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Post by Daedalus on Mar 21, 2016 7:00:23 GMT
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Post by Fishy on Mar 21, 2016 7:03:31 GMT
Oh Renard, you truly are related to Coyote. Just enough to count. Borderline, really.
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Post by csj on Mar 21, 2016 7:04:12 GMT
right when I thought I had op nailed down by sheer luck
another challenger falls from rey's path
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Post by erunion on Mar 21, 2016 7:05:10 GMT
Renard:
Activate - 'Understanding Paternal Figure Mode'
Hide - 'Overpowering Stress'
Disguise - 'Horrified Shock'
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Display - 'Intense Relief'.
This is becoming one of the funniest chapters.
Well done, Tom. Well done.
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Post by CoyoteReborn on Mar 21, 2016 7:10:14 GMT
Cousin, WHAT in the Four Worlds is that face??  Yet another reason coyotes are more dignified than foxes - WE never make such dumb faces like that!  I'm...just gonna screenshot that and taunt you with it later...Hehehe!
You'll be all, "Oh, I'm so dignified and above your mischief, Cousin!"
And I'll giggle and show this picture to everyone in the Forest!
I'll get to humiliate you, yes yes! I can't wait!   "HERP DERP," says the Fox |
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Post by ctso74 on Mar 21, 2016 7:12:57 GMT
Annie: "Renard, are you crying?"
Rey: "Just thinking about the fine young man, that you're missing out on... Oh, thank Coyotes left outer eyeballs."
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Post by CoyoteReborn on Mar 21, 2016 7:17:46 GMT
Oh, thank Coyotes left outer eyeballs. They are worthy of thanks and praise, yes yes!  Such nice outer eyeballs they are, don't ya think?  No one has a sexier eyeball on their left hip than I, and that's a fact! |
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Post by arf on Mar 21, 2016 7:18:26 GMT
Oh Renard, you truly are related to Coyote. Just enough to count. Borderline, really. He might even be related to Winsbury... now *there's* a conspiracy theory! |
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Post by CoyoteReborn on Mar 21, 2016 7:26:33 GMT
Oh Renard, you truly are related to Coyote. Just enough to count. Borderline, really. He might even be related to Winsbury... now *there's* a conspiracy theory! Better conspiracy theory: Winsbury is my son's wife's half-brother's cousin's lover's sister's godfather's barber's daughter's grandfather's roommate's childhood best friend, while Renard is my son's uncle, once removed. It's pretty simple, really. yes, I did spend time diagramming this out |
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Post by hifranc on Mar 21, 2016 7:38:48 GMT
I"m surprised that he ended with that phrase. Isn't he a deity?
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Post by speedwell on Mar 21, 2016 8:06:58 GMT
I"m surprised that he ended with that phrase. Isn't he a deity? Well, so long as you're discussing mythological figures, what's one more? I admit we should have seen it coming, given that all such figures are "true" for the Court/Forest world. Perhaps that old crack about "they think they're the only ones up here" applies. Also, about Reynard's reaction to Annie telling him she turned Winsbury down... I think Tom is secretly a father in his 40s with a teenage daughter. (Just kidding, Tom, heh) But seriously, that resembled a friend of mine so much I e-mailed it to him. |
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Post by philman on Mar 21, 2016 8:13:18 GMT
Ok renard has been making some great faces this chapter, this is a tough choice for avatar...
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Post by calpal on Mar 21, 2016 10:13:28 GMT
Have to admit, even I am starting to agree with Reynard on this whole shenanigan plot... even if it comes at the cost of me being proven slightly more wrong on the idea of 'Annie gets a boyfriend now'.
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Post by Jelly Jellybean on Mar 21, 2016 10:38:53 GMT
Annie may be seeing a little better in the ether than she did at the start of the chapter, assuming what we see represents what she can see. The bowling alley bench is visible now compared to the start of the chapter when only Annie and Renard were visible.
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Post by Corvo on Mar 21, 2016 11:05:48 GMT
Annie may be seeing a little better in the ether than she did at the start of the chapter, assuming what we see represents what she can see. The bowling alley bench is visible now compared to the start of the chapter when only Annie and Renard were visible. And the bench is not ether-grey either, although her clothes are. |
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Post by Xan on Mar 21, 2016 11:10:46 GMT
Inevitable rebuttal from Annie "You're not my dad, Renard"?
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Post by TBeholder on Mar 21, 2016 11:57:40 GMT
I"m surprised that he ended with that phrase. Isn't he a deity? Technically, no, but Coyote is. I am surprised Renard didn't notice her expression. Because if he did, the obvious comment would be "Whose chicken coop did you raid, dear, and did you remember to hide your tracks on the way out?" |
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Post by artezzatrigger on Mar 21, 2016 12:10:25 GMT
Renard could still make a mighty fine eldritch etherial horror yet.
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Post by aithecomputerguy on Mar 21, 2016 12:30:58 GMT
Annie may be seeing a little better in the ether than she did at the start of the chapter, assuming what we see represents what she can see. The bowling alley bench is visible now compared to the start of the chapter when only Annie and Renard were visible. And the bench is not ether-grey either, although her clothes are. Yeah, everything appears reddish in the ether now. Renard mentioned she should light it with her fire, and the bowling ball scene was also very red, so maybe everything will have a reddish tint now. |
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Post by crater on Mar 21, 2016 12:36:41 GMT
Renard probably has impossibly high standards anyways
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Post by keef on Mar 21, 2016 13:19:26 GMT
Inevitable rebuttal from Annie "You're not my dad, Renard"? She already said that. Deep in her heart it might now be: "A shame you're not my dad, Renard" |
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Post by kelantar on Mar 21, 2016 13:49:23 GMT
Ok renard has been making some great faces this chapter, this is a tough choice for avatar... Haha, if you hadn't, I would have. Annie may be seeing a little better in the ether than she did at the start of the chapter, assuming what we see represents what she can see. The bowling alley bench is visible now compared to the start of the chapter when only Annie and Renard were visible. I think it might also be that she's more emotionally balanced than at the beginning of the chapter. When Paz said, "I think you will get it soon," I think there was a layered meaning (at least from our POV). Paz meant she was getting a hang of bowling, while we see that she's getting better with her powers, but as her power is linked to her emotions, I think we can infer that she's getting a hold of herself. |
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Post by alpacalypse on Mar 21, 2016 14:10:32 GMT
I glad that despite what I believe was Rey's intense desire to ether snoop, that he didn't, so we could get that face. I love seeing him break from his usual stoic facade.
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Post by Daedalus on Mar 21, 2016 18:18:25 GMT
Inevitable rebuttal from Annie "You're not my dad, Renard"? She already said that. Deep in her heart it might now be: "A shame you're not my dad, Renard" Her Fox!Dad is doing such a better job than her Human!Dad, no? He really does care for her well-being I love Renard as a character, honestly. He's just so loyal to her. |
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Post by warrl on Mar 21, 2016 23:48:04 GMT
I"m surprised that he ended with that phrase. Isn't he a deity? Renard is an archetype and a mythological character, but was never (that I'm aware of) presented as a deity. |
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Post by Gotolei on Mar 22, 2016 1:17:46 GMT
I"m surprised that he ended with that phrase. Isn't he a deity? Renard is an archetype and a mythological character, but was never (that I'm aware of) presented as a deity. Coyote's described him as (kind of?) an equal to himself in the past, and stated it quite bluntly later on.(admittedly it's possible to spin that as him misleading Rey, though) Inevitable rebuttal from Annie "You're not my dad, Renard"? To be honest, that could almost be taken as a compliment. |
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Post by Daedalus on Mar 22, 2016 1:53:15 GMT
I"m surprised that he ended with that phrase. Isn't he a deity? Renard is an archetype and a mythological character, but was never (that I'm aware of) presented as a deity. If Coyote is a god, Renard is a minor god and/or nature spirit of some kind. He was created in the same way (we assume), but has much less power or belief than Coyote. Coyote later calls him a god, but that was in an attempt to manipulate him, so... |
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Post by Zox Tomana on Mar 22, 2016 3:43:28 GMT
I"m surprised that he ended with that phrase. Isn't he a deity? Renard is an archetype and a mythological character, but was never (that I'm aware of) presented as a deity. There was another time where Coyote stated that he wanted to give Renard power, and that Renard had to get his body-jumping power from Coyote so... Coyote is the "god" here. Renard is a cousin to Coyote, but thus far has not been shown to be anywhere on Coyote's level. |
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Post by tiberius on Mar 22, 2016 12:09:35 GMT
Renard is an archetype and a mythological character, but was never (that I'm aware of) presented as a deity. If Coyote is a god, Renard is a minor god and/or nature spirit of some kind. He was created in the same way (we assume), but has much less power or belief than Coyote. Coyote later calls him a god, but that was in an attempt to manipulate him, so... From my point of view, "Demon" fits nicely for him. We might only connect negative thoughts to the word, but I do see him as something between a god-like entity and an ordinary character of the forest. He is Coyote's cousin after all. I would consider another parallel here. As much as Annie is a descendant of a spirit, Renard might be a kind of descendent of a god. Maybe also created by more human influence than coyote according to his theory. Meaning, that he lives as long as the ether allows it, but has stronger connections to humankind and more empathy towards them. This is why he fits the persona of a father figure way better than Annie's biological father. Anthony doesn't have any connection to the ether at all. He is a man of rational thought who - from my point of view - denies feelings and irrational impulses. Renard, though, has experienced it all. Because of his age and based on his relationship with Antimony's mother (maybe her mother, too?), he knows, what she is going through and what Annie is going through, too. Most likely he knows it way better than Tony who was 'only' interested in his wife as a case he can solve through science. So, where does my train of thought lead to: Yes, he fills the role as a father figure, at least partially. Tony did have a role and will need to play a role there, too for her future. As must Isengrim. I think, what we have seen so far are examples, that Annie can only grow if she keeps the balance. Between Tony and what he represents (The Court, Science, Rationality, human ways to bend the ether and technology) and Renard, Isengrim and Coyote and what they stand for (The Forest, Creativity, Chaos, the natural experiences with the ether). And this represents only a minor point of the whole collection of reasons I find Tom's work so amazingly beautiful and exciting! edit: Oh, hold on: Is Renard copying Winsbury in the last panel? gunnerkrigg.com/?p=1639 |
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Post by ctso74 on Mar 22, 2016 22:51:07 GMT
Annie may be seeing a little better in the ether than she did at the start of the chapter, assuming what we see represents what she can see. The bowling alley bench is visible now compared to the start of the chapter when only Annie and Renard were visible. And the bench is not ether-grey either, although her clothes are. I wonder if the seat cover is actually leather, therefore technically former skin and has an Ether presence. Though this is the Court. Where would they get leather? They really don't have cows with skin. The cows that they do have, would give you free lasik if you tried to take their 'hides'. I think you're quite right! Good catch. I imagine if Renard's hair had spiked up, it would have been more noticeable. |
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