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Post by Daedalus on Aug 31, 2016 7:00:42 GMT
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Post by arf on Aug 31, 2016 7:03:25 GMT
Is Jeanne fighting herself?
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Post by Max on Aug 31, 2016 7:06:39 GMT
What's that symbol in the sword fighter's mouth? It looks almost like Jones's Wandering Eye symbol, but I don't see how that would make sense. |
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Post by Daedalus on Aug 31, 2016 7:09:07 GMT
What's that symbol in the sword fighter's mouth? It looks almost like Jones's Wandering Eye symbol, but I don't see how that would make sense. I just thought that's his eye, as if he were a warped Picasso character. |
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Post by Daedalus on Aug 31, 2016 7:09:27 GMT
Hmmm. Even though there's less confirmation, I don't think that the Phantom Swordsman is Annie. The hair color somewhat matches, but Annie isn't doing anything aggressive towards Jeanne (unless Annie touching the arrow counts as aggressive due to the arrow warping Jeanne's perspective). I don't think it's a distorted memory of Diego, either, because he was never the "physical assault" kind of guy. Notice in the last "panel" how she manifested her sword. She's starting to gain greater control over herself in the dream...and since her "normal" form is a psychotic ghost, that's not a good thing. I'm getting more and more worried with every new page. His face reminds me more and more of Zimmy's Nobodies. Is the arrow affecting the ether in a similar way to Zimmy's powers? If so, perhaps that's one of the reasons the dream is becoming ever more unstable (just like Zimmy's instability). And the previous time we harnessed Zimmy's powers, this happened. Could we see another appearance from Robokat soon? |
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Post by Gotolei on Aug 31, 2016 7:13:08 GMT
I think it was mentioned last thread, but it might be a last-ditch distraction courtesy of not-Blue. Keeping her mind busy on something other than "this isn't real."
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Post by arf on Aug 31, 2016 7:13:54 GMT
First Smitty, then Tony Carver. My impression *now* is that the figure has elements of Robot in it (a skilled fencer, possibly skimmed from George's memory?)
Overlays. As I said just now, I think it's Jeanne's alter ego that's managed to peel off from the illusion state, and which is now taking on the biggest threat.
(addendum: If so, then the brief glimpse of Jeanne separating out makes more sense.)
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Post by chrisjenl on Aug 31, 2016 7:14:52 GMT
I think its Annie but trough the filter of the device Annie try to remove. That is why she attack every one who going in. Not because want but because she need to defend her self.
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Post by bedinsis on Aug 31, 2016 7:18:22 GMT
What if it's George, who teleported to the position of the backdrop person?
Though why she'd want Jeanne to believe there is a person attacking her with a sword is beyond me.
It's probably someone else.
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Post by Trillium on Aug 31, 2016 7:29:13 GMT
What's that symbol in the sword fighter's mouth? It looks almost like Jones's Wandering Eye symbol, but I don't see how that would make sense. I just thought that's his eye, as if he were a warped Picasso character. Is that the alchemist symbol for the sun? As for what it means I have no idea yet. |
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Post by snowflake on Aug 31, 2016 7:33:25 GMT
(addendum: If so, then the brief glimpse of Jeanne separating out makes more sense.) Was she separating out, or were her two manifestations, Bluniverse!Jeanne and Rageghost!Jeanne, being pulled into one as the illusion weakened? I read it as the latter. |
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Post by keef on Aug 31, 2016 7:36:20 GMT
First Smitty, then Tony Carver. My impression *now* is that the figure has elements of Robot in it (a skilled fencer, possibly skimmed from George's memory?) It's Robot in a wig! Or maybe Blue making up something to divert attention. Like the Gol-Shogeg @cgadams suggested. |
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Post by Trillium on Aug 31, 2016 7:40:50 GMT
First Smitty, then Tony Carver. My impression *now* is that the figure has elements of Robot in it (a skilled fencer, possibly skimmed from George's memory?) It's Robot in a wig! Or maybe Blue making up something to divert attention. Like the Gol-Shogeg @cgadams suggested. Could be. We're still in the mental fantasy so maybe Blue is doing this to keep Jeanne's attention away from what Annie is doing. |
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Post by CGAdam on Aug 31, 2016 7:56:29 GMT
First Smitty, then Tony Carver. My impression *now* is that the figure has elements of Robot in it (a skilled fencer, possibly skimmed from George's memory?) It's Robot in a wig! Or maybe Blue making up something to divert attention. Like the Gol-Shogeg @cgadams suggested. Hah, I was just thinking it might be Robot. |
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Post by KMar on Aug 31, 2016 8:35:41 GMT
Blue dressing up Robot to look like Tony in Ether-Vision ... okay, I can believe that. Though WHY. But Robot wasn't seen here. So I'm inclined to guess it's just a phantom shadow vision created by Blue to distract Jeanne. (That's shy it looks so sketchy.) |
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Post by zaferion on Aug 31, 2016 8:46:45 GMT
Blue dressing up Robot to look like Tony in Ether-Vision ... okay, I can believe that. Though WHY. But Robot wasn't seen here. So I'm inclined to guess it's just a phantom shadow vision created by Blue to distract Jeanne. (That's shy it looks so sketchy.) Your mention of Robot brings up a good question. Why are they using Parley for this and not Robot??? Robot was shown to be able to move and attack in an infinitesimal fraction of a second from a neutral at-ready position to a full length lunge. No matter how fast Jeanne is, there's no way she can compete with that. |
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Post by tiberius on Aug 31, 2016 9:44:04 GMT
I think it was mentioned last thread, but it might be a last-ditch distraction courtesy of not-Blue. Keeping her mind busy on something other than "this isn't real." This makes most sense for me today. This would also explain the eye in the mouth since it this character is drawn hastily by not-Blue and he doesn't have a face. Not-Blue simply didn't have the time yet to fully build the character since she is busy distracting Jeanne and keeping the sharade alive. I wonder, though, if Jeanne's blade is made by herself or is part of the illusion to help the distraction. My guess, it's not Jeanne's thoughts, since she was using the rapier not the longsword it seems to be. Wasn't there a detailed bonus page about the different types of swords? |
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Post by Corvo on Aug 31, 2016 10:54:39 GMT
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Post by Fen on Aug 31, 2016 11:46:40 GMT
Huh. Random archive-browsing, and that symbol turns up again here on Kat's side of the tree - on the branch corresponding to Annie's fire abilities, too, suggesting it represents her talents with tech. |
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Post by ctso74 on Aug 31, 2016 13:21:52 GMT
I'm thinking it's Jeanne's aggressive side, as well. The part of her shaped by the arrow's "programming". The Spirit of the Arrow.
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Post by Eversist on Aug 31, 2016 13:42:20 GMT
For now I'm leaning towards Robot too. He considers (-ed?) Annie his "mom," so the hair makes sense. And two eyes in the wrong place. But if it's fighting Jeanne I would imagine she'd see something of Diego in him. Maybe that will happen next. I also like this one: I think its Annie but trough the filter of the device Annie try to remove. That is why she attack every one who going in. Not because want but because she need to defend her self. But my favorite theory is always: Tom will surprise us. Hah. |
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Post by philistine21 on Aug 31, 2016 14:21:13 GMT
For now I'm leaning towards Robot too. He considers (-ed?) Annie his "mom," so the hair makes sense. And two eyes in the wrong place. But if it's fighting Jeanne I would imagine she'd see something of Diego in him. Maybe that will happen next. I don't think that robot could enter Blue's illusion any more than Smitty could visit with the fairies. |
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Post by Eversist on Aug 31, 2016 15:38:09 GMT
I don't think that robot could enter Blue's illusion any more than Smitty could visit with the fairies. You make a good point! But I think it might be a blending of reality and illusion at this point, since Blue seems to be losing control on some level. |
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Post by atteSmythe on Aug 31, 2016 15:42:40 GMT
Yeah, and it would make some sense for Robot to crash the party.
"Last time, she died, and we did nothing. This time, we must do something to save our Angel."
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Post by cb3 on Aug 31, 2016 16:25:22 GMT
I can't decide if this is a response from a defence mechanism within the Green Arrow or if Robot is crashing the party, although the former is more likely as I cannot see how/why Robot should be in the ether (unless Not-Blue paints him there). Although the lunge is reminiscent of when Robot was sparring with Parley.
Also, Annie, if you are going to do something with that arrow, do get on with it.
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Post by keef on Aug 31, 2016 16:25:54 GMT
 Can't say it's a striking resemblance... two dots and a dot instead of two dots and a square, but it's possible. For now I'm leaning towards Robot too. He considers (-ed?) Annie his "mom," so the hair makes sense. And two eyes in the wrong place. But if it's fighting Jeanne I would imagine she'd see something of Diego in him. Maybe that will happen next. I don't think that robot could enter Blue's illusion any more than Smitty could visit with the fairies. Robot changed immediately after getting his new arm, who knows how much progress he made since. But it's a long-shot, it would mean he spied on Annie and friends to find out about this (he would never do something like that of course  ), and then followed them (jumped?). If it is him, it changes everything. I think most readers assume Robot will die at some point in the comic, to become the first robot to enter the ether, but I don't think anyone expected that now. If it is Robot, can he really fight Jeanne? He is programmed to love her. |
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Post by atteSmythe on Aug 31, 2016 16:32:51 GMT
Can't say it's a striking resemblance... two dots and a dot instead of two dots and a square, but it's possible. Hm, vertical eye on the wrong side of the head, does make it less likely to be Robot then IMO. |
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Post by Sky Schemer on Aug 31, 2016 19:26:52 GMT
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Post by birdwhisperer on Aug 31, 2016 21:32:55 GMT
My impression *now* is that the figure has elements of Robot in it (a skilled fencer, possibly skimmed from George's memory?) This was also my first thought (upon second viewing). I don't know how it would work or make sense, but I'm definitely getting a robot vibe from the fencer. Maybe Robot found the gang and jumped down to save them (though on second thought it would be difficult to imagine him threatening Jeanne...). If not the Robot, maybe a robot? Perhaps Diego built a safeguard into the device, and this is how it's manifesting to Jeanne? The guy is known for working with robots. Oh, or perhaps the 'robot' guy is Kat's doing? And then there's the weird Antimony/Tony hair, and I just noticed there's something weird going on with the figure's hands. I just don't knoooooooooow... |
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Post by linchie on Aug 31, 2016 21:35:44 GMT
I guess it could be Robot; we've seen him fighting with a sword in chapter about Parley and Smitty, and his distorted appearance may be like that because it is hard for Blue to make him look like a human in the ether?
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), and then followed them (jumped?). If it is him, it changes everything. I think most readers assume Robot will die at some point in the comic, to become the first robot to enter the ether, but I don't think anyone expected that now. 
