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Post by Timberwere on Aug 23, 2017 7:18:49 GMT
And everything in here.That backpack's got to be heavy. But where is Tony's own backpack that he is wearing in the last panel? Out of screen, probably.
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Post by arf on Aug 23, 2017 7:24:59 GMT
That hat looks familiar...
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Post by keef on Aug 23, 2017 7:26:26 GMT
Nice hat, nice landscape, beautiful chapter.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 23, 2017 7:47:05 GMT
Nice hat, nice landscape, beautiful chapter. It even had a monster truck!! (‽)
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Post by Nnelg on Aug 23, 2017 7:54:06 GMT
It's dangerous to go alone!
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Post by Trism on Aug 23, 2017 8:07:01 GMT
Isn't the point of this trip NOT to repel insects?
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Post by artezzatrigger on Aug 23, 2017 8:18:00 GMT
Isn't the point of this trip NOT to repel insects? Yeah, but it doesn't mean letting them land all over you to get bitey.
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Post by faiiry on Aug 23, 2017 13:01:18 GMT
Tony gave Surma a hat. Tony is not wearing a hat. Conclusion: Tony gave Surma the hat because he thought it would complement her cheekbones nicely.
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Post by ctso74 on Aug 23, 2017 13:17:25 GMT
Unbeknownst to us, Tony's been trying to find insects attracted to the Datura stramonium giganticus. He's been wearing that hat and flaying around, like the enormous white flower does in the breeze. He was hoping Surma would have better luck, and the bug repellent is actually concentrated nectar.
The water is just water. You've got to stay hydrated.
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Post by saardvark on Aug 23, 2017 13:22:13 GMT
Tony gave Surma a hat. Tony is not wearing a hat. Conclusion: Tony gave Surma the hat because he thought it would complement her cheekbones nicely. the hat is super-effective!
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Post by imaginaryfriend on Aug 23, 2017 13:22:23 GMT
I wonder if that's a shower hut or an outhouse in panel 1. Knowing the Court I'd assume the former but this cabin might be rented, or "roughing it" may be part of the learning that this trip includes, or perhaps the cabin is just so unimportant that they didn't bother with/budget for internal plumbing. If it's a shower hut, that's a romance trope gold mine.
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Post by saardvark on Aug 23, 2017 13:32:50 GMT
As the Forest medium, Surma will likely appreciate the stunning natural beauty of the place ...
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Post by Trillium on Aug 23, 2017 14:08:09 GMT
Tony is wearing a knapsack in the last panel. Hopefully Surma's bag is lighter than it looks. Perhaps it is half full of empty traps and specimen containers.
Tony is avoiding hat hair.
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Post by Zox Tomana on Aug 23, 2017 14:18:12 GMT
It's dangerous to go alone! Take all the things!
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Post by Per on Aug 23, 2017 14:36:53 GMT
Knowing the Court I'd assume the former but this cabin might be rented The hi-tech tower trying to sneak up behind the cabin in 1870 suggests to me it's not. While I'm posting, I'll say I also like this chapter with slice-of-lifeness, low plot stakes, 20,000% increase in Surma reaction shots/avatar material, and lots of new visuals from Tom.
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Post by Runningflame on Aug 23, 2017 15:08:46 GMT
[jaw drops] Last panel: new heights of pure gorgeousness.
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Post by fia on Aug 23, 2017 15:46:23 GMT
I wonder if they will get a nice tan.
PSA: Wear sunscreen outdoors, kids!
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Post by saardvark on Aug 23, 2017 16:26:33 GMT
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Post by tortoise on Aug 23, 2017 17:40:30 GMT
You know what, it's so interesting that Tony looks so uncomfortable and stuffy when he's in the court, but becomes a total stud when he gets out in nature and can untuck things a little bit.
I think this is where Annie gets her love of nature and propensity to get messy; Surma seems a lot more put-together even with her fiery temper and loud personality. Surma likes to be pretty and has a lot of heat to her, but Tony is the one who gets banged-up and covered in bugs and blood.
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Post by TBeholder on Aug 23, 2017 17:56:17 GMT
What truck? It's small. Isn't the point of this trip NOT to repel insects? The point of a trip in such a place that isn't one way is to not become a bug bait. In addition to anything else.
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Post by aline on Aug 23, 2017 18:50:32 GMT
I wonder if that's a shower hut or an outhouse in panel 1. Knowing the Court I'd assume the former but this cabin might be rented, or "roughing it" may be part of the learning that this trip includes, or perhaps the cabin is just so unimportant that they didn't bother with/budget for internal plumbing. If it's a shower hut, that's a romance trope gold mine. It's an isolated cabin in the middle of the rainforest, which is probably uninhabited most of the time. You don't add plumbing in a setting like that. It's expensive, horrible to maintain and generally a terrible idea. Instead you dig a nice deep hole and add wooden panels all 'round it, and a bucket with ashes in it. You do similar things for the shower, except without the hole and with water inside the bucket. Electrics are easier, with some solar panels you're usually sorted out, or a generator if you can afford the fuel and don't mind polluting the landscape.
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Post by Deepbluediver on Aug 23, 2017 19:26:42 GMT
Tony is always prepared.
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Post by keef on Aug 23, 2017 19:47:37 GMT
Nice hat, nice landscape, beautiful chapter. It even had a monster truck!! (‽) Now we wait 50 more chapters for the electric guitars .
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Post by imaginaryfriend on Aug 23, 2017 21:46:19 GMT
It's an isolated cabin in the middle of the rainforest, which is probably uninhabited most of the time. You don't add plumbing in a setting like that. It's expensive, horrible to maintain and generally a terrible idea. Instead you dig a nice deep hole and add wooden panels all 'round it, and a bucket with ashes in it. You do similar things for the shower, except without the hole and with water inside the bucket. Electrics are easier, with some solar panels you're usually sorted out, or a generator if you can afford the fuel and don't mind polluting the landscape. They've got a sink, a stove, lights, and I think that cabinet-looking thing is a fridge (if not, I'll bet it's a dry-goods pantry). So we know they've got power one way or another. [see panel #1 and the last panel on the previous page] Assuming the water table's amenable, getting a well drilled might run a couple grand (in USD) maybe more if there are absolutely no communities anywhere nearby. An above-ground septic tank itself for a remote cabin like that wouldn't cost that much. I was pricing units for a relative about a decade back and I think I was looking at (for septic only, for 4-6 person occupancy) $15-17k including permits, installation, and leeching field, not including remote-area shipping and fittings. They got here by vehicle so we're not talking air-dropping the whole kit, just hauling it. Sure, the septic would have to be maintained but that would only require one visit per month or so and you'd have to have someone or some thing robotic visiting periodically to cut the jungle back anyway. As for showers if they don't have a well or water tank it might be a lo-tek solar-heated portable, they've had those ever since I was a kid. They can be as simple as a black lister bag that you manually take down to refill; the sun heats up the water surprisingly well. The only plumbing involved with that (if you're using it in a permanent or semi-permanent setting instead of hanging it from a tree branch with some rope, privacy curtain optional) would be some pvc connecting the bag on the outside of the shower hut (positioned where it can catch sunlight easily) to the tap and shower head. Anyone can do that with a hacksaw and some sealing tape if they've got the right parts. And 100lbs of sand, a shovel, and some sweat will get you a permanent sump that you can build the shower hut over. That's why I think the real question is how often the Court uses this installation. The Court school is a private legacy school with all the cash but if they don't need a permanent presence here then they might just be renting it and that tower (see below) might just be a temporary modular setup they take from research station to research station. But this place might also be a vacation cabin for the muckety-mucks, or even a safehouse, and if so would have all the comforts. Knowing the Court I'd assume the former but this cabin might be rented The hi-tech tower trying to sneak up behind the cabin in 1870 suggests to me it's not. That thing looks like a satellite uplink, relay, and weather station. It might be modular; usually a permanent radio shack of this era would be a bit bigger than that looks so that people can go inside to tend to the equipment. But I'm basing that on the notion that the access is too small to be a door, and it might be farther back than I think. I'm withholding judgement until we get a better look (except for the assumption that it can also do remote asset-tracking which was pretty tricky back then).
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Post by dramastix on Aug 24, 2017 1:45:03 GMT
Sudden flashes of Tony pushing Surma 'cos she said not to go easy on her, and she gets insanely frustrated at first but eventually grows and learns and appreciates that Tony had high standards, then cut back to the Court and an over-protective James.... cue the romantic friction. Or at least that's how I think it'll play out.
Or they literally get lost in the jungle and adrenaline-fueled romantic hijinks ensue. Maybe Donny was supposed to be the navigator.
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Post by davidm on Aug 24, 2017 1:50:09 GMT
I wonder if that's a shower hut or an outhouse in panel 1. Knowing the Court I'd assume the former but this cabin might be rented, or "roughing it" may be part of the learning that this trip includes, or perhaps the cabin is just so unimportant that they didn't bother with/budget for internal plumbing. If it's a shower hut, that's a romance trope gold mine. It's an isolated cabin in the middle of the rainforest, which is probably uninhabited most of the time. You don't add plumbing in a setting like that. It's expensive, horrible to maintain and generally a terrible idea. Instead you dig a nice deep hole and add wooden panels all 'round it, and a bucket with ashes in it. You do similar things for the shower, except without the hole and with water inside the bucket. Electrics are easier, with some solar panels you're usually sorted out, or a generator if you can afford the fuel and don't mind polluting the landscape. It isn't that hard to add "plumbing" similar to an RV... you can catch rainwater in a tank near roof of cabin, you already have electric power for dish (solar?) so not that hard to run a small water pump, can put water tank near roof and run pump only when sun/solar power to save on batteries. Water tank feeds shower and washing sink and toilet, waste water is separated into black water (toilet) and grey water (everything else), the grey water you can just dump, the black water you hold 14 days+ in 2 different tanks in series before dumping further away (little longer pipe). Hot water can simply be a black painted water tank on roof that only gets hot when sun shines on it, you are in rainforest so room temp showers might feel the best much of time. Low flush toilet can be 6 litres, so can get 150+ flushes into cheap 1000 plastic tote. (One can set up the whole thing for less than $1000+ equipment, +shipping, +install labor, a potentially small cost compared to all the other expenses and having a supply of rain water and better sanitation can save time and reduce risks of bad health)
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Post by imaginaryfriend on Aug 24, 2017 2:59:41 GMT
Low flush toilet can be 6 litres, so can get 150+ flushes into cheap 1000 plastic tote. If water's limited there's also this. I wound up installing it for my relatives since they weren't on municipal water but were on the grid, and it would cost a lot less than conventional septic (except for those systems that are just a tank that requires pumping out) but they were not happy with it. Not sure if those guys solved the problem since then but the blower assembly turned out to be vulnerable to saltwater air corrosion and became useless within two years, needed replacing. And then the relatives decided that I should order, pay for and install it for them since that was somehow my fault in the saving of more than $8k for them. I told them no.
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Post by tc on Aug 24, 2017 6:15:01 GMT
Again we see Tony providing Surma with the tools to start tackling things on her own, in contrast to Jimmy - who is always off training to combat the bad stuff on his own (and this isn't the first time we've seen Surma uncertain about her feelings that he does so)...
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Post by Timberwere on Aug 24, 2017 7:29:10 GMT
You know what, it's so interesting that Tony looks so uncomfortable and stuffy when he's in the court, but becomes a total stud when he gets out in nature and can untuck things a little bit. I think this is where Annie gets her love of nature and propensity to get messy; Surma seems a lot more put-together even with her fiery temper and loud personality. Surma likes to be pretty and has a lot of heat to her, but Tony is the one who gets banged-up and covered in bugs and blood. Tony has always (well, at least once) been depicted as an uptight when in civilization, but totally at home out in the wilds kind of guy. And I must say, I like Outdoors Tony.
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Post by tc on Aug 24, 2017 8:04:17 GMT
Tony has always (well, at least once) been depicted as an uptight when in civilization... Here's a question I find interesting... We know that following the events of the current chapter Tony and Surma fall in love (and eventually decide to try for a baby, the result being Annie). We can also assume that the growth and changes in Surma's character we see between the S1 flashback and later events were catalysed by the events of this story and falling in love with Tony. But because Surma's pregnancy seems to have happened relatively soon after these events (and Surma was adamant that she, Tony and Annie live away from the Court "campus"), we have no knowledge of the effect Surma's love had on Tony's character development. We know that Tony was somewhat socially awkward as a teenager (recently illustrated by his holding back an instinct to physically comfort Anja) - but we don't know if Surma's effect on Tony might not have "opened him up" a bit confidence-wise, *if* those who knew him before had been around to see it. Unfortunately the next time we encounter him he has experienced not only the guilt of having failed to save Surma, but the even more crippling guilt over almost killing their daughter for the sake of seeing Surma's spirit again. Either one of those would be psychologically damaging enough to cause a reversion to old behaviour patterns...
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