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Post by Daedalus on Feb 8, 2017 8:00:46 GMT
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Post by arf on Feb 8, 2017 8:02:51 GMT
Bed o' bones
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Post by arf on Feb 8, 2017 8:04:22 GMT
Despite appearances, I have a feeling that we haven't seen the last of these two.
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Post by Zox Tomana on Feb 8, 2017 8:04:39 GMT
See, this just looks ominous to me. I feel like out lovely lovers are subject to something in the Aether now... Even though this is probably supposed to just be some darkly touching thing
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Post by Rasselas on Feb 8, 2017 8:13:35 GMT
Oh this is just so pretty. Very fitting as a cap to their story.
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Post by bicarbonat on Feb 8, 2017 8:19:42 GMT
See, this just looks ominous to me. I feel like out lovely lovers are subject to something in the Aether now... Even though this is probably supposed to just be some darkly touching thing Right? I saw the bones surrounding them in the darkness and thought first of Coyote (elf-guy is his jurisdiction, no?) and then of Anthony's misguided osteo-ode to Freddy Krueger. I'm certain that years of reading & general anxiety are making me jumpier than a long-tailed cat in a room full of rocking chairs. But I feel like a trap's been (re?)activated, if not sprung, by the lovers' liberation. Because wouldn't that be a gut-wrenchingly balanced thing. Someone is being played the patsy, just like they were. |
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Post by ecarr on Feb 8, 2017 8:19:48 GMT
Is it just me, or does the ring of bones around them look suspiciously similar to the ring-of-teeth binding Coyote has (had? I need to reread; this was way back with his Tooth, regardless) Annie under?
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Post by madragoran on Feb 8, 2017 9:31:59 GMT
I got a question for someone wiser than I am (that won't be hard!) so we got the two lovers in fron of what appears to be a pelvis? And over them two skulls over a ribcage and ofcourse the ring of leg and arm and finger bones, radiating from them (or as some people see it encircling them). What does it mean? I get the whole united in death vibe but why one ribcage and one pelvis and use two skulls? is the whole the two are one now? Also the skulls appear to have holes on the jaw and cheeks? Eeeh, this is too morbid for me. i prefer the happy end for anyone while they are alive and able to enjoy it.
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Post by keef on Feb 8, 2017 9:52:04 GMT
I guess we might have a second bonus page Friday. Just a hunch. So many things to tie up, like the naming of Red's friend.
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Post by speedwell on Feb 8, 2017 10:58:17 GMT
I take the bones as just a symbol of death, and the picture is really so calm, even static, I don't get any "horror" vibe from it at all. The encircling arm and finger bones, like outflung hands (I don't see leg bones there), read to me like a protective hedge; they might as well be a hedge of thorny roses. The pelvis strikes me with its similarity to a "heart" outline, and the ribs to wings above it. And how beautifully rendered each skull is... they aren't just copies of each other, and they are gorgeous studies of exactly how you'd expect them to differ because of the way the characters are drawn and the fact that they are slightly different sorts of humanoids (not clear on species/races and not sure it matters when the etheric is involved). It's almost a literal picture of the phrase "together in death". Madragoran: Skulls differ anatomically as much as people do, and you would expect at least a little decay in the intervening years of exposure. I looked at many pictures of skulls and see nothing unexpected about the wear patterns or frontal sinus holes. Here's a good example: www.artistdaily.com/wp-content/uploads/skull1.jpgecarr (welcome to the boards!): They would look similar to me, too, if they were teeth, which they are not. |
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Post by philman on Feb 8, 2017 11:12:02 GMT
I don't see this as anything ominous, I just see it as one part of a story that has now been closed. Jeanne and her lover are at rest, and their role in this story is over, although the repercussions of their being freed from their centuries long entrapment are nowhere near finished.
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Post by csj on Feb 8, 2017 11:28:53 GMT
Dulce et decorum est?
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Post by Jelly Jellybean on Feb 8, 2017 11:34:35 GMT
I guess we might have a second bonus page Friday. Just a hunch. So many things to tie up, like the naming of Red's friend. Or 50 chapters from now her name will be used in a conversation without any one calling attention to it. Will her unauthorized naming go unnoticed by the establishment? I don't think Blue or Red will be able to keep it a secret. Bugsy was there when Red accidentally got her name and can vouch that it was unintentional on Annie's part. The Court leadership may not care, but the Foley teachers may be more concerned and investigate. madragoran speedwell The right skull has an unusual/higher ridge running back from the eyes and additional foramen (holes) compared to the one on the left. I assume the skulls are Jeanne and Green Guy with Green guy's skull having some unique features since he is Forest Folk instead of human. |
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Post by speedwell on Feb 8, 2017 12:02:23 GMT
speedwell The right skull has an unusual/higher ridge running back from the eyes and additional foramen (holes) compared to the one on the left. I assume the skulls are Jeanne and Green Guy with Green guy's skull having some unique features since he is Forest Folk instead of human. Yes, the skulls are precisely in the same position as the characters below, so it's plainly them. |
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Post by Corvo on Feb 8, 2017 12:56:41 GMT
Is it just me, or does the ring of bones around them look suspiciously similar to the ring-of-teeth binding Coyote has (had? I need to reread; this was way back with his Tooth, regardless) Annie under?
Long shot, I know. |
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Post by ctso74 on Feb 8, 2017 14:25:59 GMT
Seems very (less colorful) Día de Muertos to me. It's an aesthetic that can be both peaceful, tragic and romantic. Or all of them with comedy mixed in; just look at Grim Fandango.
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Post by Per on Feb 8, 2017 14:45:11 GMT
You know you're too deep in GC fandom when...
... you spend most of your time looking at this page trying to come up with a way to justify the ··−−− fingerbones representing 113.
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Post by jinxiii on Feb 8, 2017 16:04:18 GMT
You know you're too deep in GC fandom when... ... you spend most of your time looking at this page trying to come up with a way to justify the ··−−− fingerbones representing 113. It seems like it's Morse code for 2, signifying that they're finally a pair again. Edit: Forgot that 113 is a recurring trope, but who knows man. |
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Post by darlos9d on Feb 8, 2017 16:12:36 GMT
I don't see this as anything ominous, I just see it as one part of a story that has now been closed. Jeanne and her lover are at rest, and their role in this story is over, although the repercussions of their being freed from their centuries long entrapment are nowhere near finished. I'm having flashbacks to similar conversations regarding... a certain character dying in Homestuck. In a setting where the dead can still show up post-mortem, these things become a lot less certain, no matter how certain you feel in the moment. That said, I don't expect GC to pull the massive amounts of shenanigans that HS did, and could perfectly believe that this page is just an artistic sendoff, if with grim imagery. However, I can't shake the sense of uncertainty. The best I can say is "we'll see." |
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Post by birdwhisperer on Feb 8, 2017 18:30:53 GMT
Oh, this is so beautiful and sad and sweet. I also got an ominous vibe on first viewing but the couple themselves seems very peaceful, and the skulls are sort of nuzzling each other. The only thing that makes it seem like anything other than them resting in peace is that ring of bones, they look kind of threatening. But that could simply be interpretation. And at the same time, their love story was sad and scary and faced outside threats, so perhaps this is the best way to represent their life, death, and after-death.
Either way, I love it.
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Post by fia on Feb 8, 2017 20:06:50 GMT
Was not expecting this today. Creepy. What did happen to their remains, by the way? The gang just bipped out of frame, but Jeanne's bones were on the shore earlier, and GG's rose themselves up out of the water. Jeanne's also wearing a maroon one-sleeved dress, which may just be smart composition, but GG seems to have the same pants. |
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Post by Eversist on Feb 8, 2017 20:26:29 GMT
I guess we might have a second bonus page Friday. Just a hunch. So many things to tie up, like the naming of Red's friend. Maybe we'll have a lighthearted chapter of the naming after these two mixed chapters. :D D: |
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Post by OGRuddawg on Feb 8, 2017 23:10:55 GMT
I'm getting a "Cut Off" vibe from Chapter 51's bonus page- "Cut Off"Let me explain. Eyes closed, a very still but evocative image, the end of what has been and the ushering in of some big but unknown changes. Also, I think both images are unsettling in their own way. Annie's because of what has just happened, Jeanne's and Green Guy's because we don't know what the repercussions are going to be. This is an amazing page, though. Tom's composition and storytelling skills are turned up to eleven when he draws pages like this. |
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Post by fia on Feb 8, 2017 23:45:53 GMT
I'm getting a "Cut Off" vibe from Chapter 51's bonus page- "Cut Off"Let me explain. Eyes closed, a very still but evocative image, the end of what has been and the ushering in of some big but unknown changes. Also, I think both images are unsettling in their own way. Annie's because of what has just happened, Jeanne's and Green Guy's because we don't know what the repercussions are going to be. This is an amazing page, though. Tom's composition and storytelling skills are turned up to eleven when he draws pages like this. Nice catch! Further speculation: in alchemy, the alchemical process is meant to lead to an exaltation of being to its highest potential, and this process always begins with death (viz., the separation of the three main Principles). In Alchemy this first stage of decay is called “Putrefaction”. It may be that the arrow sent down by the Court to trap Jeanne and GG 'trapped' them in the alchemical sense, in that their bodies and spirits and intelligences were not allowed to separate. This bonus page may well be intended as a remark on their final peace, or death, insofar as their bones and souls etc might finally be separated. The circle of bones, though, is what gets me. Traditionally circles mean 'enclosure'. What if they're still not quite dead? |
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Post by bgb16999 on Feb 9, 2017 0:03:49 GMT
As I noted previously, I caught up on Gunnerkrigg Court just as the treatise at the end of volume six was posted. This chapter is the first one I've followed as it was released. And now it is over, and it is time to begin the cycle anew. The world will continue to spin, but for me, at least, THIS REALLY IS A BIG DAY! |
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Post by arf on Feb 9, 2017 1:53:44 GMT
I got a question for someone wiser than I am (that won't be hard!) so we got the two lovers in fron of what appears to be a pelvis? And over them two skulls over a ribcage and ofcourse the ring of leg and arm and finger bones, radiating from them (or as some people see it encircling them). What does it mean? I get the whole united in death vibe but why one ribcage and one pelvis and use two skulls? is the whole the two are one now? Also the skulls appear to have holes on the jaw and cheeks? Eeeh, this is too morbid for me. i prefer the happy end for anyone while they are alive and able to enjoy it. Bright ring of hair around the bone. Bright ring of bone around the pair... could be a Coyote geis. Hollow fairies, hmmm... The composition clearly represents something, but I think we'll have to wait for the more subtle aspects to become clear. As to holes in the skull bones: these are quite normal anatomical features. Muscles need anchor points. Nerves and blood vessels have to get places somehow (and bones need a blood supply, too!). What is interesting is that Green Guy appears to have an additional hole in his cheek bone. What is that for? |
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Post by speedwell on Feb 9, 2017 4:11:38 GMT
What is interesting is that Green Guy appears to have an additional hole in his cheek bone. What is that for? Interesting to conjecture. The bones in general might be especially lightened so they can jump to their high platforms. There might be a novel sensory organ in the face. It might be the site of increased blood and'or nerve supply to the ears, eyes, or nose for enhanced sensory capacity. It might be incidental to some other evolutionary characteristic. It might be evidence of convergent evolution from a different remote ancestor from that of humans. It might be individual, as a result of disease or surgery or something affecting fetal development or a point mutation or genetic anomaly. That's just a few of the non-etheric possibilities! |
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Post by snipertom on Feb 9, 2017 4:21:12 GMT
I got a question for someone wiser than I am (that won't be hard!) so we got the two lovers in fron of what appears to be a pelvis? And over them two skulls over a ribcage and ofcourse the ring of leg and arm and finger bones, radiating from them (or as some people see it encircling them). What does it mean? I get the whole united in death vibe but why one ribcage and one pelvis and use two skulls? is the whole the two are one now? Also the skulls appear to have holes on the jaw and cheeks? Eeeh, this is too morbid for me. i prefer the happy end for anyone while they are alive and able to enjoy it. it's a vertebra. |
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Post by snipertom on Feb 9, 2017 4:34:56 GMT
You know you're too deep in GC fandom when... ... you spend most of your time looking at this page trying to come up with a way to justify the ··−−− fingerbones representing 113. It seems like it's Morse code for 2, signifying that they're finally a pair again. Edit: Forgot that 113 is a recurring trope, but who knows man. Maybe the morse code for 2 is the reason for 113 Or maybe Tom just likes Pythagorean evil primes that are the centred sum of 2 squares and when reversed are still a prime? oeis.org/search?q=113&fmt=short |
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Post by Storel on Feb 9, 2017 6:07:39 GMT
This page has sort of a medieval look to me, somehow. We know that Tom has based at least some of the treatises on actual pictures from medieval alchemy books. Could this be based on a medieval image, too?
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