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Post by Fishy on Sept 6, 2017 12:08:01 GMT
Tom intends to use this page to make us think this is a one-off occurrence. In reality Tony makes that face literally every moment he hasn't been in panel.
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Post by zaferion on Sept 6, 2017 12:30:12 GMT
More smoke than fire... Surma's muddled concentration means her ether-hair is only billowy red smoke rather than the flames of full-on fire elemental ignition, I guess. And at another level, Tom indicating her heart's fire for Tony hasn't fully ignited yet(?) The smoke-hair might also symbolize her tricky nature. "Smoke and mirrors" type thing, ya know? |
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Post by saardvark on Sept 6, 2017 13:02:37 GMT
Tony's demento-face might have been a test of Surma's ether abilities... or maybe he just wanted to give her a laugh.
I have to say Surma;s somewhat unruly poof-explosion of red hair works quite naturally as red smoke in the ether... just as Annie's straight hair flows well into her more direct, focussed fire. I wonder if all fire-elemental hosts are red-heads?
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Post by pyradonis on Sept 6, 2017 13:08:58 GMT
Well, I love Surma's ether-hair. So different from Annie's or Anja's but still familiar!
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Post by faiiry on Sept 6, 2017 13:10:00 GMT
...I really don't get it. What is meant to be happening? Is Tony making some sort of face or is he just ugly in the ether?
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Post by pyradonis on Sept 6, 2017 13:11:38 GMT
Tony's demento-face might have been a test of Surma's ether abilities... or maybe he just wanted to give her a laugh. I have to say Surma;s somewhat unruly poof-explosion of red hair works quite naturally as red smoke in the ether... just as Annie's straight hair flows well into her more direct, focussed fire. I wonder if all fire-elemental hosts are red-heads? I guess they are, since Tom said, Annie's hair colour is not a normally occuring colour. I further guess part water elementals have blue hair, part air elementals...hm, maybe white, like Tea-san? And part earth elementals are totally inconspicious brunettes. |
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Post by Zox Tomana on Sept 6, 2017 13:15:05 GMT
...I really don't get it. What is meant to be happening? Is Tony making some sort of face or is he just ugly in the ether? Tony is making a face, probably to troll Surma with. Note that he's grey, so this isn't an ether form or an etheric quality. Such things show up as color. |
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Post by pyradonis on Sept 6, 2017 13:17:34 GMT
...I really don't get it. What is meant to be happening? Is Tony making some sort of face or is he just ugly in the ether? Since every non-ether-sensitive person so far has been shown looking in the ether just as they look physically, only grey, I'm pretty sure, Tony is just making a grimace to test if she is spying on him. Mayyybe amplified by the ether. |
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Post by ctso74 on Sept 6, 2017 13:27:34 GMT
Be careful making that face, Carver. It could stick that way, or some scared equivalent in the far future.
I like Ether smoke hair. It makes me wonder, if Surma can make smoke manifest in ways Annie can't. Maybe, Annie would strain to make smoke, in the way Surma seems to strain to make fire.
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Post by ohthatone on Sept 6, 2017 13:45:39 GMT
Is that some kind of face, Carver?
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Post by jda on Sept 6, 2017 14:36:45 GMT
Carvers: Masters of disguise
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Post by fish on Sept 6, 2017 14:53:38 GMT
I've always wondered how Tom would render Surma's hair in the ether. It looks super cool! I wonder if the "more smoke than fire" comment is supposed to hint at Surma's skill level, like we discussed on previous pages.
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Post by gunnerscrag on Sept 6, 2017 15:13:20 GMT
Well, Tony is an oni.
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Post by Nepycros on Sept 6, 2017 17:37:07 GMT
I wonder if hairstyles for fire elementals are determined for life. Surma's always had poofy hair, while Annie's always had straight. If someone had wavy hair, would their ether transition look more like flowing lava?
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Post by ST13R on Sept 6, 2017 19:06:59 GMT
I wonder if hairstyles for fire elementals are determined for life. Surma's always had poofy hair, while Annie's always had straight. If someone had wavy hair, would their ether transition look more like flowing lava? I bet Annie would look great with a perm.
Oh man, I'm only now realizing Scissorbot doesn't even have eyes o__o. |
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Post by warrl on Sept 6, 2017 22:39:41 GMT
It appears to me that Annie has a lot more control over - and therefore probably a lot more practice with - her fire than her mother has in this flashback, even though apparently her mother is considerably older.
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Post by Grabix on Sept 6, 2017 23:07:20 GMT
I wonder if all fire-elemental hosts are red-heads? Hottest of them have blue-violet hairs  |
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Post by gunnerscrag on Sept 7, 2017 0:18:30 GMT
I wonder if hairstyles for fire elementals are determined for life. Surma's always had poofy hair, while Annie's always had straight. If someone had wavy hair, would their ether transition look more like flowing lava? I think they difference here is that, while Annie had a better grasp of her powers from a younger age, Surma is relatively old compared to that and unable to do more than light a dried leaf. So maybe her hair is symbolic of smoke rather than flames? Tom himself says specifically smoke in the comment below. |
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Post by fia on Sept 7, 2017 0:23:15 GMT
I wonder if hairstyles for fire elementals are determined for life. Surma's always had poofy hair, while Annie's always had straight. If someone had wavy hair, would their ether transition look more like flowing lava? I like this idea; or a related idea, that perhaps fire elementals don't all have the same sorts of fire powers. I mean, fire is related with lots of stuff, like smoke, but also heat, energy, light, pyrotechnics, etc. Although I guess most of what I can find in terms of smoke pyrotechnics involves phosphorus, so maybe that's misleading? I just looked up oxides of antimony and I found out that Antimony (III) Oxide can be generated, with sulfur dioxide gas as a byproduct, in furnaces from Stibnite. Interestingly, when heated with carbon, the Antimony trioxide can be reduced to antimony metal. I'm going to go out on a Wildspec limb and suggest that maybe Tony represents the Carbon element, and this explains Antimony? |
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Post by Elaienar on Sept 7, 2017 2:05:37 GMT
"More smoke than fire" makes me wonder if Surma's being smothered. 'Cause that reduces flames and increases smoke, right?
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Post by Zox Tomana on Sept 7, 2017 4:42:13 GMT
I wonder if hairstyles for fire elementals are determined for life. Surma's always had poofy hair, while Annie's always had straight. If someone had wavy hair, would their ether transition look more like flowing lava? I like this idea; or a related idea, that perhaps fire elementals don't all have the same sorts of fire powers. I mean, fire is related with lots of stuff, like smoke, but also heat, energy, light, pyrotechnics, etc. Although I guess most of what I can find in terms of smoke pyrotechnics involves phosphorus, so maybe that's misleading? I just looked up oxides of antimony and I found out that Antimony (III) Oxide can be generated, with sulfur dioxide gas as a byproduct, in furnaces from Stibnite. Interestingly, when heated with carbon, the Antimony trioxide can be reduced to antimony metal. I'm going to go out on a Wildspec limb and suggest that maybe Tony represents the Carbon element, and this explains Antimony? I'd pin Tony more for a Noble Gas than Carbon: the great whore of the periodic table, bonding with anything and everything in all manner of ways to such a degree that it has its own, personal branch of chemistry. Nobel Gases can react with things, but only under specific conditions, much like Tony isn't very open and out there except under special circumstances. |
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Post by turion on Sept 7, 2017 10:34:20 GMT
Tom intends to use this page to make us think this is a one-off occurrence. In reality Tony makes that face literally every moment he hasn't been in panel. I must reread the comic now with this in mind. |
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