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Post by csj on Apr 8, 2016 7:00:31 GMT
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Post by Gotolei on Apr 8, 2016 7:02:10 GMT
(Reminder that Tom writes the comic at least three months in advance.)
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Post by Daedalus on Apr 8, 2016 7:02:42 GMT
Chibi Tea! Chibi Tea!  (Reminder that Tom writes the comic at least three months in advance.) I suspect that he writes the bonus pages with less of a buffer. They've proved astonishingly relevant before. |
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Post by csj on Apr 8, 2016 7:03:18 GMT
Last panel: ಠ_ಠ
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Post by Timberwere on Apr 8, 2016 7:07:52 GMT
The reasonable reader is adorable.  |
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Post by edzepp on Apr 8, 2016 7:11:35 GMT
as a reasonable reader I find this depiction very accurate
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zirka
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Post by zirka on Apr 8, 2016 7:12:31 GMT
Dear Tom! I for one, completely understood that Janet and Winsbury's relationship was still a secret after all the events mentioned here by Tea. I was surprised when people started arguing about it not being a secret anymore. Perhaps other fans do not cherish this comic as much as I and easily forget important plot points. (I know my post count is pretty low but I read every single comic discussion thread)
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Post by TBeholder on Apr 8, 2016 7:13:59 GMT
(Reminder that Tom writes the comic at least three months in advance.) But do the bonus pages count? Either way, kekekekeke. |
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Post by edzepp on Apr 8, 2016 7:21:32 GMT
Dear Tom! I for one, completely understood that Janet and Winsbury's relationship was still a secret after all the events mentioned here by Tea. I was surprised when people started arguing about it not being a secret anymore. Perhaps other fans do not cherish this comic as much as I and easily forget important plot points. (I know my post count is pretty low but I read every single comic discussion thread) I'm with you. But there are a lot of details in the comic, sometimes it slips the mind. |
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Post by Timberwere on Apr 8, 2016 7:23:18 GMT
Dear Tom! I for one, completely understood that Janet and Winsbury's relationship was still a secret after all the events mentioned here by Tea. I was surprised when people started arguing about it not being a secret anymore. Perhaps other fans do not cherish this comic as much as I and easily forget important plot points. (I know my post count is pretty low but I read every single comic discussion thread) Same here, down to the low post counts and avid forum reading. I wouldn't think others don't cherish the comic, though. Things can easily slip by. There are lots of things I've missed in the past. |
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Post by bedinsis on Apr 8, 2016 7:24:38 GMT
Is it just me or was Tea uncharacteristically "cartoony" in this page?
I mean, I remember her appearance at the end of the Renard retrieval chapter, but that felt more appropriate, due to that chapter's short length.
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Post by Draxiss on Apr 8, 2016 7:25:28 GMT
I can see how the confusion occurred. On the page where everyone is ignoring their confession, I thought they literally just didn't care.
EDIT: fixed a spelling error
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Post by philman on Apr 8, 2016 7:27:43 GMT
Yeah I was kind of surprised when people thought everyone knew about their relationship already too. I thought it was pretty well told.
Saying that I never saw Zimmy and Gamma as a romantic relationship until people here spoke about it as if it were common knowledge (and I'm still dubious), so everyone misses some things I guess.
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Post by zirka on Apr 8, 2016 7:44:44 GMT
Dear Tom! I for one, completely understood that Janet and Winsbury's relationship was still a secret after all the events mentioned here by Tea. I was surprised when people started arguing about it not being a secret anymore. Perhaps other fans do not cherish this comic as much as I and easily forget important plot points. (I know my post count is pretty low but I read every single comic discussion thread) Same here, down to the low post counts and avid forum reading. I wouldn't think others don't cherish the comic, though. Things can easily slip by. There are lots of things I've missed in the past. I meant to write that as funny, but it just came out stuck up. Of course everyone cherishes this webcomic! How could they not? It's amazingly wonderful. I read every page the day it's posted and digest it carefully. My friend prefers to wait three months and read a lot in one go. With my friend's style of reading she may miss some details like whose relationship is secret or not. But I do envy her sometimes as she gets large chunks of fresh story at once. I wouldn't have minded blazing through the Anthony trauma in one afternoon instead of months and months. |
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Post by Daedalus on Apr 8, 2016 7:50:16 GMT
Dear Tom! I for one, completely understood that Janet and Winsbury's relationship was still a secret after all the events mentioned here by Tea. I was surprised when people started arguing about it not being a secret anymore. Perhaps other fans do not cherish this comic as much as I and easily forget important plot points. (I know my post count is pretty low but I read every single comic discussion thread) Honestly, I thought Tom left it ambiguous at the end of Faraway Morning whether everyone believed them. We now know the answer, of course. I wouldn't have minded blazing through the Anthony trauma in one afternoon instead of months and months. You and me both  I've read every comic/discussion page the morning/night it came out for several years now, but things still slip by me occasionally (despite my obnoxiously high post count: I'm just chatty). I don't have a perfect memory, alas. |
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Post by vvaivi on Apr 8, 2016 8:08:17 GMT
Dear Tom! I for one, completely understood that Janet and Winsbury's relationship was still a secret after all the events mentioned here by Tea. I was surprised when people started arguing about it not being a secret anymore. Perhaps other fans do not cherish this comic as much as I and easily forget important plot points. (I know my post count is pretty low but I read every single comic discussion thread) "We're in a relationship and here is a silly story about how we met." would not make me think "Oh. Lame. They told a silly story about how they met so they must not actually be in a relationship." Papi, the characters are doing things that don't make sense to me. Please make them stop. Winsbury saying "Looks like they don't believe us." does not mean that they don't believe them! Winsbury is not a mind reader! |
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Post by ditchboyus on Apr 8, 2016 8:36:04 GMT
Dear Tom! I for one, completely understood that Janet and Winsbury's relationship was still a secret after all the events mentioned here by Tea. I was surprised when people started arguing about it not being a secret anymore. Perhaps other fans do not cherish this comic as much as I and easily forget important plot points. (I know my post count is pretty low but I read every single comic discussion thread) "We're in a relationship and here is a silly story about how we met." would not make me think "Oh. Lame. They told a silly story about how they met so they must not actually be in a relationship." Papi, the characters are doing things that don't make sense to me. Please make them stop. Winsbury saying "Looks like they don't believe us." does not mean that they don't believe them! Winsbury is not a mind reader! Neither Bud's comment or the bonus page make sense, though, if everyone believed they were in a relationship. |
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Post by arf on Apr 8, 2016 9:14:15 GMT
It's Tea time!
And, while Tom may have failed to convey his point in a clear way*, Tea certainly doesn't.
Good day!
* Tom did, it's just that I didn't pick it up on the first read.
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Post by keef on Apr 8, 2016 9:18:33 GMT
I wish Tom would stop worrying whether every last reader understands everything he writes. Finding out you were completely on the wrong track can be a fun experience too. And one of the great things about this comic is its mysteriousness.
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Post by arzeik on Apr 8, 2016 9:18:40 GMT
This page actually got me laughing. I think it must have been a bit frustrating for Tom to see every now and then some reasonable reader pointing that out in the comments.
As a matter of fact, I don't think that some people not understanding something going on in a comic (and it has happened to me, too) implies writer's inability, just as misunderstandings in real life don't mean life's failing. It's only that, sometimes, we're kind of oblivious and unable to see what's right in front of us.
On a side note, I love how this page has been drawn.
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Post by heranje on Apr 8, 2016 9:59:37 GMT
Dear Tom! I for one, completely understood that Janet and Winsbury's relationship was still a secret after all the events mentioned here by Tea. I was surprised when people started arguing about it not being a secret anymore. Perhaps other fans do not cherish this comic as much as I and easily forget important plot points. (I know my post count is pretty low but I read every single comic discussion thread) "We're in a relationship and here is a silly story about how we met." would not make me think "Oh. Lame. They told a silly story about how they met so they must not actually be in a relationship." Papi, the characters are doing things that don't make sense to me. Please make them stop. Winsbury saying "Looks like they don't believe us." does not mean that they don't believe them! Winsbury is not a mind reader! True. But also, Gunnerkrigg Court in general has a lot of moments that require some suspension of disbelief/accepting "silly" logic. I mean, Annie's "That explains the joke kisses you always do! And the 3 hour two person play you put on about being married that one time!" clearly indicates that Winsbury and Janet are maybe not as super-stealthy as they think, but the students of GC just seem particularly dense on that specific point. |
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Post by alexsl on Apr 8, 2016 10:11:37 GMT
I was also surprised that some people didn't remember that nobody believed J&W.
Then there is the argument that it is unrealistic for nobody to believe that they are in a relationship. In unrelated news, fire elementals don't exist IRL, so obviously it is impossible to enjoy this comic...
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Post by arf on Apr 8, 2016 10:15:43 GMT
When it comes to Janet and Will, it takes a genius to state the bleeding obvious.
(Really! Look up Huxley's facepalm reaction when Darwin told him about his proposed mechanism for evolution.)
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Post by calpal on Apr 8, 2016 10:20:21 GMT
Dear Tom! I for one, completely understood that Janet and Winsbury's relationship was still a secret after all the events mentioned here by Tea. I was surprised when people started arguing about it not being a secret anymore. Perhaps other fans do not cherish this comic as much as I and easily forget important plot points. (I know my post count is pretty low but I read every single comic discussion thread) Dear Tom, Take everything THIS reasonable reader has said and throw it out of the window. As a reasonable reader MYSELF, I've re-read the comic enough times to have it burned into my frontal cortex or wherever it is memories dwell, and I can definitively say you SUPER-DUPER TOTALLY did not convince me, a reasonable reader, that those two kids really just got away with that! Sincerely, A reasonable reader |
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Post by Jelly Jellybean on Apr 8, 2016 10:36:50 GMT
I wish I had a pencil thin mustache...
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Post by fish on Apr 8, 2016 10:50:13 GMT
I was also surprised that some people didn't remember that nobody believed J&W. Then there is the argument that it is unrealistic for nobody to believe that they are in a relationship. In unrelated news, fire elementals don't exist IRL, so obviously it is impossible to enjoy this comic... This, I feel, is some kind of logical fallacy that I see way to often in fantasy/sci-fi fandoms. It's the assumption that, just because I had to suspend my disbelief for the story-setting (e.g. magic does exist) I must now suspend it at every turn in the story. "You have a problem with the plausibility of a certain scene? Well, why did you not have a problem with the unrealistic setting then?" Because setting and characters/plot are not the same and I'm trying to discuss the one and not the other. I'm sceptical of knockout arguments like: "You feel the author didn't do a good job? Well, magic isn't real, so get over it." ...Really? alexsl , this is not a stab against you, just musings about fandoms in general!About the situation at hand: The problem here might be... GC characters usually act in a realistic way and don't require much suspension of disbelief. W+J however are played as a running gag and their relationship does require some mental gymnastics which the average GC reader is, maybe, not used to? I don't know... I have lost my faith in "reasonable readers" ever since the Jenny=Zimmy fiasco. |
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Post by ohthatone on Apr 8, 2016 12:18:30 GMT
Dear Tom! I for one, completely understood that Janet and Winsbury's relationship was still a secret after all the events mentioned here by Tea. I was surprised when people started arguing about it not being a secret anymore. Perhaps other fans do not cherish this comic as much as I and easily forget important plot points. (I know my post count is pretty low but I read every single comic discussion thread) I was one of the readers who didn't understand until the forum pointed it out. It's not that I didn't remember, but I had interpreted the following pages differently. I thought the kids already knew this revelation and didn't care and Bud knew what was up but thought the Headmaster didn't. However, the bonus page didn't make sense to me. Now it does. |
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Post by ohthatone on Apr 8, 2016 12:56:48 GMT
I was also surprised that some people didn't remember that nobody believed J&W. Then there is the argument that it is unrealistic for nobody to believe that they are in a relationship. In unrelated news, fire elementals don't exist IRL, so obviously it is impossible to enjoy this comic... This, I feel, is some kind of logical fallacy that I see way to often in fantasy/sci-fi fandoms. It's the assumption that, just because I had to suspend my disbelief for the story-setting (e.g. magic does exist) I must now suspend it at every turn in the story. "You have a problem with the plausibility of a certain scene? Well, why did you not have a problem with the unrealistic setting then?" Because setting and characters are not the same and I'm trying to discuss the one and not the other. I'm sceptical of knockout arguments like: "You feel the author didn't do a good job? Well, magic isn't real, so get over it." ...Really? alexsl , this is not a stab against you, just musings about fandoms in general!THIS. so much this. Even within high fantasy where nothing is recognizable, a world must still adhere to rules or its reality just kind of falls apart. (That's not what happened in this comic, though, just agreeing with fish here because I've seen this with fandoms as well.) I can accept a world shaped like a disk that sits on a giant turtle floating in space, but suddenly Granny Weatherwax and Rincewind fall in love and no one questions it*? nope. * I haven't read all the Discworld novels and am assuming this didn't actually happen.
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Post by ctso74 on Apr 8, 2016 13:01:33 GMT
Ridiculousness! That looks nothing like me... *looks in mirror* ... Wow. Down to the red frames...
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Post by noone3 on Apr 8, 2016 13:26:05 GMT
suddenly Granny Weatherwax and Rincewind fall in love and no one questions it*? Well... there was that one time, when Nobby got himself this gorgeous girlfriend, which he subsequently turned down... |
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