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Post by Zox Tomana on Sept 1, 2017 7:24:48 GMT
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Post by Nepycros on Sept 1, 2017 7:25:43 GMT
Don't do it, Surma! Don't let him science on you!
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Post by faiiry on Sept 1, 2017 7:26:30 GMT
Tony seems to be aiming to lose his hand some 20 years ahead of schedule. The hallmark of his character: he doesn't give a rat's behind about his hands. Also he hates leaves.
Who wants to bet that this chapter involves Tony and Surma desperately trying to put out a forest fire they started?
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Post by philman on Sept 1, 2017 8:10:30 GMT
Yes Tony. Asking Surma to set fire to dry leaves in a forest is a great idea.
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Post by arf on Sept 1, 2017 10:05:04 GMT
Yes Tony. Asking Surma to set fire to dry leaves in a forest is a great idea. Shades of A Ghost Story. |
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Post by crater on Sept 1, 2017 11:31:40 GMT
gets a letter from the court and all the sudden becomes interested in surma's power makes you go HMMMMMMMMMMMMMM
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Post by saardvark on Sept 1, 2017 12:08:07 GMT
odd, and perhaps interesting, is that Surma, here certainly a few years older here than Annie is now, only claims to have "a little" control over her fire elemental side. Annie, years earlier than Surma here, has already taken on moss giants and a small army of Seraphs. It would seem Annie is a bit of a prodigy in terms her fire abilities.
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Post by Per on Sept 1, 2017 12:29:42 GMT
It would seem Annie is a bit of a prodigy in terms her fire abilities. Even fear addicted, danger illustrated. |
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Post by ctso74 on Sept 1, 2017 13:19:33 GMT
The next comic frame is Surma and Tony standing in front of a raging jungle fire.
Tony: "Well... that could have gone better."
Surma: "..."
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Post by gunnerscrag on Sept 1, 2017 13:52:44 GMT
odd, and perhaps interesting, is that Surma, here certainly a few years older here than Annie is now, only claims to have "a little" control over her fire elemental side. Annie, years earlier than Surma here, has already taken on moss giants and a small army of Seraphs. It would seem Annie is a bit of a prodigy in terms her fire abilities. The key element(al) here might be that, while Surma mostly used her abilities within the forest, it was as the Court's Medium, and with different goals in mind. She was to trick Renard, and by then could make herself float above ground (granted, etheric powers =/= specific control over fire). She hung out the most with Renard in an attempt to get him away from the Forest, her interactions with Coyote were as a storyteller at best (a very good, very missed one), and as far as Ysengrin... the guy was as fond of Tony as Eggers, apparently, just judging by the way he treated hus sweater and immediately assuming he had a part in the mechanic intoxication of the cliffside. Annie, on the other hand, uas had both more opportunities to learn about her powers and need to use them. While Anja taught her the basics through the blinker stone, Ysengrin personally instructed her into getting a better understanding of combat-based skills as part of learning how to be the Forest's medium. Coyote also taught her how to move things in the ether personally (like he could or not have done with Surma) but she was still much younger than her mother when she learned. TL;DR: Annie got too many buffs last season pls nerf |
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Post by Gotolei on Sept 1, 2017 13:56:19 GMT
odd, and perhaps interesting, is that Surma, here certainly a few years older here than Annie is now, only claims to have "a little" control over her fire elemental side. Annie, years earlier than Surma here, has already taken on moss giants and a small army of Seraphs. It would seem Annie is a bit of a prodigy in terms her fire abilities. For what it's worth, it doesn't look like Surma had a blinker stone to kickstart her progress. Annie does seem to have had a crazy amount of control over it from a really young age (how old was she in Residential with that fake forest fire, 12? 13?) but until relatively recently that was always with the help of a "children's toy." |
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Post by csj on Sept 1, 2017 14:20:14 GMT
"Ok, Agent Scully." (At least, that's what she might say were it not for being probably anachronistic)odd, and perhaps interesting, is that Surma, here certainly a few years older here than Annie is now, only claims to have "a little" control over her fire elemental side. Annie, years earlier than Surma here, has already taken on moss giants and a small army of Seraphs. It would seem Annie is a bit of a prodigy in terms her fire abilities. I suspect she's being modest until the next-page reveal. |
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Post by pyradonis on Sept 1, 2017 15:26:40 GMT
Tony seems to be aiming to lose his hand some 20 years ahead of schedule. The hallmark of his character: he doesn't give a rat's behind about his hands. Also he hates leaves. Who wants to bet that this chapter involves Tony and Surma desperately trying to put out a forest fire they started? Nothing to bond over like fighting a forest fire you started together! D'awww! Seriously, Tony should know that ONLY HE CAN PREVENT FOREST FIRES! |
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Post by Per on Sept 1, 2017 15:36:23 GMT
Just because you said that I feel compelled to relate that a dream of mine last night featured brief appearances by Scully as well as Coyote, Annie and Kat, none of which happens with any regularity at all. |
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Post by TBeholder on Sept 1, 2017 15:58:34 GMT
Whoa. This gone so far so fast. I'm more puzzled as to why this spot was chosen now. :_]_ odd, and perhaps interesting, is that Surma, here certainly a few years older here than Annie is now, only claims to have "a little" control over her fire elemental side. Annie, years earlier than Surma here, has already taken on moss giants and a small army of Seraphs. It would seem Annie is a bit of a prodigy in terms her fire abilities. This didn't involve much control. Other than aiming. |
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Post by fia on Sept 1, 2017 16:44:17 GMT
Surma may think she is lighting a small leaf on fire, but really she is sparking a smouldering conflagration in Tony's heart.
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Post by saardvark on Sept 1, 2017 16:46:01 GMT
odd, and perhaps interesting, is that Surma, here certainly a few years older here than Annie is now, only claims to have "a little" control over her fire elemental side. Annie, years earlier than Surma here, has already taken on moss giants and a small army of Seraphs. It would seem Annie is a bit of a prodigy in terms her fire abilities. This didn't involve much control. Other than aiming. she could also turn it off quickly, so she didn't burn rabbit-boy. To hit the ether siphons at a distance, she would have to form and confine the fireball (or stream) to a small volume at a considerable distance. so she seems to have some decent level of control... on the other hand, as csj noted, Surma may just being modest. So I may have spoke too soon... we'll see what Surma can do shortly, I suppose. |
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Post by saardvark on Sept 1, 2017 16:47:59 GMT
Surma may think she is lighting a small leaf on fire, but really she is sparking a smouldering conflagration in Tony's heart. a bit like Anja's magic set Donny's heart tingling? |
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Post by Trillium on Sept 1, 2017 17:03:39 GMT
Surma may think she is lighting a small leaf on fire, but really she is sparking a smouldering conflagration in Tony's heart. a bit like Anja's magic set Donny's heart tingling? Surma starts a fire and Tony sees her in a brand new light. |
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Post by Zox Tomana on Sept 1, 2017 17:07:43 GMT
Surma may think she is lighting a small leaf on fire, but really she is sparking a smouldering conflagration in Tony's heart. A red, orange, yellow flicker beat, perhaps? a bit like Anja's magic set Donny's heart tingling? Surma starts a fire and Tony sees her in a brand new light. ba-dum tish! Nice that we get to see how things in their relationship start to heat up, though. |
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Post by zaferion on Sept 1, 2017 17:45:16 GMT
I guess I never really considered that Annie's etheric abilities might be different than her mother's. If Surma can fly/float (while Annie hasn't shown the ability to), what else might her skill set contain?
At a guess, Surma's powers might be more fine tuned and precise and more purely ether-based (i.e. only a little fire as she just said), while Annie is more suited to flashy displays of power.
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Post by Zox Tomana on Sept 1, 2017 17:51:35 GMT
I guess I never really considered that Annie's etheric abilities might be different than her mother's. If Surma can fly/float (while Annie hasn't shown the ability to), what else might her skill set contain? At a guess, Surma's powers might be more fine tuned and precise and more purely ether-based (i.e. only a little fire as she just said), while Annie is more suited to flashy displays of power. Different focuses, I would guess. Annie's first experience with the blinker stone was the production of flame, and she didn't learn to move stuff etherically until Coyote taught her. When he did teacher he, he said he'd eventually be able to lift her body, so I doubt that it's a difference of potential so much as a difference of practiced abilities. |
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Post by pyradonis on Sept 1, 2017 17:56:36 GMT
Surma starts a fire and Tony sees her in a brand new light. ba-dum tish! Nice that we get to see how things in their relationship start to heat up, though. 3..2..1..Ignition! |
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Post by rosencrantz on Sept 1, 2017 18:53:30 GMT
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Post by Runningflame on Sept 2, 2017 16:37:27 GMT
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Post by saardvark on Sept 2, 2017 16:44:28 GMT
on the other hand, fire-elemental fire can apparently be controlled so as to not actually burn anything - vis www.gunnerkrigg.com/?p=626www.gunnerkrigg.com/?p=627or less dramatic cases, when Annie uses it as a makeshift torch in her hand, or a non-igniting campfire in the same chapter. (Further examples of the control Annie has over her fire; we'll see what Surma knows shortly, perhaps!) |
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Post by faiiry on Sept 2, 2017 16:46:00 GMT
Didn't the blinker stone help Annie control her own powers? That might explain why Surma can control her fire "only a little," since Surma (as far as we know) never had one. Let's also consider the possibility that Surma is lying or being humble when she says "a little."
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Post by fish on Sept 2, 2017 19:45:36 GMT
Didn't the blinker stone help Annie control her own powers? That might explain why Surma can control her fire "only a little," since Surma (as far as we know) never had one. Let's also consider the possibility that Surma is lying or being humble when she says "a little." For reference: Word of TomTom also said that the fire passed down from generation to generation does not get weaker but becomes harder to find. From these answeres I always got the feeling that Surma didn't need a blinker stone and could access her elemental powers a bit easier than Annie. But maybe she just wasn't lucky enough to get one and had to work more to get to Annie's point. Remember what a hard time Annie had accessing the ether once her blinker stone was broken. Maybe that's what it was like for Surma from the beginning, so she's modest right now because she hasn't quite overcome her learning curve and can't do anything great, yet. Or maybe she'll display some awesome shit next page and give Tony twinkling "must. dissect. right now."-eyes. |
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Post by pyradonis on Sept 2, 2017 21:02:45 GMT
Or maybe she'll display some awesome shit next page and give Tony twinkling "must. dissect. right now."-eyes. A true scientist. <3 |
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Post by Zox Tomana on Sept 2, 2017 21:08:19 GMT
Or maybe she'll display some awesome shit next page and give Tony twinkling "must. dissect. right now."-eyes. A true scientist. <3 Maybe not dissection... perhaps a bit of probing? |
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