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Post by Daedalus on Oct 7, 2016 7:01:59 GMT
UH OH SH*T ABOUT TO GO DOWNWe all knew this was coming, but... I wonder why Jeanne has so much of a problem with the Fae. She dated one of the Anwyn, after all. Does the arrow warp her mind into the "ideal model" from the Court's perspective? If so, Diego is even more despicable than we thought.
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Post by Sauzels on Oct 7, 2016 7:09:55 GMT
In the words of some of the greatest minds in America, "Uh-oh Spaghettios" I wonder why Jeanne has so much of a problem with the Fae. She dated one of the Anwyn, after all. Does the arrow warp her mind into the "ideal model" from the Court's perspective? If so, Diego is even more despicable than we thought. I didn't really interpret that as her having a problem with the Fae in general, but just (understandably) angry that she's been tricked into believing an illusion for a few hours now.
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Post by Trillium on Oct 7, 2016 7:23:47 GMT
Perhaps Red will show her true colors and be useful.
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Post by arf on Oct 7, 2016 7:24:30 GMT
I think, George, that it's high time you gathered up your chicks and *bipped* out of there.
(Not forgetting Annie and Kat, of course... although what the effect of TPing Annie's body will have...!?)
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Post by rafk on Oct 7, 2016 7:42:51 GMT
The Charlie just met the Foxtrot.
Any time now, Annie. No rush.
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Post by imaginaryfriend on Oct 7, 2016 7:44:21 GMT
I think the current mind warp that Jeanne's mind is rebelling against is from the Blue one EXCEPT that bit about the sword being part of her. That's Diego's handiwork. Not sure that she's been stuck there for hours, the time lapses between panels in #1697-#1701 may be part of the illusion... though they probably had the Blue one hold her a while to make sure she was stuck. I think from the dialogue they've had her trapped maybe 10-15min, probably not much longer. It does take a little while to land a raft and search for arrows, I guess, though they should have already known about where to look.
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Post by madragoran on Oct 7, 2016 7:46:48 GMT
Jeanne must have been very formidable when she was alive. We know her as a wraith and through the eyes of Diego and his creations. I would have loved to see her story from her pov or at least a relatively unbiased one. Also I figure someone is going to get diced and diced soon. Kat is going to be in really deep stuff all alone in that boat really soon. Btw how long has Tom been tweeting about "Our" comic beeing updated? Does our mean he includes us the readers as shareholders (in the most loose figurative way ofc)?
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Post by arf on Oct 7, 2016 7:53:32 GMT
While Tom is preparing for a con, I think Mort is being allowed to run the twitter account (Twitter being as good a way of ensuring the world keeps spinning as any). Hence 'our' comic. Why? Well, maybe Tea's having a break.
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Post by Bontage on Oct 7, 2016 7:56:34 GMT
The Charlie just met the Foxtrot. It's not related to anything comic-wise, but now I'm imagining two different dance parties from the 50's accidentally smooshing into one another and creating some brand new dance sensation. Or possibly lots of death and destruction. One or the other.
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Post by freeman on Oct 7, 2016 8:20:14 GMT
How I see it, Jeanne recognizes Parley as the Protector of the court, so she even could have some authority in speaking their way out from this. She just should know this. Like "look, we are trying to undone our ancestors' mistakes. Please spend some time with me in this pleasant illusion, tell us a story or something - about the green guy, yeah!, while our crack team of experts is working on that arrow thingy."
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Post by snowflake on Oct 7, 2016 9:48:16 GMT
Perhaps Red will show her true colors and be useful. Do we know what special abilities Red has?
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Post by Sauzels on Oct 7, 2016 11:01:41 GMT
Not sure that she's been stuck there for hours, the time lapses between panels in #1697-#1701 may be part of the illusion... though they probably had the Blue one hold her a while to make sure she was stuck. I think from the dialogue they've had her trapped maybe 10-15min, probably not much longer. It does take a little while to land a raft and search for arrows, I guess, though they should have already known about where to look. It'd still be hours to her though.
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Post by casualobserver on Oct 7, 2016 12:00:37 GMT
If Jeanne knew Parley as being a coward before then perhaps she may recognize her as more of a kindred spirit (kindred spirit, heh,heh). I'm so hoping for a happy ending here but all I fear is some impending bloodshed.
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Post by Sauzels on Oct 7, 2016 12:08:40 GMT
If Jeanne knew Parley as being a coward before then perhaps she may recognize her as more of a kindred spirit (kindred spirit, heh,heh). I'm so hoping for a happy ending here but all I fear is some impending bloodshed. I dunno, I don't think Jeanne would exactly see hiding behind an illusion as a particularly brave thing to do.
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Post by csj on Oct 7, 2016 12:47:24 GMT
This could be a
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faetal mistake.
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Post by ctso74 on Oct 7, 2016 13:38:30 GMT
This could be a ... ... ... faetal mistake. Indeed. I don't mean to imply that things are looking gnome good, but let's hob they've planned for this contingency. This situation could get elfed up pretty quickly.
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Post by darlos9d on Oct 7, 2016 13:52:13 GMT
How I see it, Jeanne recognizes Parley as the Protector of the court, so she even could have some authority in speaking their way out from this. She just should know this. Like "look, we are trying to undone our ancestors' mistakes. Please spend some time with me in this pleasant illusion, tell us a story or something - about the green guy, yeah!, while our crack team of experts is working on that arrow thingy."Yeah, and even by the simple fact that Jeanne thought Parley was a friend for a while, I've been kinda wishing that Parley would maybe actually try to plead with Jeanne a bit, rather than just wordlessly fighting her. Like, hey, I know this is crazy and this looks bad but we're actually trying to help you I swear, PLEASE listen. Seems like a bit of a missed opportunity. If this ordeal ends with no real direct communication with Jeanne then I'm going to be kinda disappointed. Direct communication with Jeanne AFTER she kills somebody doesn't count either.
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Post by haspen on Oct 7, 2016 14:46:49 GMT
I continue to be slightly disconcerted by the ongoing events.
Heavens! I think it might even go a little awry in near future. That would be soul-rustling at best.
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Post by Trillium on Oct 7, 2016 15:05:32 GMT
Perhaps Red will show her true colors and be useful. Do we know what special abilities Red has? I don't think we do, so this could be a nice surprise or Red is just one of the gang who will need rescuing.
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Post by Grabix on Oct 7, 2016 15:35:41 GMT
We all knew this was coming, but... I wonder why Jeanne has so much of a problem with the Fae. Probably no problem at all. She just knew that some fairies have ability to "warp" minds.
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Post by atteSmythe on Oct 7, 2016 15:50:15 GMT
Okay, that's it. Abort! Abort!
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Post by Refugee on Oct 7, 2016 21:21:07 GMT
How I see it, Jeanne recognizes Parley as the Protector of the court, so she even could have some authority in speaking their way out from this. She just should know this. Like "look, we are trying to undone our ancestors' mistakes. Please spend some time with me in this pleasant illusion, tell us a story or something - about the green guy, yeah!, while our crack team of experts is working on that arrow thingy."Pretty much what I wanted to see a few episodes ago. Parley needed to establish that she was Jeane's friend, and that other friends were working to free her and her green lover. Instead Parley shifted to fighting in defense of Robot. She was not able to de-escalate the conflict. But then, Smitty's the medium, the diplomat.
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Post by snowflake on Oct 8, 2016 10:30:21 GMT
Everyone is a bit hard on Parley, I think. Outside of the illusion, Jeanne has killed a lot of people, and seems to have limited ability to refrain from attacking. Inside of the illusion, Jeanne doesn't know she's dead. The illusion may crumble unexpectedly. Telling Jeanne the truth and being vulnerable to her reaction, however satisfying it may be story wise, would be an all-or-nothing gamble Parley is afraid to take. I think this will be Smitty's big break as a diplomat who is more than a luck generator.
I do hope there's meaningful communication with Jeanne, in general and for George in particular, before this ends. I hope Jeanne gets a moment of clarity and leaves a final record. I hope to see Annie and Muut have a conversation after it's all over: so much has changed since they last met.
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Post by zbeeblebrox on Oct 8, 2016 20:49:21 GMT
How I see it, Jeanne recognizes Parley as the Protector of the court, so she even could have some authority in speaking their way out from this. She just should know this. Like "look, we are trying to undone our ancestors' mistakes. Please spend some time with me in this pleasant illusion, tell us a story or something - about the green guy, yeah!, while our crack team of experts is working on that arrow thingy."Pretty much what I wanted to see a few episodes ago. Parley needed to establish that she was Jeane's friend, and that other friends were working to free her and her green lover. Instead Parley shifted to fighting in defense of Robot. She was not able to de-escalate the conflict. But then, Smitty's the medium, the diplomat. I...don't think reasoning with Jeanne's vengeful spirit is the best strategy.
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Post by gpvos on Oct 9, 2016 13:27:10 GMT
Rage-ghost kill-them-all mode in 3... 2... 1...
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Post by TBeholder on Oct 9, 2016 16:16:58 GMT
Btw how long has Tom been tweeting about "Our" comic beeing updated? Editorial "We". Not to be confused with Royal We, Bastard We, Hivemind We, or plain plural "we". Outside of the illusion, Jeanne has killed a lot of people, and seems to have limited ability to refrain from attacking. Inside of the illusion, Jeanne doesn't know she's dead. The illusion may crumble unexpectedly. Telling Jeanne the truth and being vulnerable to her reaction, however satisfying it may be story wise, would be an all-or-nothing gamble Parley is afraid to take. Indeed. And it's hard to gauge exactly how far Jeanne is from "chop anything that moves". I think this will be Smitty's big break as a diplomat who is more than a luck generator. After seeing how his reputation escalated in minutes on his visit across the bridge... Another good question is: why his "luck generator" effect didn't prevent this mess from escalation, starting with appearance of S13?
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Post by saardvark on Oct 9, 2016 21:45:02 GMT
Outside of the illusion, Jeanne has killed a lot of people, and seems to have limited ability to refrain from attacking. Inside of the illusion, Jeanne doesn't know she's dead. The illusion may crumble unexpectedly. Telling Jeanne the truth and being vulnerable to her reaction, however satisfying it may be story wise, would be an all-or-nothing gamble Parley is afraid to take. Indeed. And it's hard to gauge exactly how far Jeanne is from "chop anything that moves". I think this will be Smitty's big break as a diplomat who is more than a luck generator. After seeing how his reputation escalated in minutes on his visit across the bridge... Another good question is: why his "luck generator" effect didn't prevent this mess from escalation, starting with appearance of S13? Well, Jeanne didn't kill Annie on first encounter, just left a small etheric cut on her cheek - a test to see what she was, would she bleed, maybe? And she didnt seem to go all out against Parley the first time either, though as Parley herself said, Jeanne could easily have killed her. So there is some evidence that Jeanne has held back in the past, and doesnt go "full lethal rage mode" all the time. As for Smitty, maybe S13's appearance *was* luck - maybe he wasn't part of the original plan, but "as luck would have it" (i.e., Smitty) S13 followed them and intervened, buying them valuable time (at cost to itself, but Kat can repair him hopefully...).
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Post by snowflake on Oct 10, 2016 4:56:47 GMT
Well, Jeanne didn't kill Annie on first encounter, just left a small etheric cut on her cheek - a test to see what she was, would she bleed, maybe? I hadn't considered this possibility. I read it as Jeanne marking Annie. It's clear by then that there's a special connection between them (why else could Jeanne cross the water), and Jeanne... "chooses" her, for lack of a better term. That is why I think that, if and when Jeanne is brought to rest, the cut will heal, and either disappear or become a scar.
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