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Post by The Anarch on May 31, 2017 7:01:51 GMT
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Post by crater on May 31, 2017 7:15:05 GMT
You'd think that would be more of a depressing*realization but instead Coyote laughs. Apparently being Coyote is so awesome suddenly remembering HE is "MYSELF" is always better than the pretend alternative. *as if remembering the void behind all things
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Post by ST13R on May 31, 2017 7:17:14 GMT
And then he remembered he was also the other animals who did not recognise himself and walked by, sombre as one is in the presence of death!
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Post by Nepycros on May 31, 2017 7:20:04 GMT
This is rather terrifying when you think about it. It suggests that all manifestations of Coyote can be the psychological equivalent of a sleeper cell. Even without the intention of Coyote being to spy, he can, with a jocular thought, recall his own self and fully restore his divine machinations. A bone, some Coyote juice from the punch bowl that is his lake, a tooth. Moreover, this is like the inverse of his great secret. Whereas the premise of human ingenuity and thought gives rise to him via the ether's influence, he instead can create false lives that are, when properly revealed, simply Coyote playing a trick on himself. How many denizens of the forest are merely components of that mad god that have forgotten they're actually just another facade for the benefit of pranking himself?
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Post by Per on May 31, 2017 7:46:10 GMT
"Life itself is only a vision, a dream."
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Post by cu on May 31, 2017 8:28:31 GMT
We are Legion, for we are many.
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Post by pyradonis on May 31, 2017 9:53:34 GMT
All the world is but a stage.  |
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Post by theonethatgotaway on May 31, 2017 10:00:51 GMT
I AM GRO---YOTE?!
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Post by faiiry on May 31, 2017 10:45:51 GMT
The comic should end (probably around the year 2030 or so) with the revelation that absolutely everyone was Coyote the whole time.
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Post by arf on May 31, 2017 11:00:55 GMT
"I am He, and you are He, and He is Me, and We are all together..."
- Coyote (as John, Paul, George, and Ringo)
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Post by casualobserver on May 31, 2017 11:43:35 GMT
Rather similar to virtually every religion in a not-too-vague way, what with omnipresence and manifestations and all those diety-type trappings. If there really is one God it wouldn't surprise me to learn that His sense of humor is just like Coyote's as well.
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Post by calpal on May 31, 2017 11:45:18 GMT
"I am He, and you are He, and He is Me, and We are all together..." - Coyote (as John, Paul, George, and Ringo) If he turns into a walrus, I hope he knows that "COO COO CA-CHOO" is not, actually, the sound a Walrus makes. |
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Post by arf on May 31, 2017 11:50:28 GMT
"I am He, and you are He, and He is Me, and We are all together..." - Coyote (as John, Paul, George, and Ringo) If he turns into a walrus, I hope he knows that "COO COO CA-CHOO" is not, actually, the sound a Walrus makes. I think it more likely he'd become the Egg Men in this case. |
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Post by Jelly Jellybean on May 31, 2017 12:01:46 GMT
This is rather terrifying when you think about it. It suggests that all manifestations of Coyote can be the psychological equivalent of a sleeper cell. Even without the intention of Coyote being to spy, he can, with a jocular thought, recall his own self and fully restore his divine machinations. A bone, some Coyote juice from the punch bowl that is his lake, a tooth. Moreover, this is like the inverse of his great secret. Whereas the premise of human ingenuity and thought gives rise to him via the ether's influence, he instead can create false lives that are, when properly revealed, simply Coyote playing a trick on himself. How many denizens of the forest are merely components of that mad god that have forgotten they're actually just another facade for the benefit of pranking himself? Is Shadow also Coyote? Coyote made the shadowmen. Maybe each one is a tiny Coyote that doesn't know he's really a tiny Coyote and somehow is able to make new shadowmen/Coyotes. If so, then does Coyote even remember that the shadowmen are part of him? Coyote remembers making them, but maybe Coyote grew bored with the shadowmen because Coyote tricked himself so well. |
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Post by saardvark on May 31, 2017 12:55:54 GMT
All the world is but a stage. and all the men and women merely... goslings? |
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Post by Trillium on May 31, 2017 13:26:59 GMT
The moral of the story, do not be a dead goose in a bush next to a lake. Also, do not become the goose wife of the dead goose next to the lake. Coyote's story encircles the chapter.
Smitty and Parley each have a piece of Coyote. With the one he gave Annie that makes three pieces of him in the Court that we know of...
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Post by ctso74 on May 31, 2017 14:24:04 GMT
Ah. A little existential madness and horror to get us through the week.
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Post by jda on May 31, 2017 16:02:01 GMT
That would be Ysengrin, indeed  |
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Post by jda on May 31, 2017 16:18:39 GMT
This is rather terrifying when you think about it. It suggests that all manifestations of Coyote can be the psychological equivalent of a sleeper cell. Even without the intention of Coyote being to spy, he can, with a jocular thought, recall his own self and fully restore his divine machinations. A bone, some Coyote juice from the punch bowl that is his lake, a tooth. Moreover, this is like the inverse of his great secret. Whereas the premise of human ingenuity and thought gives rise to him via the ether's influence, he instead can create false lives that are, when properly revealed, simply Coyote playing a trick on himself. How many denizens of the forest are merely components of that mad god that have forgotten they're actually just another facade for the benefit of pranking himself? And such denizens of the Forest go now unsuspectedly through the Court halls, one being <snuffle>* 's friend... Is just Coyote going to school? *pronounced correctly |
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Post by rimwolf on Jun 1, 2017 4:05:00 GMT
And then Coyote started a webcomic...
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Post by zbeeblebrox on Jun 1, 2017 7:30:35 GMT
Then suddenly all of the readers suddenly remembered OH I AM COYOTE TOO
And then we were all Coyote.
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Post by bicarbonat on Jun 1, 2017 8:49:54 GMT
This is rather terrifying when you think about it. It suggests that all manifestations of Coyote can be the psychological equivalent of a sleeper cell. Even without the intention of Coyote being to spy, he can, with a jocular thought, recall his own self and fully restore his divine machinations. A bone, some Coyote juice from the punch bowl that is his lake, a tooth. Moreover, this is like the inverse of his great secret. Whereas the premise of human ingenuity and thought gives rise to him via the ether's influence, he instead can create false lives that are, when properly revealed, simply Coyote playing a trick on himself. How many denizens of the forest are merely components of that mad god that have forgotten they're actually just another facade for the benefit of pranking himself? Again with the Clayface TNBA feels. Somebody's whole life turning out to be a "whole" "life"...a puppet trick. It's heartbreaking and cold and, from a storytelling viewpoint, absolutely perfect. We've had a lot of deception/illusions/false selves in this comic over the years, haven't we? Tony and the forest hooligans, the "bismuth", Ayilu and Jeanne, the RotD (after a fashion), the uncovering of Annie's elemental nature proving the evidence of an actual being in power, Kat vs mecha angel, homicidal Hetty... |
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Post by jda on Jun 1, 2017 14:44:59 GMT
We've had a lot of deception/illusions/false selves in this comic over the years, haven't we? Tony and the forest hooligans, the "bismuth", Ayilu and Jeanne, the RotD (after a fashion), the uncovering of Annie's elemental nature proving the evidence of an actual being in power, Kat vs mecha angel, homicidal Hetty... Dont forget Robot (it/him/her)self, (friend and defender/dark cultist, as in "Love makes you act in strange ways") And every formerForest student human body only being a facade, they truly living in the ether. |
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Post by pyradonis on Jun 1, 2017 15:38:29 GMT
The comic should end (probably around the year 2030 or so) with the revelation that absolutely everyone was Coyote the whole time. Getting a bit more meta, in a sense everyone in this comic is not Coyote but... Tom Siddell the whole time. A lot of experienced writers will tell you that their characters might "come alive", and do things that surprise even the writer themselves. But in the end...they are still parts of their creator's mind. So, of course, all characters appearing in Gunnerkrigg Court are Tom. We do not know how many readers are actually Tom. Maybe everyone using this forum ist really Tom, and the forums are just part of a bigger artwork consisting of a fictional comic with a fictional community of fictional readers which is in turn displayed for the enjoyment of other spectators, and... I should stop before this gets out of control. |
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Post by keef on Jun 1, 2017 22:11:59 GMT
The comic should end (probably around the year 2030 or so) with the revelation that absolutely everyone was Coyote the whole time. Getting a bit more meta, in a sense everyone in this comic is not Coyote but... Tom Siddell the whole time. A lot of experienced writers will tell you that their characters might "come alive", and do things that surprise even the writer themselves. But in the end...they are still parts of their creator's mind. So, of course, all characters appearing in Gunnerkrigg Court are Tom. We do not know how many readers are actually Tom. Maybe everyone using this forum ist really Tom, and the forums are just part of a bigger artwork consisting of a fictional comic with a fictional community of fictional readers which is in turn displayed for the enjoyment of other spectators, and... I should stop before this gets out of control. But of course Tom Siddell is just another means for Coyote to tell stories about himself... |
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Post by puntosmx on Jun 2, 2017 1:28:38 GMT
Actually, Coyote's story reminds me of Brahma, who incarnates himself into various deities and heroes to act out a drama to amuse himself.
Creating a tragic story about a widowed goose mourning for her dead goose husband on a bush by a lake is very in line with Coyote's personality.
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Post by warrl on Jun 2, 2017 3:11:05 GMT
The comic should end (probably around the year 2030 or so) with the revelation that absolutely everyone was Coyote the whole time. Getting a bit more meta, in a sense everyone in this comic is not Coyote but... Tom Siddell the whole time. A lot of experienced writers will tell you that their characters might "come alive", and do things that surprise even the writer themselves. But in the end...they are still parts of their creator's mind. Every experienced author and editor I've asked about it - and I asked a room full of authors of varying experience just last weekend - says they OFTEN get into arguments with their own fictional characters, and USUALLY LOSE. Me, I specifically recall one argument I lost, and as a result I'm poisoning the character. Which, oddly enough, led me to an idea for a possible sequel. |
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Post by puntosmx on Jun 2, 2017 3:34:46 GMT
Getting a bit more meta, in a sense everyone in this comic is not Coyote but... Tom Siddell the whole time. A lot of experienced writers will tell you that their characters might "come alive", and do things that surprise even the writer themselves. But in the end...they are still parts of their creator's mind. Every experienced author and editor I've asked about it - and I asked a room full of authors of varying experience just last weekend - says they OFTEN get into arguments with their own fictional characters, and USUALLY LOSE. Me, I specifically recall one argument I lost, and as a result I'm poisoning the character. Which, oddly enough, led me to an idea for a possible sequel. I tend to have those discussion with my RPG characters. As years and characters passed by, I noticed that one can't play a convincing character if it doesn't reflect some part of our inner selves. |
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Post by Runningflame on Jun 2, 2017 20:20:50 GMT
Then suddenly all of the readers suddenly remembered OH I AM COYOTE TOO And then we were all Coyote. Speak for yerself, Beeblebrox. I, personally, can guarantee that I remember no such thing. So far. |
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Post by clover on Jun 2, 2017 23:19:23 GMT
Can't wait to find out which characters were Coyote the whole time.
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