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Post by Gotolei on Apr 26, 2017 7:02:19 GMT
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Post by Elysium on Apr 26, 2017 7:04:07 GMT
"For now"
What could possibly go wrong?
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Post by youwiththeface on Apr 26, 2017 7:05:01 GMT
I'm getting a real feeling of things coming full circle, here. What with Annie's barrette and the girls building a robot.
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Post by imaginaryfriend on Apr 26, 2017 7:09:33 GMT
Replace his whole metal body with flesh except his head? That's a reverse Tin Man in progress.
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Post by noone3 on Apr 26, 2017 7:23:24 GMT
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Post by zbeeblebrox on Apr 26, 2017 8:28:41 GMT
Hm. Did Robot ever go to the trouble of telling Kat that he was able to feel pain in his most recent body?
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Post by aline on Apr 26, 2017 9:17:34 GMT
Hm. Did Robot ever go to the trouble of telling Kat that he was able to feel pain in his most recent body? She's the one who gave him the nerves to feel pain with, I don't see how she could not know. |
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Post by calpal on Apr 26, 2017 10:29:19 GMT
Robot's text looks a little off. I'm guessing cause his body was chopped into pieces, Kat's using weaker parts on him that merely keep him active, rather than mobile.
A more pressing question to ask, though: how much time has passed between Jeanne's going and this chapter? Because if I recall correctly, it took ages for Kat to make the robot arm for robot - all the way from the initial flash of inspiration in Chapter 29, then initial prototype in 41, and then actual implementation in Chapter 56. But now a fully-grown robot? That should have taken a really long time, unless Kat's understanding in Chapter 49 really was blown out of the water.
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Post by Jelly Jellybean on Apr 26, 2017 11:00:23 GMT
Kat is such an optimist. Getting sliced into pieces is an opportunity. An empty warehouse is full of potential. It takes Annie's level of angst to keep from getting caught up in Kat's bubbly charm. |
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Post by faiiry on Apr 26, 2017 11:02:16 GMT
Holy smokes, I'm just never going to understand why everyone is tiptoeing around the situation. It went well! Stop acting like somebody died! (Well, other than Jeanne, I mean.) The only thing anyone should be particularly awkward about is Kat when Annie inevitably asks "So, you're a shapeshifting robot god...what's up with that, huh?"
EDIT: I spot a typo. Panel four: "becuase."
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Post by ariestinak on Apr 26, 2017 11:37:12 GMT
As long as the processor (well, in this comic at least. in reality it should've been the memory chip) is the same, wouldn't it be the same robot? |
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Post by jda on Apr 26, 2017 11:44:28 GMT
Holy smokes, I'm just never going to understand why everyone is tiptoeing around the situation. It went well! Stop acting like somebody died! (Well, other than Jeanne, I mean.) The only thing anyone should be particularly awkward about is Kat when Annie inevitably asks "So, you're a shapeshifting robot god...what's up with that, huh?" EDIT: I spot a typo. Panel four: "becuase." Well, for one thing, the Court is listening. |
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Post by westwindreborn on Apr 26, 2017 13:38:59 GMT
I think Robot might bevthe first person to notice annie's guilt.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 26, 2017 13:47:42 GMT
Robot, a product of opposite matters joining together (Annie and Kat), having experienced pain, will now be entering his pupal stage -- I mean albedo.
It's possible that, in New Data, the double page's many eyes did not only serve to illustrate how Robot would describe his new periphery to the girls, but should also allude to the peacock's tail (still raw and visceral at that point). And now I wonder (briefly) it was a Hermetic that moved Hera's bird's folio to the front of the Vienna Dioskourides.
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Post by TheClockworkCoyote on Apr 26, 2017 13:52:09 GMT
Kat's clearly been skipping out on her mad science classes. There's supposed to be more maniacal cackling, challenging/mocking the gods, ranting about how the peasants will never understand your work, and use of lightning storms as backgrounds for scenes like this. I mean, yes, it's just you and Annie here, but that's no reason to get sloppy. Have some professional pride, dammit!  |
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Post by goldenknots on Apr 26, 2017 14:04:02 GMT
They're both on edge, it seems, but Annie is more so. Panel four, when Kat refers to the prior difficulties somewhat elliptically, she has a very tense body and her face is quite sad.
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Post by faiiry on Apr 26, 2017 14:35:01 GMT
Holy smokes, I'm just never going to understand why everyone is tiptoeing around the situation. It went well! Stop acting like somebody died! (Well, other than Jeanne, I mean.) The only thing anyone should be particularly awkward about is Kat when Annie inevitably asks "So, you're a shapeshifting robot god...what's up with that, huh?" EDIT: I spot a typo. Panel four: "becuase." Well, for one thing, the Court is listening. The Court was also presumably listening previously while everybody openly discussed Jeanne and their plans without a care in the world. What's different now? |
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Post by brilliantgrey on Apr 26, 2017 14:43:52 GMT
I hope Robot isn't...uh...traumatized. Going from breaking a finger to having your body sliced in half is a pretty big jump on the pain scale.
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Post by ctso74 on Apr 26, 2017 15:14:57 GMT
Kat: "You know, when someone cut him off..."
Annie: "Yes."
Kat: "That time his attention was divided..."
Annie: "Hmm."
Kat: "And he had to split-"
Annie: "Yes! I get it, you eldritch machine god!"
Seriously though, I hope they talk about her Ether trip.
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Post by csj on Apr 26, 2017 18:59:30 GMT
But, if Robot does switch to a new head (and presumably a new processor) - would he cease to exist?
Take that, robotheists.
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Post by spritznar on Apr 26, 2017 19:39:01 GMT
so, on the topic of robot getting a new body and if it will still be robot, i'm just gonna leave these here; link link |
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Post by Jelly Jellybean on Apr 26, 2017 20:11:21 GMT
Kat's clearly been skipping out on her mad science classes. There's supposed to be more maniacal cackling, challenging/mocking the gods, ranting about how the peasants will never understand your work, and use of lightning storms as backgrounds for scenes like this. I mean, yes, it's just you and Annie here, but that's no reason to get sloppy. Have some professional pride, dammit! I think a particularly interesting part of Kat's personality is her belief that she is just a normal person. Creating Robot's body is just something a normal friend does if she knows how. No call for manical laughter if you're just making tea. I also expect Kat to have reasons to continue believing that she is just a normal person when others try to tell her she is the Mecha Angel. - Uh, robots just act funny sometimes. - Wah? Paz, you were still experiencing the effects of being in Zimmingham when you saw something in the blue smoke. - Come on Annie, we've seen things differently before and I could see my normal self. |
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Post by warrl on Apr 26, 2017 20:30:24 GMT
But, if Robot does switch to a new head (and presumably a new processor) - would he cease to exist? Take that, robotheists. Robot's processor has already been in (at least) four bodies that we've seen, while retaining the same personality and continuity of memory: * The one Annie assembled, which may or may not have included parts from his original body * a tabletop model that only provided I/O, not mobility * a wind-up mouse * the one that Parley, and later again Jeanne, sliced in half (assuming that Kat repaired it after Parley cut it up, rather than replacing it; otherwise, 5 bodies) Obviously the identity is in the processor, which presumably has a huge amount of on-board persistent memory. |
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Post by keef on Apr 26, 2017 22:05:18 GMT
As long as the processor (well, in this comic at least. in reality it should've been the memory chip) is the same, wouldn't it be the same robot? Maybe the processor stores memory into the ether. It's Diego's work after all, and he seems to have been both an alchemist and an engineer. That would explain the fact that just a processor seems to be able to "store" a personality. ( The answers Tom gave about Diego are not really helpful, but good material for wild spec) |
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Post by todd on Apr 26, 2017 23:14:42 GMT
Well, for one thing, the Court is listening. The Court was also presumably listening previously while everybody openly discussed Jeanne and their plans without a care in the world. What's different now? More likely it's just a reluctance to be explicit about a harrowing experience. |
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Post by Runningflame on Apr 26, 2017 23:34:30 GMT
But, if Robot does switch to a new head (and presumably a new processor) - would he cease to exist? Take that, robotheists. Robot's processor has already been in (at least) four bodies that we've seen, while retaining the same personality and continuity of memory: * The one Annie assembled, which may or may not have included parts from his original body * a tabletop model that only provided I/O, not mobility * a wind-up mouse * the one that Parley, and later again Jeanne, sliced in half (assuming that Kat repaired it after Parley cut it up, rather than replacing it; otherwise, 5 bodies) Obviously the identity is in the processor, which presumably has a huge amount of on-board persistent memory. One that you missed, and probably the most interesting one, was the S1 body, in which his personality seemed to be overridden, but afterwards he remembered everything. A more pressing question to ask, though: how much time has passed between Jeanne's going and this chapter? Because if I recall correctly, it took ages for Kat to make the robot arm for robot - all the way from the initial flash of inspiration in Chapter 29, then initial prototype in 41, and then actual implementation in Chapter 56. But now a fully-grown robot? That should have taken a really long time, unless Kat's understanding in Chapter 49 really was blown out of the water. I don't know how long the physical growth process takes, but the design and trial-and-error parts should go much quicker. Once you've built something before, it's a lot easier to build it a second time. |
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Post by TBeholder on Apr 27, 2017 1:17:55 GMT
An awkward moment. so, on the topic of robot getting a new body and if it will still be robot, i'm just gonna leave these here; link link Good point. Another curious convergence is that Red has elements of "predatory psychopath" behaviour up to and including the disabling "parting shot", but for different reasons. |
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Post by Corvo on Apr 27, 2017 17:23:02 GMT
But, if Robot does switch to a new head (and presumably a new processor) - would he cease to exist? Take that, robotheists. |
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Post by Eversist on Apr 27, 2017 19:50:31 GMT
Robot keeps his chip through the three bodies he's been in through the comic, so does this paradox still apply? |
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Post by zbeeblebrox on Apr 28, 2017 6:30:41 GMT
But, if Robot does switch to a new head (and presumably a new processor) - would he cease to exist? Oh jeez, who has that explanation from SOMA handy? |
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