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Post by Sky Schemer on Sept 2, 2016 7:10:08 GMT
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Post by arf on Sept 2, 2016 7:12:03 GMT
...and it is Robot. Or appears to be.
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Post by mangotango on Sept 2, 2016 7:15:20 GMT
One thing I forgot to learn after keeping up with both the comic and the forums— never underestimate the forum's intuition. I thought that the idea of it being Robot was totally far-fetched, but you never know! Especially with Tom.
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Post by Daedalus on Sept 2, 2016 7:16:24 GMT
Well. I can finally say "all is revealed" and mean it. A few interesting things:
--First, it's fitting that a (indirect) creation of Diego is the one to face Jeanne in battle. Robot's also been having trouble understanding love and emotion in the same way his progenitor once did.
--Second, if Robot can partake in this etheric simulation, do Blue's powers work on machines too? We've never seen any hint of etheric relationship between the robots and the ether.
--Third, that explains the eye placement from the last panel.
--Fourth, how did Robot even get down there? We hadn't seen him among the group.
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Post by Sky Schemer on Sept 2, 2016 7:24:38 GMT
It's a robot, not necessarily the Robot.
That being said, it could be Robot because Parley is there. She has dueled with him, and that could be creeping into the Bluniverse as a representation of Diego's creation.
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Post by philman on Sept 2, 2016 7:26:55 GMT
One thing I forgot to learn after keeping up with both the comic and the forums— never underestimate the forum's intuition. I thought that the idea of it being Robot was totally far-fetched, but you never know! Especially with Tom. I think it's more a case of throw enough crazy ideas at the wall and ONE of them will be right. EDIT: saying that though, cookies for those who did say it was Robot in a wig... |
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Post by keef on Sept 2, 2016 7:38:53 GMT
Well. I can finally say "all is revealed" and mean it. A few interesting things: --First, it's fitting that a (indirect) creation of Diego is the one to face Jeanne in battle. Robot's also been having trouble understanding love and emotion in the same way his progenitor once did. --Second, if Robot can partake in this etheric simulation, do Blue's powers work on machines too? We've never seen any hint of etheric relationship between the robots and the ether. Robot is no longer a mere machine. He felt pain and love. Well, we've seen him jumping down high buildings since Kat first gave him a new body. |
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Post by Sky Schemer on Sept 2, 2016 7:41:47 GMT
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Post by speedwell on Sept 2, 2016 7:44:52 GMT
Robot was a Seraph-class machine. Those are the ones that we observed reenacting the fight in Kat's lab. It could be any of those, or indeed none of them (we are after all in a sort of dream scenario). I could easily see the figure being a way of depicting the collaboration between Annie and Kat, given that Annie is capable of making basic repairs to the Court robots, and Kat is their motivating "angel".
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Post by cb3 on Sept 2, 2016 7:54:03 GMT
I'm just hoping that Robot has had enough gym time. That new arm was looking pretty fragile the last time we saw it and it'd be a bad time for a muscle tear.
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Post by imaginaryfriend on Sept 2, 2016 7:59:06 GMT
One thing I forgot to learn after keeping up with both the comic and the forums— never underestimate the forum's intuition. I thought that the idea of it being Robot was totally far-fetched, but you never know! Especially with Tom. I think it's more a case of throw enough crazy ideas at the wall and ONE of them will be right. EDIT: saying that though, cookies for those who did say it was Robot in a wig... The ability to cover that dart board with darts is one of the advantages to puzzling things out in a group. |
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Post by Lightice on Sept 2, 2016 8:20:13 GMT
Huh. I wonder if Robot's new pseudo-organic arm allows him to interact with the Ether directly?
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Post by madragoran on Sept 2, 2016 9:04:22 GMT
*throws hands in the air and goes Fah!*
I can't wait to see how it resolves. Btw when people read it in book form it's going to be BRILLIANT!
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Post by foresterr on Sept 2, 2016 9:33:28 GMT
Second, if Robot can partake in this etheric simulation, do Blue's powers work on machines too? We've never seen any hint of etheric relationship between the robots and the ether. Simplest answer (to me), it's an AR setup. From Robot's POV, he might be just fencing with a ghost on the shore. Yah I know, BORING. The last panel fits well with this explanation, if you interpret it as cutting through the sim. Boy, is Jeanne gonna get pissed now. Or amused. Or both. One of those horrible little toys, fencing with her! |
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Post by gpvos on Sept 2, 2016 9:39:53 GMT
Leave it to Tom to come up with the answer that most complicates things.
Cookies for those who called this.
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Post by Jelly Jellybean on Sept 2, 2016 10:47:47 GMT
Since I was so wrong about it not being Robot... Maybe Robot was part of the plan from the beginning. The gang was talking openly about Jeanne during Robot's fencing session, like Robot and Shadow were part of the gang. Smitty is important, but he isn't a fighter and someone needs to protect everyone while their minds are in the ether. Parley could not best Robot without teleporting, but Jeanne quickly slashed his face off in an even fight. I know the move was necessary for the plot, but it also reiterates how futile it is for any of them to fight Jeanne and hope to achieve more than a short distraction. |
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Post by zaferion on Sept 2, 2016 11:00:02 GMT
Does Robot's new arm give him etheric presence and allow him inside of that blue one's illusions? Parley could not best Robot without teleporting, but Jeanne quickly slashed his face off in an even fight. Jeanne really has a thing for faces, huh? |
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Post by kreiri on Sept 2, 2016 12:02:07 GMT
Doesn't Robot have green "eyes", not red?
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Post by Trillium on Sept 2, 2016 12:49:23 GMT
While somewhat confused all I can say...looking at this page is...magnificent!
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Post by QuotePilgrim on Sept 2, 2016 13:00:29 GMT
Doesn't Robot have green "eyes", not red? He’s a Robot, his eyes can likely change color. And they are not red here, they are orange. Red-orange, maybe, but definitely not red. |
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Post by Eversist on Sept 2, 2016 13:01:34 GMT
Doesn't Robot have green "eyes", not red? He’s a Robot, his eyes can likely change color. And they are not red here, they are orange. Red-orange, maybe, but definitely not red. Yep, most if not all of the robots eyes change color based on mood or context. We've seen it before. |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 2, 2016 13:03:52 GMT
The ability to cover that dart board with darts is one of the advantages to puzzling things out in a group. True, but when the board has been riddled with darts, hitting the gaps nonetheless proves the marksman. |
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Post by fish on Sept 2, 2016 13:14:13 GMT
Doesn't Robot have green "eyes", not red? All robots have three modes of eye colour: green, orange and red. It's something like a "danger scale", I think. My interpretation is green: "Everything's fine", orange: "danger close by, activate defences", red: "imminent danger, engage in combat!". Or someting like that. It's best illustrated on pages 1129 and 1130, but we've seen other instances. Well, Picasso-face being Robot is quite obvious in hindsight, though I did not see it coming. More cookies from me! Now let's continue ths game of darts, there is still plenty of space on this target. Personally I doubt that Robot is now suddenly in tune with the ether and is standing around all spaced out like the ladies on shore. I'm with foresterr on this one. We don't see Robot in the set-up panel on page 1705; I suspect he was standing somewhere behind Jeanne. Once Jeanne started to break through the illusion, either Blue let Robot manifest as Picasso-face behind Jeanne, or Jeanne was able to sense him on her own. Now she's fighting him on the shore for real while still being trapped in the illusion. Aaand now she's cutting it apart like a curtain. I bet Parley is using this distraction to prepare for her own upcoming clash with the psycho rage ghost of hate. Just as planned! Right? Right? It's a bit sad that Jeanne will have to experience this new betrayal by someone she feels is a "friend". Poor murderous soul. Another sad thing is Jeanne's line which was taken as the thread title: "My sword is... a part of me". On the one hand we know through Rey's observations that Jeanne was a woman most comfortable whith her sword in hand. She is regaining her composure trough her sword. On the other hand, she is the Court's ghostly sentinel and her sword is literally a part of her. And a part of her prison; one of the reasons she was chosen for this. |
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Post by TBeholder on Sept 2, 2016 13:14:28 GMT
One thing I forgot to learn after keeping up with both the comic and the forums— never underestimate the forum's intuition. I thought that the idea of it being Robot was totally far-fetched, but you never know! Especially with Tom. I think it's more a case of throw enough crazy ideas at the wall and ONE of them will be right. Yeah, we all know the drill. Have enough artillery dump flechette canisters in the general direction of the dart board, and nothing can escape perforation, not even the bullseye.  Robot is no longer a mere machine. He felt pain and love. Also, they are not just "robots", they are golems. Huh. I wonder if Robot's new pseudo-organic arm allows him to interact with the Ether directly? It kind of worked for the Love Boat... |
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Post by ctso74 on Sept 2, 2016 13:23:15 GMT
I've been wondering why they didn't bring Robot (or bring some of those etheric-canceling ofuda). He's a capable fighter, and might have some etheric immunity.
I'm still not sure that it's Robot, though. It could be a manifestation of the robotic mind of the arrow, if there is one.
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Post by sheepy on Sept 2, 2016 13:32:26 GMT
What if it is the robot that looks like Robot that was spying on Kat, robot and shadow for the court, and now has come to sabotage their plan?
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Post by jda on Sept 2, 2016 14:53:47 GMT
Doesn't Robot have green "eyes", not red? All robots have three modes of eye colour: green, orange and red. It's something like a "danger scale", I think. My interpretation is green: "Everything's fine", orange: "danger close by, activate defences", red: "imminent danger, engage in combat!". Or someting like that. It's best illustrated on pages 1129 and 1130, . About it being Robot, with orange eyes on this panel,we can see on those mentioned pages that show robotic eyes color change, I am a little amazed that Robot's eyes are orange even when "he" is receiving a direct face slash. Is Robot cool and contained, only biding his time to distract her from the river shenanigans? Or is Jeanne too fast even for his threat sensors to react accordingly? |
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Post by Corvo on Sept 2, 2016 15:03:23 GMT
Probably some kind of etheric shenanigans caused by (1)Blue's power, (2)whatever is trapping Jeane down there and (3)George's memories of robot. Yeah, that's definetely it. Probably. Maybe. who knows. whatever.
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Post by yla on Sept 2, 2016 16:32:16 GMT
I foresee Jeanne reacting very understanding and gracefully to the descendants of Diego's creations.
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Post by Daedalus on Sept 2, 2016 16:34:58 GMT
All robots have three modes of eye colour: green, orange and red. It's something like a "danger scale", I think. My interpretation is green: "Everything's fine", orange: "danger close by, activate defences", red: "imminent danger, engage in combat!". Or someting like that. It's best illustrated on pages 1129 and 1130, . About it being Robot, with orange eyes on this panel,we can see on those mentioned pages that show robotic eyes color change, I am a little amazed that Robot's eyes are orange even when "he" is receiving a direct face slash. Is Robot cool and contained, only biding his time to distract her from the river shenanigans? Or is Jeanne too fast even for his threat sensors to react accordingly? Given the watercolor-like tonality of this page, I thought that his eyes are indeed red. Jeanne's dress was red in previous panels, and it's about the same color as his eyes. |
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