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Post by Daedalus on Nov 27, 2015 8:00:14 GMT
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sotha
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Post by sotha on Nov 27, 2015 8:03:43 GMT
Woah Kat's making robot limbs that grow and develop... and NEW CODE? New robot code?
She made so much progress since we last checked in!
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Post by Chancellor on Nov 27, 2015 8:05:08 GMT
Do you even praise, heathens?
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Post by Daedalus on Nov 27, 2015 8:42:33 GMT
Do you even praise, heathens? My fellow servant of our Lady of Machines, let us read our Holy scripture to the unbelievers, so they may be cleansed in Her light: ~~ Cogs 2:72 |
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Post by foresterr on Nov 27, 2015 8:42:44 GMT
Time for some new theological revelations? "Not to put a too fine point on this, but the boot-up log shows that now I apparently have a soul"  (and the psychopomps will finally have to employ an electrician...) |
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Post by Bontage on Nov 27, 2015 8:53:15 GMT
"Not to put a too fine point on this, but the boot-up log shows that now I apparently have a soul" (and the psychopomps will finally have to employ an electrician...)Up to now, this was not something I had considered, but now I'm REALLY curious to meet the psychopomp responsible for dealing with those less biologically-inclined, shall we say? |
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Post by Daedalus on Nov 27, 2015 8:56:11 GMT
"Not to put a too fine point on this, but the boot-up log shows that now I apparently have a soul" (and the psychopomps will finally have to employ an electrician...)Up to now, this was not something I had considered, but now I'm REALLY curious to meet the psychopomp responsible for dealing with those less biologically-inclined, shall we say? According to Muut, as of Chapter 8, there wasn't a psychopomp of robots. Some people think that Kat will become that psychopomp in the future, but for now, the common assumption is that there isn't one. Yet? Part of this issue is that no robot has truly died yet (at least by our standards; Robot has a differing perspective on the matter). After all, if a robot can be reactivated (as Kat did back in Chapter 33), its essence can't really have moved on to become one with the ether. And I'm not willing to accept robot chicken wings as entities needing a psychopomp. Again, to new readers, click on my signature to learn more about my thoughts on the matter  |
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Post by ctso74 on Nov 27, 2015 9:16:17 GMT
"Oh. Oh. ... And now I'm a Hedonist."
I'm guessing, the sensations and "revelations" he'll have, are similar to suddenly being able to see a new color. Nothing on the palette. Just completely new.
He might explain it to Kat and Paz, but how would he describe such things to his robot brethren?
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Post by Toloc on Nov 27, 2015 9:24:07 GMT
Up to now, this was not something I had considered, but now I'm REALLY curious to meet the psychopomp responsible for dealing with those less biologically-inclined, shall we say? According to Muut, as of Chapter 8, there wasn't a psychopomp of robots. Some people think that Kat will become that psychopomp in the future, but for now, the common assumption is that there isn't one. Yet? Part of this issue is that no robot has truly died yet (at least by our standards; Robot has a differing perspective on the matter). After all, if a robot can be reactivated (as Kat did back in Chapter 33), its essence can't really have moved on to become one with the ether. And I'm not willing to accept robot chicken wings as entities needing a psychopomp. Again, to new readers, click on my signature to learn more about my thoughts on the matter What about the ship-whale? Was that an - "Oh. Oh. I understand now. It's full of stars. I can taste the universe..."
- "Oh. Oh. That's reeaaally weird, I have a new sense."
- "Oh. Oh. Killswitch activated. Destroy meatbags!"
- "Oh. Ooooh. ... I need a new pair of pants..."
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Post by deram on Nov 27, 2015 10:10:42 GMT
Time for some new theological revelations? "Not to put a too fine point on this, but the boot-up log shows that now I apparently have a soul" (and the psychopomps will finally have to employ an electrician...)Obviously, the next step would be Silicon Heaven: |
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Post by fish on Nov 27, 2015 11:05:31 GMT
According to Muut, as of Chapter 8, there wasn't a psychopomp of robots. Some people think that Kat will become that psychopomp in the future, but for now, the common assumption is that there isn't one. Yet? Part of this issue is that no robot has truly died yet (at least by our standards; Robot has a differing perspective on the matter). After all, if a robot can be reactivated (as Kat did back in Chapter 33), its essence can't really have moved on to become one with the ether. And I'm not willing to accept robot chicken wings as entities needing a psychopomp. Again, to new readers, click on my signature to learn more about my thoughts on the matter What about the ship-whale? [...] As far as I know, Kat only fried the whale body. The ship cpu is still intact, probably being studied for criminal behaviour. |
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Post by Bill on Nov 27, 2015 13:36:44 GMT
Last Monday, we had the first page of a technology chapter. Then on Tuesday afternoon nature turned off my electricity for eight days, two hours. Oh the irony.
Then I come back to this? What an incredible (and discussion-ripe) chapter start.
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Post by Trillium on Nov 27, 2015 14:30:39 GMT
Robot is having a bit of a sensory overload.
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Post by Jelly Jellybean on Nov 27, 2015 15:30:33 GMT
That was a really fast reboot. When my computer reboots, I have enough time for a quick game of Risk before it comes back up.
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Post by Gotolei on Nov 27, 2015 17:20:56 GMT
Not sure which is more impressive.. that Kat's figured out the diegocode to such proficiency that she can apparently write more of it herself, or that she's also figured out a way to manipulate and transfer it intact using everyday computers.
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Post by faythofdragons on Nov 27, 2015 17:37:55 GMT
"Oh. Oh. ... And now I'm a Hedonist." I'm guessing, the sensations and "revelations" he'll have, are similar to suddenly being able to see a new color. Nothing on the palette. Just completely new. Like, maybe a greenish purple? |
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Post by calpal on Nov 27, 2015 17:52:42 GMT
"Strange experience" is not an expression I would associate with Robot's vocabulary. Also not sure if that's only slightly terrifying, or very terrifying.
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Post by Refugee on Nov 27, 2015 19:11:06 GMT
I am reminded of Roger Zelazny's "For A Breath I Tarry", about a robot trying to become a Man. It is here.This is the Full Zelazny, heady stuff. Do not consume while operating heavy machinery or small children. |
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Post by corvis on Nov 27, 2015 21:53:27 GMT
"Oh. Oh. ... And now I'm a Hedonist." I'm guessing, the sensations and "revelations" he'll have, are similar to suddenly being able to see a new color. Nothing on the palette. Just completely new. Like, maybe a greenish purple? The eighth color of the rainbow! That would confuse him to no end... |
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corvis
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Post by corvis on Nov 27, 2015 22:31:23 GMT
I am reminded of Roger Zelazny's "For A Breath I Tarry", about a robot trying to become a Man. It is here.This is the Full Zelazny, heady stuff. Do not consume while operating heavy machinery or small children. Thank you for sharing that, I enjoyed it a lot. Started off fairly Faustian, but with multiple twists in other directions towards the end...lovely. Thanks! I think I'm going to go look up what else this guy's written.  |
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Post by The Anarch on Nov 27, 2015 23:32:08 GMT
"Oh. Oh. ... And now I'm a Hedonist." |
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Post by zirka on Nov 28, 2015 0:23:35 GMT
I am reminded of Roger Zelazny's "For A Breath I Tarry", about a robot trying to become a Man. It is here.This is the Full Zelazny, heady stuff. Do not consume while operating heavy machinery or small children. Oh maaan, that story was good. And the ending was happy but I am crying real tears over here T_T Must be one of those illogical human reactions. Zelazny stories are big in the former Soviet lands, so my mom made sure I read them. I guess I never read this one? Also reminds me of this book by Stanislaw Lem en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fables_for_Robots |
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Post by ctso74 on Nov 28, 2015 3:40:38 GMT
"Oh. Oh. ... And now I'm a Hedonist." I'm guessing, the sensations and "revelations" he'll have, are similar to suddenly being able to see a new color. Nothing on the palette. Just completely new. Like, maybe a greenish purple? Reminds me that, I've found no way to get a dress shirt in octarine. Never a Wandering Shop when you need one. |
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Post by fwip on Nov 28, 2015 5:06:32 GMT
I am reminded of Roger Zelazny's "For A Breath I Tarry", about a robot trying to become a Man. It is here.This is the Full Zelazny, heady stuff. Do not consume while operating heavy machinery or small children. I've been playing The Talos Principle. Are you familiar with the game? This story synchronizes well with it. If you're a gamer and you like puzzle games, I highly recommend The Talos Principle. It's currently on sale on Steam for a little under $14, and well worth it, IMO. Thoughts on the story:
I liked it. I don't agree that the primary distinction between a man and a machine is biological. I think that a machine is capable of emulating a man without creating a biological body, and that a perfectly emulated man is identical to a biological one.
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Post by Daedalus on Nov 28, 2015 7:37:52 GMT
I am reminded of Roger Zelazny's "For A Breath I Tarry", about a robot trying to become a Man. It is here.This is the Full Zelazny, heady stuff. Do not consume while operating heavy machinery or small children. I've been playing The Talos Principle. Are you familiar with the game? This story synchronizes well with it. If you're a gamer and you like puzzle games, I highly recommend The Talos Principle. It's currently on sale on Steam for a little under $14, and well worth it, IMO. Thoughts on the story:
I liked it. I don't agree that the primary distinction between a man and a machine is biological. I think that a machine is capable of emulating a man without creating a biological body, and that a perfectly emulated man is identical to a biological one.
Yeah, the characters in-game tend to disagree with you no matter what options you choose I don't think that a non-biological organism can't be human (hopefully you caught the double-negatives there). |
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Post by zbeeblebrox on Nov 28, 2015 8:27:37 GMT
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Post by fwip on Nov 28, 2015 20:56:13 GMT
I've been playing The Talos Principle. Are you familiar with the game? This story synchronizes well with it. If you're a gamer and you like puzzle games, I highly recommend The Talos Principle. It's currently on sale on Steam for a little under $14, and well worth it, IMO. Thoughts on the story:
I liked it. I don't agree that the primary distinction between a man and a machine is biological. I think that a machine is capable of emulating a man without creating a biological body, and that a perfectly emulated man is identical to a biological one.
Yeah, the characters in-game tend to disagree with you no matter what options you choose I don't think that a non-biological organism can't be human (hopefully you caught the double-negatives there). You're agreeing with me, right? |
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Post by calpal on Nov 29, 2015 4:18:08 GMT
Ungh, just had a scary thought... now I'm imagining Robot (or the Cruise ship, rather) becoming some twisted WAU-esque being from SOMA. Or just... just anything from that game, really.
Oh lord, imagine non-humanoid life-forms of the Robots at Gunnerkrigg Court turning into those monstrosities...
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Post by elebenty on Nov 29, 2015 10:25:13 GMT
I am reminded of Roger Zelazny's "For A Breath I Tarry", about a robot trying to become a Man. It is here.This is the Full Zelazny, heady stuff. Do not consume while operating heavy machinery or small children. Thank you for sharing that, I enjoyed it a lot. Started off fairly Faustian, but with multiple twists in other directions towards the end...lovely. Thanks! I think I'm going to go look up what else this guy's written. He wrote quite a bit. My favorite is the Amber series. Yoinked my son's name from them. Refugee , thank you. I hadn't read that particular story yet. |
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Post by Refugee on Nov 29, 2015 15:02:10 GMT
I think I'm going to go look up what else this guy's written. My favorites are this one, "A Rose For Ecclesiastes", and the novel Lord of Light. "The Doors Of His Face, The Lamps Of His Mouth" is high on many lists, as is "The Furies". "Rose", "Doors", and "Furies" are collected together, along with "The Graveyard Heart", in Four for Tomorrow.I greatly enjoyed Jack of Shadows, and probably need to read it again. The Amber series is greatly loved by many, and is possibly his best known work. Lord of Light is, quite simply, one of those stories you must read if you wish to count yourself well-read. It is one of the stories Science Fiction was created to produce. Like the other Lord of story of note, it reads out loud very well indeed. And it contains one of the greatest puns of all time. Collect Zelazny recommendations as you will, but I can't urge you strongly enough not to seek out any reviews before reading. |
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