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Post by Daedalus on Dec 12, 2016 8:00:24 GMT
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Post by bedinsis on Dec 12, 2016 8:04:47 GMT
Perhaps the device Kat used to be able to enter ether-world was not strong enough to do so while Green Guy was free? ...for some reason?
Either way, Kat has left, so now we'll hopefully don't have to see scenes in Kat's bore-o-vision.
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Post by CGAdam on Dec 12, 2016 8:08:56 GMT
My immediate, overly sentimental, and most likely wrong guess is a ring he planned to give Jeanne.
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Post by noone3 on Dec 12, 2016 8:09:16 GMT
Perhaps the device Kat used to be able to enter ether-world was not strong enough to do so while Green Guy was free? I bet the battery time in those things is outrageous... |
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Post by west on Dec 12, 2016 8:11:43 GMT
Kat: "It's just a string of handkerchiefs knotted together!" Annie: "I- I can't even describe what I'm seeing!"  I'll put my two cents on it being whatever links That Elf to Jeanne. Probably better that we see it with Annie's vision, since Kat would probably just pry out that last letter he got from Jeanne or something. |
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Post by ST13R on Dec 12, 2016 8:12:09 GMT
My immediate, overly sentimental, and most likely wrong guess is a ring he planned to give Jeanne. The odd thing is that in 'the Coward Heart', he doesn't seem to have anything in his right hand. Getting shot in the back doesn't leave much time to switch hands I suppose.. -EDIT- Now that I think about it, those were Jeanne's memories, which may be entirely not-accurate. |
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Post by Nepycros on Dec 12, 2016 8:13:36 GMT
I imagine that with the lock broken, the device itself is no longer a "container," so there's nothing keeping Kat inside it.
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Post by arf on Dec 12, 2016 8:20:57 GMT
...or Annie (or Green Guy, for that matter)
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Post by picrasso on Dec 12, 2016 8:21:43 GMT
I'm thinking more malicious. This has been a Court plot worked out in great detail. Wouldn't they have built in some safety mechanism? Perhaps the role guardian between the waters is now going to Kat. At least Jeanne and the Elf are now free. Although what Kat and Annie were doing was harming Jeanne in some way.
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Post by chrisjenl on Dec 12, 2016 8:23:10 GMT
My immediate, overly sentimental, and most likely wrong guess is a ring he planned to give Jeanne. I think you are maybe right but i think its also a part of the "omega divise"? (the spell/machine that keep hem and Jeanne there) and so Kat know that someone in the forest help the Court to trap them. Or he punch kat withe his fist in the face and puch her out........(but kat is not in pain so i dont think so.) |
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Post by ctso74 on Dec 12, 2016 8:24:51 GMT
Green Guy: "And is this your card?"
Annie: "D- David Blaine?! How did you even set this up?... Fine. Yes, it was the six of Clubs."
Maybe, his spirit has been holding on to a memory, all this time. Or Jeanne's conscience/heart. It's hard to thunk of anything, that would cease her anger , and end the battle.
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Post by imaginaryfriend on Dec 12, 2016 8:26:13 GMT
My immediate, overly sentimental, and most likely wrong guess is a ring he planned to give Jeanne. The odd thing is that in 'the Coward Heart', he doesn't seem to have anything in his right hand. Getting shot in the back doesn't leave much time to switch hands I suppose.. -EDIT- Now that I think about it, those were Jeanne's memories, which may be entirely not-accurate. Looking back over the past chapter the only thing Kermit has in his right hand is Antimony (and only briefly) although we can't see if the right hand of his skeleton is clutching something or no. So, an engagement/wedding ring is possible, but maybe it'll be an allegorical representation of Jeanne's heart/emotions. If this thing works because it artificially trapped her heart here (since he had it) then he should still have it. |
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Post by hifranc on Dec 12, 2016 8:27:03 GMT
I think it's Annie in his hand.
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Post by Lightice on Dec 12, 2016 8:34:52 GMT
I think it's Annie in his hand. That came to my mind first, as well. Kat is finally starting to see some etheric weirdness, at least. |
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Post by agasa on Dec 12, 2016 8:35:57 GMT
Planning for the worst case, I'd advise Annie to get as far as possible from Green Guy's hand right away.
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Post by rafk on Dec 12, 2016 9:06:18 GMT
That was EXACTLY my reaction. |
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Post by quanticia on Dec 12, 2016 11:26:33 GMT
My money's on Jeanne's heart!
The release of the lock must be what was affecting her at the last battle panel... also I think it's been mentioned that her heart was trapped at the bottom of the river. And if it is possible to give your heart to someone in the etheric world, we can easily bet she gave him hers.
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Post by ST13R on Dec 12, 2016 11:32:18 GMT
The odd thing is that in 'the Coward Heart', he doesn't seem to have anything in his right hand. Getting shot in the back doesn't leave much time to switch hands I suppose.. -EDIT- Now that I think about it, those were Jeanne's memories, which may be entirely not-accurate. Looking back over the past chapter the only thing Kermit has in his right hand is Antimony (and only briefly) although we can't see if the right hand of his skeleton is clutching something or no. So, an engagement/wedding ring is possible, but maybe it'll be an allegorical representation of Jeanne's heart/emotions. If this thing works because it artificially trapped her heart here (since he had it) then he should still have it. Wasn't that his left hand though anyway, he let go of her again as well. I guess the allegorical representation would tie in with what Jeanne said, "my heart was run through and left to die on the riverbed". Wondering how Kat would see something so non-technical as 'love', though I'm guessing we'll see Annies perspective soon  ! Brainfart: Could the hand positions also be more symbolic, e.g. closed hand vs. open hand: war/piece or just anger/calmness or something? |
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Post by philman on Dec 12, 2016 12:38:43 GMT
I'm wondering less about what he has in his hand, and more why Kat has been kicked out of the ether. Is it just because her green device allowed her to sync with the arrow's prison, and now that the arrow has been unlocked she is no longer synced? In which case, is Annie still trapped within the arrow or can she get out now?
My first thought about "what is in his hand" is that after all we have seen of their machinations and paranoia, the Court was actually right. He was carrying something intent on causing damage to the court, which is why trapping him, and Jeanne, was necessary in the first place.
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Post by saardvark on Dec 12, 2016 13:04:33 GMT
I'm wondering less about what he has in his hand, and more why Kat has been kicked out of the ether. Is it just because her green device allowed her to sync with the arrow's prison, and now that the arrow has been unlocked she is no longer synced? In which case, is Annie still trapped within the arrow or can she get out now? My first thought about "what is in his hand" is that after all we have seen of their machinations and paranoia, the Court was actually right. He was carrying something intent on causing damage to the court, which is why trapping him, and Jeanne, was necessary in the first place. I think that because Annie and Kat traveled into the ether to green-guy by different means (Annie by floating down, Kat via green wand) that Annie just hasn't "returned" yet. The "oh" seems not shocked or scared... maybe mildly surprised at some expression she sees on Annie's face(?) Perhaps the freeing of green-guy looks really cool in the ether, and Annie's face is full of wonder/joy.... |
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Post by cb3 on Dec 12, 2016 13:26:51 GMT
Umm...is that an etheric outboard?
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Post by zbeeblebrox on Dec 12, 2016 13:28:52 GMT
Oh man, was he inadvertently keeping Jeanne there too? Maybe coyote gave him some token, which jived with the arrow to lock her to the shore. She just thinks she remained of her own volition..
Wouldn't surprise me a bit if it turned out Coyote colluded with the Court to execute this plan.
I wonder what Kat saw before getting kicked from the server for hacks. It seemed to leave an impression on her.
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Post by mordekai on Dec 12, 2016 15:05:38 GMT
The green elf is obviously holding Annie' etheric self; That's the reason she was trapped inside the lock...
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Post by Deepbluediver on Dec 12, 2016 16:02:31 GMT
He's got the whole world in His hands...
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Post by philman on Dec 12, 2016 16:31:02 GMT
Wouldn't surprise me a bit if it turned out Coyote colluded with the Court to execute this plan. Interesting idea, I can see it happening. I think this goes deeper and darker than they realise. |
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Post by fish on Dec 12, 2016 16:33:18 GMT
I'm wondering less about what he has in his hand, and more why Kat has been kicked out of the ether. Is it just because her green device allowed her to sync with the arrow's prison, and now that the arrow has been unlocked she is no longer synced? In which case, is Annie still trapped within the arrow or can she get out now? That's what I thought as well. Annie's etheric self is probably still hanging out by the skeleton on the riverbed. Will she still need to pull the arrow up? And what about the elf ghost? Hmmmm. Whatever he is holding, I am bracing myself for emotional impact of the very sad kind. My heart is fortified, my tear glands carefully drained. |
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Post by fish on Dec 12, 2016 16:38:44 GMT
Wouldn't surprise me a bit if it turned out Coyote colluded with the Court to execute this plan. Interesting idea, I can see it happening. I think this goes deeper and darker than they realise. Stop right there! Read these words of Tom. Now work your conspiracy theory around that.  |
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Post by zaferion on Dec 12, 2016 16:52:58 GMT
Interesting idea, I can see it happening. I think this goes deeper and darker than they realise. Stop right there! Read these words of Tom. Now work your conspiracy theory around that. All Tom is saying is that Coyote doesn't know about Jeanne. It's Tom's style to mislead us through omission so it's entirely possible that Coyote knew what they were going to do to the Green Man but had no knowledge of Jeanne's involvement. Which begs the question, if Coyote does know about the arrow why would the Court hide Jeanne's involvement? Was Jeanne some kind of respected figure in the forest that Coyote wouldn't want harmed? But then why would he allow the Court to use her lover as fodder for this plan? I've always believed that Coyote knew, in some form, about the arrow because etherically sealing the ravine was an undertaking of several orders of magnitude and that's the exact thing to draw Coyote's attention. |
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Post by Jelly Jellybean on Dec 12, 2016 16:57:45 GMT
Interesting idea, I can see it happening. I think this goes deeper and darker than they realise. Stop right there! Read these words of Tom. Now work your conspiracy theory around that. Not knowing anything about Jeanne or her lover is part of Coyote's cunning plan to mess with the Court without breaking his promise to not mess with the Court. He sets a scheme in motion, removes it from his own memories, honestly denies any involvement in the scheme, and then marvelous at how interesting humans are. |
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Post by TBeholder on Dec 12, 2016 17:07:21 GMT
My immediate, overly sentimental, and most likely wrong guess is a ring he planned to give Jeanne. The odd thing is that in 'the Coward Heart', he doesn't seem to have anything in his right hand. Getting shot in the back doesn't leave much time to switch hands I suppose.. -EDIT- Now that I think about it, those were Jeanne's memories, which may be entirely not-accurate. Nor did he have anything the last time Annie have seen him in the "maze". But Kat sees it in her own way, which is kind of... more straightforward than things are. |
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