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Post by fwip on Jul 25, 2016 7:00:58 GMT
Things just keep getting weirder.
She has the cut on her cheek, too. What are the rules for when that appears? Is it just any time that it's in the ether? This page raises some serious issues with the Dream theory, too. If it's Jeanne's dream, how can Annie be in her dream without her noticing? If it's someone else's dream, how did they get Jeanne in there?
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Post by Daedalus on Jul 25, 2016 7:01:34 GMT
clearly another ancestor
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Post by Daedalus on Jul 25, 2016 7:02:51 GMT
or a time machine. probably a time machine.
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Post by bedinsis on Jul 25, 2016 7:05:20 GMT
Since it didn't look like Jeanne was aware of Annie's presence I am now in the "infiltrating her memories/psyche" camp.
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Post by Gotolei on Jul 25, 2016 7:05:22 GMT
If this is some amalgamation (and/or benevolent corruption) of Jeanne's memories, is that Red and Blue Red's friend that Annie is sitting with?
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Post by arf on Jul 25, 2016 7:07:40 GMT
Who's that guy with Annie?
From the hair it could be either William(!) or green guy(!!)
(Another possibility: Dr. Disaster has come up with the goods after a *really* deep dive of the Court archives?)
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Post by fish on Jul 25, 2016 7:08:50 GMT
Since it didn't look like Jeanne was aware of Annie's presence I am now in the "infiltrating her memories/psyche" camp. Yeah, looks pretty much like an infiltration. To distract her from Kat working on the arrow in the river? |
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Post by pasko on Jul 25, 2016 7:11:53 GMT
Ok, now it's clearly an "Inception" scenario.
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Post by gpvos on Jul 25, 2016 7:15:08 GMT
Is that Winsbury? Jeanne hasn't seen him before, so this can't be just her dream based on her earlier experiences (which was my previous guess).
They may have enlisted Blue's help to infiltrate her dreams.
Or the mysterious grey box in the third panel is a time machine, but then they must have spent some time there to have Parley befriend her. Unlikely.
Or Jeanne has seen further into Annie's and Parley's head than we thought, *and* has dreams with autonomous characters in it. Also rather unlikely.
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Post by fish on Jul 25, 2016 7:19:34 GMT
Maybe it's just Annie superimposed onto a figure from Jeannes memories, and the other figures are not important. Though the blue haired one could be Kat hiding tentatively.
Or they pulled Red and Blue into this whole mess, but I don't know how that would help...
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Post by chrisjenl on Jul 25, 2016 7:20:31 GMT
Since it didn't look like Jeanne was aware of Annie's presence I am now in the "infiltrating her memories/psyche" camp. Yeah, looks pretty much like an infiltration. To distract her from Kat working on the arrow in the river? i don't think so! Its really dangerous to do it Jeanne persenly to get in her aura. I think it is maybe in a painting of her. To now more about her to use so they don't have to fight her (so long) |
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Post by philman on Jul 25, 2016 7:27:15 GMT
Ok now we're clearly in the Annie and Parley getting into Jeanne's memories/visions scenario. Annie's scar (which, let us not forget was originally created by Jeanne's sword all those chapters ago) is visible meaning this must be the ether or something. I am looking forward to seeing how they got inside Jeanne's memories like this though. Who else has powers like this that we know about?
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Post by madragoran on Jul 25, 2016 7:39:07 GMT
Very very confused. What is going on? It feels like Jeanne's memories or a Jeanne dream. But ghosts don't dream, do they? And how come she and Parley are pals? And Annie as a little kid with Winsbury. As far as we know, Annie is still not as strong as she was before the blinker stone was destroyed. Confused. All the cues talk about either memories or a dream. But who is doing the dreaming?
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Post by tiberius on Jul 25, 2016 7:42:25 GMT
oh well, regardless of what exactly it is, this seems like a huge jump ahead in the storyline. And somewhere in there, Zimmy is hunting for rats in the woods.
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Post by speedwell on Jul 25, 2016 7:44:28 GMT
Red isn't the woman in the pink dress sitting with the blond child and blue-haired person, that's Annie. I don't feel like we know who the blond and the blue are yet. Some sort of etheric construction is clearly happening, mediated by Annie's powers as a psychopomp (which she had long before the blinker stone). I think we may be in the World of the Dead, the part we've already seen, where people hang out until they pass further on, and the setting is part of the etheric record.
Pure speculation: The choice of a very upper-class, high-propriety, socially strict milieu might have a lot to do with Smitty's sense of order. Perhaps his order-producing powers are the only way they (all of them, including Jeanne herself) can manage Jeanne's rage and chaos. If this is the WOTD, I wonder whose point of view we are seeing it through; I would guess Annie's. As for the box... it looks to me like a pedestal missing its statue.
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Post by philman on Jul 25, 2016 7:58:58 GMT
Very very confused. What is going on? It feels like Jeanne's memories or a Jeanne dream. But ghosts don't dream, do they? And how come she and Parley are pals? And Annie as a little kid with Winsbury. As far as we know, Annie is still not as strong as she was before the blinker stone was destroyed. Confused. All the cues talk about either memories or a dream. But who is doing the dreaming? Hmm I didn't see it before, but the one on the left DOES look like Winsbury doesn't he. Did we ever find out what Winsbury's power is? Maybe he can get inside dreams or something? I wonder if the story about Annie discovering his and Janet's relationship has some sort of payoff in this chapter. The person with purple hair on the right doesn't look like Janet though, maybe Blue? We know SHE could create things that seemed real to everyone else in the ether. |
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Post by fish on Jul 25, 2016 8:07:55 GMT
Very very confused. What is going on? It feels like Jeanne's memories or a Jeanne dream. But ghosts don't dream, do they? And how come she and Parley are pals? And Annie as a little kid with Winsbury. As far as we know, Annie is still not as strong as she was before the blinker stone was destroyed. Confused. All the cues talk about either memories or a dream. But who is doing the dreaming? Hmm I didn't see it before, but the one on the left DOES look like Winsbury doesn't he. Did we ever find out what Winsbury's power is? Maybe he can get inside dreams or something? I wonder if the story about Annie discovering his and Janet's relationship has some sort of payoff in this chapter. The person with purple hair on the right doesn't look like Janet though, maybe Blue? We know SHE could create things that seemed real to everyone else in the ether. Winsbury in a skirt, though? The more I look, the more these two look like Red and Blue to me. You guys say the person on the left has blond hair but it looks like Red's spiky orange-coloured hair to me. But good point about Blue's mind-control powers! Maybe Annie did ask them both for help. |
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Post by Trillium on Jul 25, 2016 8:08:19 GMT
Each page is getting progressively lighter or more faded like the color was being leeched out. Are we going from solid to ghostly?
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Post by hifranc on Jul 25, 2016 8:21:56 GMT
We can't rule out time travel. They can't fight her now but if they are able to stop what the Court planned, they won't need to.
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Post by csj on Jul 25, 2016 8:22:48 GMT
What interests me is whether they are capable of pulling something this complex off without Zimmy. As Jack said, it would be fun to see her in a dress xD |
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Post by fish on Jul 25, 2016 8:25:55 GMT
What interests me is whether they are capable of pulling something this complex off without Zimmy. As Jack said, it would be fun to see her in a dress xD Hahaha, that would be amazing foreshadowing. Though I'd strongly insist on a raptor appearance, if that's actually the case! |
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Post by philman on Jul 25, 2016 9:02:08 GMT
Winsbury in a skirt, though? The more I look, the more these two look like Red and Blue to me. You guys say the person on the left has blond hair but it looks like Red's spiky orange-coloured hair to me. But good point about Blue's mind-control powers! Maybe Annie did ask them both for help. It looks more like a long coat to me. That or a VERY short dress for the time period! |
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Post by rickg on Jul 25, 2016 9:14:04 GMT
What interests me is whether they are capable of pulling something this complex off without Zimmy. As Jack said, it would be fun to see her in a dress xD I don't think Zimmy would be capable of anything this water-colored. If I were to back down from "time travel shenanigans" I'd guess it's one or more of the fairies. BUT the grey box in the third panel is clearly a Type 40 TARDIS in default appearance, so I'm sticking with time travel.  |
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Post by haspen on Jul 25, 2016 9:51:36 GMT
Since it didn't look like Jeanne was aware of Annie's presence I am now in the "infiltrating her memories/psyche" camp. Yeah, looks pretty much like an infiltration. To distract her from Kat working on the arrow in the river? Annie is a lookout while Parsley is a lure/distraction. Smitty might have had a hand in letting them 'fit' into Jeanne's memories. |
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Post by calpal on Jul 25, 2016 10:28:02 GMT
Very very confused. What is going on? It feels like Jeanne's memories or a Jeanne dream. But ghosts don't dream, do they? And how come she and Parley are pals? And Annie as a little kid with Winsbury. As far as we know, Annie is still not as strong as she was before the blinker stone was destroyed. Confused. All the cues talk about either memories or a dream. But who is doing the dreaming? Not the slightest idea, but if they've managed to even pull off an infiltration tactic this well, they must have luck on their side. Wink wink. |
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Post by zbeeblebrox on Jul 25, 2016 10:52:53 GMT
Each page is getting progressively lighter or more faded like the color was being leeched out. Are we going from solid to ghostly? That's just the inconsistency of watercolor. Check the previous pages yourself. They all go in and out, because he's physically painting over the ink lines when he adds the color. |
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Post by Zox Tomana on Jul 25, 2016 13:29:39 GMT
I submit to this honored gathering page 1676 as evidence regarding the identities of the people Annie is sitting with and the nature of the situation the defe--- the characters have found themselves in.
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Post by Jelly Jellybean on Jul 25, 2016 16:31:55 GMT
Although we've seen Blue and some of the other Foley students manipulate what ohers perceive in the ether, I find it hard to believe that Annie would expose the young Foley students to something as dangerous as Jeanne. Annie was recently concerned about the Court exploiting the Foley students. So Annie decdes to use them to deal with a rage ghost that nearly claimed her the last time they met? That's pretty cold even for a Carver. If the Foley students are helping, then there's a lot of explaining that we have yet to see.
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Post by Eversist on Jul 25, 2016 16:41:26 GMT
Maybe it's just Annie superimposed onto a figure from Jeanne's memories, and the other figures are not important. At first I was inclined to agree, but then I realize no other background figures were given hair colors... and blue is an awfully strange hair color. I don't know who they are, though. Fairies, maybe, considering their clothing is grey. I'm in the "We shall see" camp. |
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Post by Daedalus on Jul 25, 2016 19:39:50 GMT
She has the cut on her cheek, too. What are the rules for when that appears? Is it just any time that it's in the ether? It always shows up when she's in the ether, but it sometimes shows up in questionably-etheric situations. For example, when the Seed Beesmuth deceived her, she seemed to be in some sort of dream-world (because she remembered moving but "woke up" in the same place as before) where the ether cut showed up only near the end. Or in Zimmy's bad acid trips, sometimes Annie's scar shows up and sometimes it remains hidden (for which reason I believe that Zimmy has an interesting and as-yet-unexplored relationship with the ether). |
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