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Post by haspen on Aug 24, 2016 7:03:14 GMT
Oh damn.Does this mean that Jeanne is 'jerked' back to reality due to someone (Annie) so close to the arrow? If yes, ABORT ABORT
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Post by rafk on Aug 24, 2016 7:04:35 GMT
Can't read my
Can't read my
No you can't read my melty face
Melty face
(She's got to love nobody)
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Post by Rea on Aug 24, 2016 7:07:49 GMT
It kinda looks to me like the arrow is keeping "good" and "bad" Jeanne apart and removing it might reunite them. Also, that although the arrow hit the elf guy it also pierced Jeanne in some way. Of course, I'm most likely wrong.  |
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Post by arf on Aug 24, 2016 7:07:55 GMT
The fan has just emitted a wet splatting sound...
(NB: Annie hasn't *quite* touched the arrow yet)
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Post by haspen on Aug 24, 2016 7:11:26 GMT
(NB: Annie hasn't *quite* touched the arrow yet) Some proximity-detector-enchantment-spell-thing at works, maybe? |
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Post by youwiththeface on Aug 24, 2016 7:12:57 GMT
Yes Annie. Take your sweet time removing that arrow. I'm sure giving Jeanne the time to revert won't cause any problems for anyone.
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Post by Rea on Aug 24, 2016 7:21:00 GMT
The arrow didn't have a pointy tip the last time we saw it. Or at least I thought it didn't. That would be a strange tip for an arrow, maybe it was a cover of some sort? EDIT: It's also possible that the arrow was just the delivery method for the device on its tip, and removing it will do nothing. They have to dig the device out. |
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Post by Daedalus on Aug 24, 2016 7:22:11 GMT
OF ALL THE NIGHTS I COULD HAVE FORGOTTEN TO LOG ON AT MIDNIGHT, WHY DID IT HAVE TO BE THIS ONE?
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Post by bedinsis on Aug 24, 2016 7:27:52 GMT
I wonder if Red's friend will be able to keep the illusion running now; that looked like it could end it.
Or maybe Parley will say something akin to "Have you fallen ill?" thereby letting Jeanne accept the feelings induced by the arrow touching as part of "reality".
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Post by Daedalus on Aug 24, 2016 7:39:17 GMT
A few random thoughts:
It's interesting how Jeanne's hair seems to be doing the same thing Annie's did in the ether. Flowing between "panels", etc. I wonder if Jeanne was ether-sensitive. We've seen in the case of Steadman that an etheric affinity for a weapon is possible. Maybe that's why she's so good at fencing.
I feel like it's relevant how the arrow is penetrating Jeanne's etheric body near the bottom of the page. I feel like that is weak evidence that it's trapping her spirit directly. It demonstrates that she is at least somewhat etherically tied to the Arrow, since if she just stayed because her lover's spirit was trapped there, she probably wouldn't have been disturbed by Annie's interference.
Or, wild-spec time: we've always assumed that the purpose of sacrificing Jeanne was to create a guardian of the Annan Waters (to prevent the inhabitants of the Forest from crossing over). But what is that was a side effect, not the main intent? Perhaps she functions as the guardian of the Green Arrow itself, which has some as-yet-undisclosed purpose that Diego created. He may have even hidden this purpose from the other founders of the Court.
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Post by mangotango on Aug 24, 2016 8:02:10 GMT
Annie noooooooo!! The Parley/Smitty partners in crime might need to do something pretty quickly over there... hope the rest of the chapter doesn't turn out so bad. Also, that although the arrow hit the elf guy it also pierced Jeanne in some way. Of course, I'm most likely wrong. That sounds incredibly cheesy, but I admit that I like that idea. ;D |
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Post by mangotango on Aug 24, 2016 8:04:24 GMT
Also, side note: the title was exactly what I had in mind when reading this page, and I commend the one who thought up the onomatopoeia for it because I sure wouldn't have thought of it, lmao
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Post by Daedalus on Aug 24, 2016 8:25:28 GMT
it also pierced Jeanne in some way ♫ shot through the heart, and you're to blame ♫ |
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Post by arf on Aug 24, 2016 8:46:58 GMT
... wild-spec time: we've always assumed that the purpose of sacrificing Jeanne was to create a guardian of the Annan Waters (to prevent the inhabitants of the Forest from crossing over). But what is that was a side effect, not the main intent? Perhaps she functions as the guardian of the Green Arrow itself, which has some as-yet-undisclosed purpose that Diego created. He may have even hidden this purpose from the other founders of the Court. shows Diego addressing the Council saying that "It must be Jeanne. The plan will work with nobody else." Now, we don't *why* it wouldn't work, and the next page we do see Diego telling Jeanne that it didn't have to be this way. It's possible that Diego formed several plans, and chose this one in a fit of jealous rage. |
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Post by tiberius on Aug 24, 2016 9:18:27 GMT
... wild-spec time: we've always assumed that the purpose of sacrificing Jeanne was to create a guardian of the Annan Waters (to prevent the inhabitants of the Forest from crossing over). But what is that was a side effect, not the main intent? Perhaps she functions as the guardian of the Green Arrow itself, which has some as-yet-undisclosed purpose that Diego created. He may have even hidden this purpose from the other founders of the Court. shows Diego addressing the Council saying that "It must be Jeanne. The plan will work with nobody else." Now, we don't *why* it wouldn't work, and the next page we do see Diego telling Jeanne that it didn't have to be this way. It's possible that Diego formed several plans, and chose this one in a fit of jealous rage. I doubt that Dieo had layered motives. For him, Jeanne was the only choice. Because Diego knew that Jeanne was so deeply in love with the other one as he was so deeply in love with her. [edit] For romantics, he probably has put in a lot of the hate against the forest-man into his invention. This is why it worked so well. This also would explain his 'apology' to Jeanne. If she had been true to him, he never would have needed to do this. [/edit]The court needed someone who would fit several criteria: Deeply affected by the death of someone, and an excellent fighter to keep away even strong psychopomps to 'protect' the court .
Her reaction now makes somewhat sense to me. All this happens in the ether where boundaries are less obvious. We have seen this a few times where Annie or someone else is not only reaching for something but this something actually moves towards her, too. And my guess is, that the arrow is already affected by any/Annie's etherical self being closeby. The image of Jeanne now displays her inner conflict nicely, I think. Her raging self is now awake and seems to fight against the illusion and her calmer self trying to come forward and making sure, nobody would mess with her.
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Post by hifranc on Aug 24, 2016 9:34:25 GMT
The arrow didn't have a pointy tip the last time we saw it. Or at least I thought it didn't. That would be a strange tip for an arrow, maybe it was a cover of some sort? EDIT: It's also possible that the arrow was just the delivery method for the device on its tip, and removing it will do nothing. They have to dig the device out. It could also be that the "point" is just a way of merging the arrow with the image of Jeanne? {edit} Especially as the shaft is a lot shorter than it should be. |
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Post by brokshi on Aug 24, 2016 9:52:10 GMT
And here I thought Jeanne was actually aware of the ongoing ruse. Doesn't seem like she was before this, at least. As a sidenote, seeing her faces melt into one another is incredibly creepy.
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Post by OGRuddawg on Aug 24, 2016 10:43:13 GMT
I think Jeanne might be more upset that the illusion they created was the happiest she has felt since that night. She might not even act like a sentinel, just a broken spirit lashing out at the ones who tricked her. I really feel sorry for her, because she was turned into a demon/ghost against her will.
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Post by stclair on Aug 24, 2016 10:54:17 GMT
"uh oh."
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Post by Fen on Aug 24, 2016 11:15:36 GMT
{edit} Especially as the shaft is a lot shorter than it should be. I don't think the arrow is shorter, it's just impaled inside Jeanne's spirit-form. If you follow the arrow-shaft, her form stretches out over it after it goes through her back. |
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Post by saardvark on Aug 24, 2016 11:16:05 GMT
This might explain why the arrow had that odd, double pronged tip - in ether-space, it was meant to pierce and hold in place two targets...
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Post by freeman on Aug 24, 2016 11:22:46 GMT
The fan has just emitted a wet splatting sound... (NB: Annie hasn't *quite* touched the arrow yet) I got totally the wrong mental picture from this, like Gunnerkrigg Court fan person emitting that splatting sound. Because this is an exciting page. |
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Post by Gulby on Aug 24, 2016 11:29:51 GMT
Ghost Jeanne has Zimmy's eyes. The metling is... Incredibly beautiful and creepy at the same time. All of this page is just... Pheeew. I'm suspended. I need to see the next page. Pleaaaaaaaaaaase Tom, please let the things resolve with some sort of happy ending.
Daedalus, your wild-spec is really interesting, I can relate to that.
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Post by foresterr on Aug 24, 2016 11:29:57 GMT
YANK IT The arrow didn't have a pointy tip I always thought it was a rope cutter arrow. Don't know if intended, and related to the recent discovery of etheric threads binding a couple together. |
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Post by Fen on Aug 24, 2016 11:49:02 GMT
I always thought it was a rope cutter arrow. Don't know if intended, and related to the recent discovery of etheric threads binding a couple together. That... could make a heck of a lot of sense. Instead of cutting, perhaps it's designed to pin. Lovers are bound by etheric threads, so when they shot elf-guy, it pinned the threads connecting them to the bottom of the lake (or tethered them to itself somehow), leashing her soul to the lakeside. |
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Post by phyzome on Aug 24, 2016 12:41:20 GMT
I parse the art differently -- I think Annie *is* touching the arrow, with the finger that is a little occluded by it. She's going to grab and pull, right? So her finger wouldn't first make contact with the very tip, but rather the side.
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Post by hp on Aug 24, 2016 13:00:11 GMT
OH SHIT OH SHIT OH SHIT
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Post by csj on Aug 24, 2016 13:12:06 GMT
on the bright side, dying in the waters isn't a new experience for red and blue... I always thought it was a rope cutter arrow. Don't know if intended, and related to the recent discovery of etheric threads binding a couple together. That... could make a heck of a lot of sense. Instead of cutting, perhaps it's designed to pin. Lovers are bound by etheric threads, so when they shot elf-guy, it pinned the threads connecting them to the bottom of the lake (or tethered them to itself somehow), leashing her soul to the lakeside. I always thought it was some form of pinning and that the arrow somehow prevented escape, so this gets a +1 from me. Newer lore on etheric 'strings' helps this theory, but it does of course call to question why it 'had' to be Jeanne. Nothing to say no other person could have a strong (mutually-strengthened?) etheric bond with another... It's strongly implied that Diego's jealousy motivated the design, creation and deployment of the device. His guilt after the fact manifests in rationalising the act and passing on blame to others that were 'in' on the scheme. |
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Post by Fen on Aug 24, 2016 13:27:15 GMT
I always thought it was some form of pinning and that the arrow somehow prevented escape, so this gets a +1 from me. Newer lore on etheric 'strings' helps this theory, but it does of course call to question why it 'had' to be Jeanne. Nothing to say no other person could have a strong (mutually-strengthened?) etheric bond with another... I always assumed it 'had' to be Jeanne in the sense that they could have used any head-over-heels-in-love expert-combatant to act as a guard, but head-over-heels-in-love expert-combatants were in short supply at the plan's concoction. And also Diego was being a lying doucheface when he said it wouldn't work with anyone else. And danke schon for the +1  |
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Post by atteSmythe on Aug 24, 2016 13:34:00 GMT
♫ shot through the heart liver, and you're to blame ♫ |
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