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Post by Daedalus on Jul 17, 2017 7:00:51 GMT
What. The. Heck.Earlier I was worried about Annie's relationship with Kat. Now I'm worried about Annie's sanity. Unless I missed an important chapter somewhere?
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Post by avurai on Jul 17, 2017 7:01:17 GMT
Oh my god.
Wwwwhat the f***?
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Post by avurai on Jul 17, 2017 7:03:04 GMT
What. The. Heck.Earlier I was worried about Annie's relationship with Kat. Now I'm worried about Annie's sanity. Unless I missed an important chapter somewhere? I think we're about to learn more backstory here. Incredibly useful and noteworthy backstory. |
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Post by Nepycros on Jul 17, 2017 7:03:05 GMT
... Oh dear.
Annie has developed an idea that her father is so malicious that he will force other people to like him. This is very destructive behavior. "My mother never really loved him..." That is possibly the most vile and heartless thing she has ever come up with. Especially given how Tony loved Surma so much.
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Post by Daedalus on Jul 17, 2017 7:03:20 GMT
And what's with the faces that Anja is making in Panel 3? Is it possible this is actually accurate?
I doubt it but it's worth considering. But the more likely answer is that Annie's having a nervous breakdown.
Points to Tom for an unexpected direction here, I will admit.
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Post by youwiththeface on Jul 17, 2017 7:07:43 GMT
... Oh dear. Annie has developed an idea that her father is so malicious that he will force other people to like him. This is very destructive behavior. "My mother never really loved him..." That is possibly the most vile and heartless thing she has ever come up with. Especially given how Tony loved Surma so much. Psht. No it's not. Given what having a baby would do to Surma, and her history with Renard, and the fact that she was originally with Jimmy Jims, it's reasonable to question what happened there. What's really interesting is apparently Antimony has had thoughts like this for a while and hasn't verbalized them. I'm curious to see where that's going. |
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Post by wombat on Jul 17, 2017 7:10:00 GMT
I'm not feeling...great about Anthony? But mostly I want to refer Annie to my therapist.
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Post by bedinsis on Jul 17, 2017 7:12:22 GMT
She immediately concluded that there was no way what so ever that they've actually grown fondness of each other, and she could only see her mom and him develop feelings by brainwash.
Annie does not seem to have fond emotions of her father.
They should get some therapy. Seriously.
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Post by Lightice on Jul 17, 2017 7:13:20 GMT
And what's with the faces that Anja is making in Panel 3? Is it possible this is actually accurate? Looks to me that Anja's being concerned for Annie, for believing such a thing. I honestly didn't expect things to take this serious turn; the mood whiplash is disorienting. Looks like this is the chapter where Annie has to face her underlying resentment for her father head on. Hopefully Anja manages to help her with it. |
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Post by arf on Jul 17, 2017 7:14:45 GMT
I ... suppose it *would* explain everything.
At least Annie didn't go to Eglamore.
Anyway, we're all ears Anja. You are the Court's exposition go-to person.
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Post by imaginaryfriend on Jul 17, 2017 7:17:11 GMT
Now I'm worried about Annie's sanity. Unless I missed an important chapter somewhere? You didn't miss any chapters, Antimony did. We the readers know some stuff about how this reversal happened that she doesn't yet. Also Kat has probably been exposed to Anthony on a regular basis at school for some time now; Anthony, being smart, probably earned some respect from Kat on the technical front before meeting up with her outside school. And like I've posted before, Antimony's "brainwashing" theory is much less improbable in the Gunnerverse than it would be in real life. So I think Antimony's current mental state is more like shocked into grasping at straws. Of course, if she ignored or discounted Kat trying to tell her about how this all came to be on the ride over to the Donlans' then it's worse (but still not as unhinged as it would be irl). |
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Post by arf on Jul 17, 2017 7:22:50 GMT
She immediately concluded that there was no way what so ever that they've actually grown fondness of each other, and she could only see her mom and him develop feelings by brainwash. Annie does not seem to have fond emotions of her father. They should get some therapy. Seriously. It's psychosomatic! That girl needs therap- -urely psychosomatic. |
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Post by ctso74 on Jul 17, 2017 7:30:07 GMT
Points to Tom for an unexpected direction here, I will admit. Wow, yeah. I was merely expecting some Tony character development. I'd wager, that we're about to find out, how Surma and Tony ended up together. Mrs Donlan probably knows what happened, or at least spoke with her during it. It seem Annie is going to need some straight-up therapy. I imagine Court students/employees get a discount, or have an entire wing dedicated to them. |
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Post by arf on Jul 17, 2017 7:34:56 GMT
If Kat's been brainwashed, and Surma was brainwashed, then who's to say Anje hasn't been?
(in a nearby apartment, at the end of a showing of "Invasion of the Bodysnatchers", Jones turns to Rudy.
And smiles!)
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Post by The Anarch on Jul 17, 2017 7:40:19 GMT
But no, Annie, tell us how you really feel.
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Post by yarksie on Jul 17, 2017 7:43:57 GMT
I don't know if I like where this is going but I really, REALLY don't want this to be another heartbreak for Annie.
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Post by download on Jul 17, 2017 7:46:20 GMT
I dunno, Annie might be justified in thinking that. Her father is a bastard.
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Post by download on Jul 17, 2017 7:46:41 GMT
He father has continually fucked with her head.
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Post by snowflake on Jul 17, 2017 7:50:18 GMT
"What trickery he must have played to lure her away from me" --Renard
These words have planted a seed, and Annie's reunion with Anthony has sprouted it. And now we'll finally get to learn how the everloving bismuth could someone leave James for Tony.
I am suddenly very excited for this.
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Post by imaginaryfriend on Jul 17, 2017 7:58:30 GMT
"What trickery he must have played to lure her away from me" --Renard These words have planted a seed, and Annie's reunion with Anthony has sprouted it. And now we'll finally get to learn how the everloving bismuth could someone leave James for Tony. I am suddenly very excited for this. My longstanding speculation is that Surma demanded Eggers sever his relationship with Jones and his refusal gave Anthony a window of opportunity to move in (and since Eggers disliked Anthony there's bonus points for spite). Hopefully that theory will be proven or disproved in this chapter. |
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Post by ST13R on Jul 17, 2017 8:03:05 GMT
Plottwist: Surma seduced Anthony much like she did with Renard. /forreals: I do believe there's a page where Surma is annoyed with Jim being away for training all the time? Edit: Yes. Still with short hair. |
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Post by hnau on Jul 17, 2017 8:18:24 GMT
I think we're about to learn more backstory here. Incredibly useful and noteworthy backstory. Probably just more bake story. |
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Post by turion on Jul 17, 2017 8:23:13 GMT
She immediately concluded that there was no way what so ever that they've actually grown fondness of each other, and she could only see her mom and him develop feelings by brainwash. Annie does not seem to have fond emotions of her father. They should get some therapy. Seriously. It's psychosomatic! That girl needs therap- -urely psychosomatic. Lie down on the couch! I bet Kat feels strangely hypnotized. |
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Post by snowflake on Jul 17, 2017 8:28:02 GMT
My longstanding speculation is that Surma demanded Eggers sever his relationship with Jones and his refusal gave Anthony a window of opportunity to move in (and since Eggers disliked Anthony there's bonus points for spite). Hopefully that theory will be proven or disproved in this chapter. Another theory is that Anthony was willing to have a child with Surma when James wouldn't; but frankly, neither theory is looking good right now, since both would leave James knowing exactly why he was dumped. Which we already know he didn't. www.gunnerkrigg.com/?p=1097 |
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Post by imaginaryfriend on Jul 17, 2017 8:58:26 GMT
My longstanding speculation is that Surma demanded Eggers sever his relationship with Jones and his refusal gave Anthony a window of opportunity to move in (and since Eggers disliked Anthony there's bonus points for spite). Hopefully that theory will be proven or disproved in this chapter. Another theory is that Anthony was willing to have a child with Surma when James wouldn't; but frankly, neither theory is looking good right now, since both would leave James knowing exactly why he was dumped. Which we already know he didn't. www.gunnerkrigg.com/?p=1097Those two theories are not mutually exclusive. Also I think comic #1097 just shows that James never got over Surma. |
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Post by Jelly Jellybean on Jul 17, 2017 10:14:27 GMT
I really want to hear about Surma and Anthony, but where is Renard? And what happened to Kat's lab coat? Wait a minute... Kat used the lab coat when she wooed Paz. I don't think we've seen anyone beside Paz wear the lab coat until this chapter. Now Kat wore it and she started liking Tony. Hmmmmm... |
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Post by kefka on Jul 17, 2017 10:33:35 GMT
I don't understand why Annie's acting like that when she saw her father explain his reasons (and regret) for what he did.
Edit: also Anja looks really old in this page.
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Post by faiiry on Jul 17, 2017 11:00:22 GMT
In the last panel for a moment I thought it was Anja saying "That would explain everything." Almost had a mini heart attack.
Anja does look way older. Having your sophisticated android daughter on the direct path to discovering her own origins will do that to a person. Wink wink. Nudge nudge.
Er, remind me again why Annie has reached the conclusion that her father brainwashed her mother? Maybe this was explained before. Edit: although from reading the rest of the thread, I don't think that's the case. We know that Tom writes VERY well ahead, and at the recent Google talk, his words made me think he hasn't gotten to the whole James/Surma/Anthony thing yet, but I really hope he actually has and he's faking us out. I really want to know the juicy drama.
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Post by saardvark on Jul 17, 2017 11:15:57 GMT
And what's with the faces that Anja is making in Panel 3? Is it possible this is actually accurate? Looks to me that Anja's being concerned for Annie, for believing such a thing. I'd say incredulous too, slightly bemused if Annie is joking, but worried what it means if she isn't... |
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Post by saardvark on Jul 17, 2017 11:37:41 GMT
Another theory is that Anthony was willing to have a child with Surma when James wouldn't; but frankly, neither theory is looking good right now, since both would leave James knowing exactly why he was dumped. Which we already know he didn't. www.gunnerkrigg.com/?p=1097Those two theories are not mutually exclusive. Also I think comic #1097 just shows that James never got over Surma. yes, too much Jones could explain why Surma didn't stay with Eggers, but the question of children may never have arisen (they may have assumed it impossible due to its fatal nature). Anthony may have suggested to Surma that he could fix it that she *could* have children and not die, which in his hubristic overconfidence he believed (and convinced her as well). That, plus the brains and dry humor, may have won Surma to him, without Eggers ever really knowing why. Leaving him horribly resentful at being passed over, and then later horribly POed that he went and got Surma pregnant and killed her. |
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