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Post by Daedalus on Apr 24, 2017 7:00:25 GMT
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Post by imaginaryfriend on Apr 24, 2017 7:04:52 GMT
I wonder if Paz will be there. Watching Kat and Paz canoodle would be the perfect capper to Antimony's day.
[edit] I suppose getting told off by Paz for putting Kat in danger and then Paz breaking up with Kat, with Kat blaming Antimony, would actually be worse but I don't think it'll go that far. [/edit]
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Post by youwiththeface on Apr 24, 2017 7:11:50 GMT
Haven't seen the robots in a while. I wonder if we'll see how Robot is recuperating from what Jeanne did to him?
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Post by Timberwere on Apr 24, 2017 7:56:51 GMT
I wonder if Paz will be there. Watching Kat and Paz canoodle would be the perfect capper to Antimony's day. Since Kat and Paz are living with the rest of their year and Annie is living alone now that she has to repeat Year Nine, the chances of her seeing them are rather slim I'd guess.
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Post by arf on Apr 24, 2017 8:09:55 GMT
At the sign of the Creative Kat: a meeting house to unlace your boots and rest from the road. ... and generally unburden oneself.
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Post by arf on Apr 24, 2017 8:11:09 GMT
Haven't seen the robots in a while. I wonder if we'll see how Robot is recuperating from what Jeanne did to him? That will underscore Red's message.
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Post by ctso74 on Apr 24, 2017 13:41:09 GMT
Haven't seen the robots in a while. I wonder if we'll see how Robot is recuperating from what Jeanne did to him? That will underscore Red's message. If Kat has given Robot a more rad cyberorganic body, I'm sure he'd see it as a positive. I wonder if, Annie will wind back the 'pity party', and grab hold of a positive consequence. Then again, Robot could act weird and off-putting, about it all being "worth it". We still haven't seen Annie and Kat talk about their visit to the Ether (especially Kat's presence there). It will be interesting to see how Kat and Annie are dealing with it
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Post by ST13R on Apr 24, 2017 13:45:03 GMT
Haven't seen the robots in a while. I wonder if we'll see how Robot is recuperating from what Jeanne did to him? That will underscore Red's message. Or he might be thankful that he was given the choice to 'do something' instead of 'nothing': "she died and we did nothing something" though I'm guessing this will probably be about Annie asking if Kat felt forced into the whole situation.
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Post by Deepbluediver on Apr 24, 2017 14:08:58 GMT
I'm starting to suspect that the whole comic is really just an excuse for Tom to draw lots of melancholy mist-filled landscapes.
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Post by ohthatone on Apr 24, 2017 14:22:31 GMT
I dunno, we thought Annie and Smitty and Parley were going to say something about the Jeanne thing, so I'm not putting money down that Annie and Kat are going to have The Talk just yet. Maybe it will just be a chapter of lovely scenery and awkward silences while the audience slowly froths at the mouth.
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Post by faiiry on Apr 24, 2017 14:28:27 GMT
I'm not surprised that Annie might feel isolated. Many key events have happened in the comic that would make her feel isolated in the Court while being accepted in the forest. Mort's "death," Kat's increasing distance from her (partly due to her relationship with Paz), and especially being moved back a grade and put into classes with younger kids she doesn't know. Returning to the Court might feel like falling into a void for her. I wouldn't be able to stand it.
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Post by spritznar on Apr 24, 2017 15:58:26 GMT
so, some thoughts on robot since people are bringing him up. (and i missed my chance to discuss this when it originally happened)
what was he even doing down in the ravine? he wasn't shown there with the others until he's suddenly attacking jeanne, making it difficult for ayilu to mantain the illusion. was he supposed to be there? why did he attack jeanne when they were trying to keep her calm?
also; oh man, robot can feel pain now, can't he? being sliced in half is suddenly more consequential and horrifying than the first time it happened...
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Post by spritznar on Apr 24, 2017 16:02:36 GMT
I wonder if Paz will be there. Watching Kat and Paz canoodle would be the perfect capper to Antimony's day. Since Kat and Paz are living with the rest of their year and Annie is living alone now that she has to repeat Year Nine, the chances of her seeing them are rather slim I'd guess. except annie seems to be heading to kat's workshop. a place kat will probably be and paz may be visiting and canoodling?
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Post by saardvark on Apr 24, 2017 18:18:29 GMT
so, some thoughts on robot since people are bringing him up. (and i missed my chance to discuss this when it originally happened) what was he even doing down in the ravine? he wasn't shown there with the others until he's suddenly attacking jeanne, making it difficult for ayilu to mantain the illusion. was he supposed to be there? why did he attack jeanne when they were trying to keep her calm? also; oh man, robot can feel pain now, can't he? being sliced in half is suddenly more consequential and horrifying than the first time it happened... Some of this might have been discussed when it was first clear Robot was down there, but here's a couple of ideas: (1) maybe Robot was always part of the plan - an extra distractor for Jeanne, buying extra time - since they figured Parley would only be able to hold her off so long (which proved true). They perhaps didn't figure it would be hard for Ayilu to maintain the illusion with Robot. (2) Robot lept to the rescue/aid of goddess Kat, when he was alerted to where they were/what they were doing (though how he would be alerted is not clear). I like (1) better. (Apologies if this has all been gone over before...)
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Post by mturtle7 on Apr 24, 2017 22:19:27 GMT
so, some thoughts on robot since people are bringing him up. (and i missed my chance to discuss this when it originally happened) what was he even doing down in the ravine? he wasn't shown there with the others until he's suddenly attacking jeanne, making it difficult for ayilu to mantain the illusion. was he supposed to be there? why did he attack jeanne when they were trying to keep her calm? also; oh man, robot can feel pain now, can't he? being sliced in half is suddenly more consequential and horrifying than the first time it happened... Some of this might have been discussed when it was first clear Robot was down there, but here's a couple of ideas: (1) maybe Robot was always part of the plan - an extra distractor for Jeanne, buying extra time - since they figured Parley would only be able to hold her off so long (which proved true). They perhaps didn't figure it would be hard for Ayilu to maintain the illusion with Robot. (2) Robot lept to the rescue/aid of goddess Kat, when he was alerted to where they were/what they were doing (though how he would be alerted is not clear). I like (1) better. (Apologies if this has all been gone over before...) As I remember that scene, Jeanne had just felt Annie touch Diego's device, and became certain that something weird was in her idyllic landscape, despite Ayilu and George's best efforts to calm her. That's when Robot jumped in with a hasty etheric disguise from Ayilu so she would fixate on him instead of figuring out the whole illusion. I assume they used Robot because they needed a relatively good sword fighter to distract Jeanne, and there would be less risk of him actually dying (permanently, that is). I'd also agree with saardvark that they hadn't known how hard it would be to keep Jeanne in the illusion once she started fighting in the real world.
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Post by seedmagnesium on Apr 25, 2017 3:41:55 GMT
Kat. Kat. Kat. Kat.
Yes it will be interesting to hear them go over the whole "so I'm actually a horrific mecha-deity and I didn't know" situation.
I wonder if her parents know anything? "Mom, dad, I'm a mechanical eldritch abomination. I'm also gay"
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Post by clover on Apr 25, 2017 4:58:17 GMT
I do really enjoy that this comic takes the time to breathe and space out dialogue; I find that I can be overdialogued to death and it nullifies my continued interest in lots of different works. Here, the text bubbles chill out and we get some visual expression in. Even 'empty' pages like this end up being meaningful.
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Post by csj on Apr 25, 2017 7:58:24 GMT
She does have Kat and Renard, but neither really seems likely.
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Post by OGRuddawg on Apr 25, 2017 20:22:32 GMT
I'm not surprised that Annie might feel isolated. Many key events have happened in the comic that would make her feel isolated in the Court while being accepted in the forest. Mort's "death," Kat's increasing distance from her (partly due to her relationship with Paz), and especially being moved back a grade and put into classes with younger kids she doesn't know. Returning to the Court might feel like falling into a void for her. I wouldn't be able to stand it. Not to mention her father's return opening old wounds and being a catalyst for her being held back a year. I know what he did regarding her cheating habit probably is better than getting kicked out of the program, but it was emotionally devastating to hear it from her father when he only just returned from a 3-year absence with no explanation. This broke Annie's previous way of life and she is only now starting to rebuild from that. It's a long ass process, so I suspect this will be a running theme throughout the comic as we see her continue to recover and grow up.
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Post by OGRuddawg on Apr 25, 2017 20:29:09 GMT
I do really enjoy that this comic takes the time to breathe and space out dialogue; I find that I can be overdialogued to death and it nullifies my continued interest in lots of different works. Here, the text bubbles chill out and we get some visual expression in. Even 'empty' pages like this end up being meaningful. One of my favorite things is that Tom does not very heavily lean on dialogue or straight exposition to advance the plot in the comic. He is a master of storytelling in this regard, using visual styles and a "show don't tell" approach to add to and sometimes replace dialogue as the main vehicle for plot advancement and world building. It's really hard to do, especially with the level of nuance and the personality differences in the large cast of characters, many of which are not even human. Making a cohesive, well-written plot for something like GKC is very imressive, so I have a huge amount of respect for Tom as both an artist and a storyteller. This right here is why Gunnerkrigg Court is my favorite webcomic, and Tom is one of my favorite content creators in any medium.
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Post by Isildur on Apr 25, 2017 21:25:26 GMT
Have we seen Kat place her symbol deliberately before? (As opposed to it appearing on Renard's head)
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Post by OGRuddawg on Apr 25, 2017 21:52:42 GMT
Have we seen Kat place her symbol deliberately before? (As opposed to it appearing on Renard's head) I don't think Kat is aware just how much weight the robots put into the symbol. She probably just thinks it was the Seraph robots being weird and creepy as only the Court robot secret police could be. I doubt she has put much though into the significance of the creator symbol when they marked her workshop with it. She's probably mulling it over in her head, though. Kat just doesn't have as much knowledge as we do regarding the robot cult and Robot's place as the prophet/leader of the movement.
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Post by spritznar on Apr 25, 2017 23:53:05 GMT
Have we seen Kat place her symbol deliberately before? (As opposed to it appearing on Renard's head) aside from the doodled note middle left here?
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Post by todd on Apr 26, 2017 0:32:52 GMT
One of my favorite things is that Tom does not very heavily lean on dialogue or straight exposition to advance the plot in the comic. He is a master of storytelling in this regard, using visual styles and a "show don't tell" approach to add to and sometimes replace dialogue as the main vehicle for plot advancement and world building I wonder if this is one reason why Annie's narration disappeared from the comic after the middle of Chapter Fifteen - that Tom had reached the point where he no longer needed a "voice over narrator" to explain what was going on. (Of course, many chapters, more and more, started focusing on the point of view of other characters, which could have been another reason why Annie's narration faded out.)
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Post by Daedalus on Apr 26, 2017 2:40:16 GMT
I'm starting to suspect that the whole comic is really just an excuse for Tom to draw lots of melancholy mist-filled landscapes. Wait, just starting? I thought that was a well-established fact
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Post by Deepbluediver on Apr 28, 2017 18:40:53 GMT
Wait, just starting? I thought that was a well-established fact I'm slow- it takes me a while to pick up on things sometimes.
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