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Post by Daedalus on Jul 18, 2016 7:00:38 GMT
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Post by Gotolei on Jul 18, 2016 7:03:21 GMT
I wonder if this art style has any significance other than Fancy-pants Flashback. Have we seen it before? and wow, looks like someone's getting creative with the thread titles |
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Post by Daedalus on Jul 18, 2016 7:11:30 GMT
and wow, looks like someone's getting creative with the thread titles ......... Not like I have any better options, with no dialog and no author's notes, haha.
Speaking of which, Tom seems to only go silent when something big and dramatic is about to happen. So that bodes well. |
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Post by Daedalus on Jul 18, 2016 7:17:10 GMT
I wonder if this art style has any significance other than Fancy-pants Flashback. Have we seen it before?  in all seriousness it is MISERABLE to type BBcode from a halfway-functional phone |
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Post by arf on Jul 18, 2016 7:24:03 GMT
Note the badge Jeanne is wearing?
(I, for one, rather like it when Tom decides to practice other drawing styles)
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Post by arf on Jul 18, 2016 7:27:20 GMT
Also here. (over 900 pages ago) |
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Post by madragoran on Jul 18, 2016 7:31:52 GMT
*heavy breathing at the art* Tome seriously got skillz. This is so beautiful. I love how he uses colour and his line works is very good. I wonder if he would do a project in this style. Comparing with the beginning of the court and the somewhat angular (very angular tbh) Annie this is ethereal.
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Post by speedwell on Jul 18, 2016 9:23:52 GMT
Also here. (over 900 pages ago) Godd@mn, the buildings in that and the next few pages look like specific Birmingham buildings as well. Wow. |
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Post by kreiri on Jul 18, 2016 10:16:08 GMT
Is that a scar on her cheek?
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Post by youwiththeface on Jul 18, 2016 10:17:33 GMT
Weirdly enough, I'm reminded of a far less deadpan Jones.
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Post by TBeholder on Jul 18, 2016 10:19:25 GMT
Also here. (over 900 pages ago) Also here. |
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Post by Jelly Jellybean on Jul 18, 2016 10:50:01 GMT
Note the badge Jeanne is wearing? (I, for one, rather like it when Tom decides to practice other drawing styles) It is the Court badge that the security peeps wear: Atta and ShellThat GuyJuliette and her Robot Friendand Kat may wear in the futureAs noted, Jeanne wore the badge in this and her previous flashbacks, so it has been around for a while. But we haven't seen it worn by the Court Protectors (Young, Thorn, Eglamore, or Parley), so the security force it represents is different. And there wasn't enough detail on these mysterious people, that told Anthony that Annie was going to be banished from the Court, to know if they are part of the same security force. The security force is part of the Court's surveillance system, but it isn't clear if that is the same surveillance Anthony and Donald try to avoid. |
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Post by crater on Jul 18, 2016 11:18:37 GMT
Jeane is making me swoon with her beautiful lunge posture
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Post by draag on Jul 18, 2016 11:38:48 GMT
Can you please supplement this link? Thanks |
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Post by TBeholder on Jul 18, 2016 12:17:28 GMT
It is the Court badge that the security peeps wear Well, obviously. I think that one was the first. But we haven't seen it worn by the Court Protectors (Young, Thorn, Eglamore, or Parley), so the security force it represents is different. Internal <snerk> Or investigations vs. plain armed force. You mis-linked the last one. Also of those who did not wear that badge: the guys who "recruited" Zimmy and Gamma (their visible buttons are really shiny). |
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Post by ctso74 on Jul 18, 2016 14:27:43 GMT
Is that a scar on her cheek? It's hard to see, but I believe it's the hair going across her forehead continuing below. Many have assumed Jeanne was isolated due to her relations with Green Man, but maybe that's not the case. The previous pages show a Court still in balance with nature, and not at Orwellian odds with it. Perhaps, there was an extra element to their romance, or the reason for her imprisonment hasn't been revealed. Or maybe we're about to see "the tipping point" in action. |
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Post by Jelly Jellybean on Jul 18, 2016 17:20:45 GMT
Can you please supplement this link? Thanks I think I fixed the link in the original post. In case it still isn't working: www.gunnerkrigg.com/?p=1616Good catch! Supports the possibility that the badge represents the Court's internal security although I had the impression from previous flashbacks that Jeanne was part of a more traditional military / external defense force and I am having a hard time seeing Kat join an internal security force. Maybe we'll learn more in the next few pages. |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 18, 2016 19:49:44 GMT
Perhaps, there was an extra element to their romance, or the reason for her imprisonment hasn't been revealed. Diego calls Jeanne's vague and elfin lover "that traitor" in Chapter 25 somewhere around p. 650. This suggests his defection to the Forest after the division. He may have been given a new body in the process, as would be customary taking the opposite path. csj pointing out the early Victorian clothing has made me wonder when exactly Jones may have arrived at the Court, and how she may have influenced the creation of the ravine. Reversing the order of presentation in the comic, we have seen her as "Elizabeth Langdon", then skipped to a destroyed filling factory during the Second (?) World War, at which point she had already become involved with the Court. Of course Coyote has claimed credit for that event, but aside from the matter of who put the stars in the night sky, he will often deceive by omission, such as in the trickery of his fellow triumvir. I did not choose that last word on a whimsy, as I have concluded that Gunnerkrigg Court is an elaborate roman à clef, designed to reveal Bacon's authorship of Shakespeare's plays and all that implies, wherein Renard has donned the mask of Mark Anthony, and Surma that of Cleopatra the Last ("the Painted Thief" in Greek). Look at how lucidly her lovers' monikers reflect this connexion: Tony needs no further comment, whereas the evangelist St. Mark appears in the King James Version of the Bible, as does the prophet Daniel. In addition, Eglamore echoes the Scottish royal dynasty of Dunkeld, nicknamed Canmore, which succeded the reign of a soldier-king named Macbeth of Fortree: there again with those forests and tree-kings; also recall that Betty was the name of the only other blue-eyed girl in the comic. All that I need to discover before I publish my grand thesis in English Literature is how this trail could lead me back to Shakespeare, and then I shall and retreat to Norderney, or perhaps the Appalachian Mountains, or to the vicinity of Rome where I may grow walnuts in my garden (we call them vodinsnötter in my native tongue, or simply valknuts). |
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Post by Zox Tomana on Jul 18, 2016 20:18:15 GMT
Perhaps, there was an extra element to their romance, or the reason for her imprisonment hasn't been revealed. Diego calls Jeanne's vague and elfin lover "that traitor" in Chapter 25 somewhere around p. 650. This suggests his defection to the Forest after the division. He may have been given a new body in the process, as would be customary taking the opposite path. csj pointing out the early Victorian clothing has made me wonder when exactly Jones may have arrived at the Court, and how she may have influenced the creation of the ravine. Reversing the order of presentation in the comic, we have seen her as "Elizabeth Langdon", then skipped to a destroyed filling factory during the Second (?) World War, at which point she had already become involved with the Court. Of course Coyote has claimed credit for that event, but aside from the matter of who put the stars in the night sky, he will often deceive by omission, such as in the trickery of his fellow triumvir. Jones stated (pg. 1119) that the founders of the court had all died by the time she got there, and we know the Annan Waters were created in the lifetime of the founders. My wonder is whether this is even the court at all. Could this be pre-arrival of the founders? Might we see why they went to Gillitie in the first place? |
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Post by Storel on Jul 18, 2016 21:11:21 GMT
Some of the commenters on the comic page are saying she's saber fencing, but I honestly can't see enough detail to determine whether she's holding a saber, a foil, or an épée. Can any of you tell?
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Post by Deleted on Jul 18, 2016 21:31:14 GMT
Jones stated (pg. 1119) that the founders of the court had all died by the time she got there [...]. I had not remembered that, thanks. That seems unlikely given the sign on Jeanne's chest, unless its origins precede the Court which simply adopted foreign designs for its use. (Not to mention that you would probably not encounter deer in the streets of, say, 19th-century Birmingham, nor get quite so close to them.) By the way, the Jeanne flashback during The Coward Heart visually suggests (p. 772) that Jeanne and her lover were separated by the drawing of the Annan Waters only after having met. (Those swords are peculiar; they point at her rather than at the forest; we already know that she has enemies in the Court, but the blades may hint at who they are.) Thus if he had acquired a new body, this change would have to have occurred before the division between Court and Forest was finalized. The whole basis of my suspicion was Diego's remark about treason, and I'll throw it out with the bathwater unless anyone shows up sporting a scar running through the left eyebrow. To further undermine it, there is an elf present at the "artistic representation" of the founders' first meeting. |
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Post by Zox Tomana on Jul 18, 2016 21:34:20 GMT
Some of the commenters on the comic page are saying she's saber fencing, but I honestly can't see enough detail to determine whether she's holding a saber, a foil, or an épée. Can any of you tell? You can tell based on the grip and handguard. Foil and epee usually have more of a shallow dome or bowl (respectively) handguard, while the saber guard usually looks exactly as shown on this page. This, of course, assumes she's using sport-esque equipment, which isn't totally comparable to actual weapons, just like sport fencing isn't really comparable to "real" swordplay. That seems unlikely given the sign on Jeanne's chest, unless its origins precede the Court which simply adopted foreign designs for its use. You say "foreign," but the court founders seem to be a rather disparate lot to begin with. "Jeanne" is a French name and she speaks French in Chptr. 25. "Sir Young" seems to be a rather English kinda name and one of the other Founders seemed to be wearing the red coat of the English army. "Diego" on the other hand could very well be a Spaniard. I think it very likely the Court founders brought a lot of the symbols they used with them from their own lands. The Court did not arise from a vacuum. It is more likely that this is the Court pre-split rather than another place pre-Court, I was just throwing out some speculation. |
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Post by eightyfour on Jul 18, 2016 21:52:05 GMT
Some of the commenters on the comic page are saying she's saber fencing, but I honestly can't see enough detail to determine whether she's holding a saber, a foil, or an épée. Can any of you tell? Sports fencing as we know it today is a relatively young discipline, it only started to come about at the end of the 19th century. We haven't been given an exact time frame (iirc), but from what we've seen so far it could be quite possible that Jeanne might have lived significantly earlier than that - certainly no later than the very beginning of the 20th century. As such we should be careful with applying modern terminology. That said, the hilt we can see in the lower right of the page very much looks like a typical sabre hilt and the blade is thin enough to belong to a modern sports weapon, rather than one designed for actual combat. |
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Post by todd on Jul 18, 2016 23:56:56 GMT
Is that a scar on her cheek? The previous pages show a Court still in balance with nature, and not at Orwellian odds with it. "Orwellian" is certainly appropriate, in light of the Court, after murdering Jeanne, deleting her completely from the records, so that no one (except the people who had manipulated her death) even knew that she'd ever existed. |
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Post by fish on Jul 19, 2016 14:21:29 GMT
I wonder, is this a flashback-only chapter à la 'Ties'? Is this a flashback designed to give us context for the rest of the chapter, when Annie and co. will be making their move? Or have we skipped that part already and Jeanne's dumping memories onto our heroines again, à la 'The Coward Heart'? Will we get dialogue or is this a silent flashback? Whatever the case, I expect some questions to be answered! Such as: What the hell is Steadmans deal? Who is the mystery person who did't want to participate in Diegos scheme? ( p654) What was the Forest/Court conflict actually about? What was her elfin lover's name?  An answer to some question I am not even anticipating yet? And again, what the hell is Steadmans deal? I'm preparing some popcorn tonight. |
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Post by fish on Jul 19, 2016 14:28:12 GMT
I wonder if this art style has any significance other than Fancy-pants Flashback. Have we seen it before? More like, here.  |
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Post by Jelly Jellybean on Jul 19, 2016 16:16:47 GMT
I wonder, is this a flashback-only chapter à la 'Ties'? Is this a flashback designed to give us context for the rest of the chapter, when Annie and co. will be making their move? Or have we skipped that part already and Jeanne's dumping memories onto our heroines again, à la 'The Coward Heart'? Will we get dialogue or is this a silent flashback? Whatever the case, I expect some questions to be answered! Such as: What the hell is Steadmans deal? Who is the mystery person who did't want to participate in Diegos scheme? ( p654) What was the Forest/Court conflict actually about? What was her elfin lover's name? An answer to some question I am not even anticipating yet? And again, what the hell is Steadmans deal? I'm preparing some popcorn tonight. Since you demand answers, here are answers, some are even correct. Maybe Yes Probably not It remains to be seen (one of Tom's most common responses) He is a jerk The Artilleryman (confirmed by Tom in the chapter retrospective) A clash of cultures Greenie McGreenface? Most certainly Still a jerk |
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Post by CoyoteReborn on Jul 19, 2016 16:28:43 GMT
Since you demand answers, here are answers, some are even correct. Maybe Yes Probably not It remains to be seen (one of Tom's most common responses) He is a jerk The Artilleryman (confirmed by Tom in the chapter retrospective) A clash of cultures Greenie McGreenface? Most certainly Still a jerk Even in My absence, My disciples do My good work. |
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Post by Jelly Jellybean on Jul 19, 2016 21:33:03 GMT
*wipes away tear from hind-left shoulder eye*Even in My absence, My disciples do My good work. If I was truly worthy, the answers wouldn't be in the same order as the questions. |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 19, 2016 22:41:31 GMT
As well as here, technically, if the recent pages are indeed watercolours (I assume so). |
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