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Post by Daedalus on Oct 28, 2015 7:00:47 GMT
Serious faces.
Also, Tom's text is great today. I was about to mention that "apologise" was spelled wrong, but then I realized that British people just don't speak American right 
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Post by Gotolei on Oct 28, 2015 7:02:15 GMT
...except for Mort, naturally. Seems she's starting to a self-aware handle on things? |
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Post by Daedalus on Oct 28, 2015 7:05:46 GMT
Seems she's starting to a self-aware handle on things? Maybe? I'm worried that she may go too far, and twist this into further self-guilt for being "selfish" for feeling hurt at all, or decide to quarantine her emotions (read: Fire Elemental) even further due to an increased fear of hurting someone. But perhaps I'm just being pessimistic. So far, the pessimists have been mostly right about the course of Annie's psyche and emotional journey, but that can't be true forever, right? ...right? |
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Post by Trillium on Oct 28, 2015 7:07:26 GMT
Wow, Ysengrin is looking pretty crispy in that arm. Annie now seems to have I together. I'm impressed with both characters.
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Post by Gotolei on Oct 28, 2015 7:09:08 GMT
I'm not gonna pretend to know what I'm talking about when it comes to abuse etc, but if recovering from this sort of thing is anything like the stages of grief then Acceptance and Acknowledgement is probably a good start.
Pretty sure the conversation's going to continue on Friday anyways, I don't see this going by without Chuckles saying at least something. And/or Coyote doing Coyote things.
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Post by Eversist on Oct 28, 2015 7:09:43 GMT
...but that can't be true forever, right? ...right?Tom writes Annie as an incredibly fallible character (which is awesome and makes for a better story), so the pessimists are correct more often than not. But this seems to be a sort of turning point, so maybe it's a turn for the better.  |
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Post by ctso74 on Oct 28, 2015 7:13:21 GMT
Wow, Ysengrin is looking pretty crispy in that arm. Seriously Ysengrin, you need some ointment or something. There's got to be an aloe plant around the forest. If you can find a floating octopus, I think you kind find an aloe vera. Then again, maybe he'll go for the "hook look". More Aquaman, less Captain Hook. |
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Post by Daedalus on Oct 28, 2015 7:14:42 GMT
Wow, Ysengrin is looking pretty crispy in that arm. Seriously Ysengrin, you need some ointment or something. There's got to be an aloe plant around the forest. If you can find a floating octopus, I think you kind find an aloe vera. Then again, maybe he'll go for the "hook look". More Aquaman, less Captain Hook. He's absolutely able to regenerate his arm, so... Either he's kept it that way because he hasn't bothered to regrow it yet, or he's trying to make a point to Annie. |
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Post by arf on Oct 28, 2015 7:16:12 GMT
Seein' ya, Mort!
'Almost hurt the people around me' clearly doesn't cover treewolf arms. Of course, Ys also has anger management issues at times.
Annie's cast of features in panel 7 is *so* like her Dad.
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Post by elebenty on Oct 28, 2015 7:19:23 GMT
He's absolutely able to regenerate his arm, so... Either he's kept it that way because he hasn't bothered to regrow it yet, or he's trying to make a point to Annie. Likely he'll keep it this way until she heads back across the bridge. Next time he'll be as whole as he can ever hope to be. |
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Post by imaginaryfriend on Oct 28, 2015 7:20:25 GMT
I was about to mention that "apologise" was spelled wrong, but then I realized that British people just don't speak American right Nor can they spell "color." Or pronounce "aluminum."  But perhaps I'm just being pessimistic. So far, the pessimists have been mostly right about the course of Annie's psyche and emotional journey, but that can't be true forever, right? ...right?For a while I figured that the return of Antimony's dad would be the resolution of Antimony's problems and the end of the comic, or at least the beginning of the end. But that was before we really met Jeanne. But if you look at the comic overall Antimony is making slow upward progress. Now that Anthony has been defeated by Coyote I am left to wonder if he'll slink away entirely or if he can come up with some sort of fallback control position, or just what he'll do. |
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Post by Daedalus on Oct 28, 2015 7:29:15 GMT
Annie's cast of features in panel 7 is *so* like her Dad. We kept hearing how much Annie was like Surma throughout the comic, in appearance, manner, and heritage. But when emotionally repressed, it's startling how similar she is to her father ( as Coyote once noted). I wonder if her father used to be more open, then something traumatic happened to him and he never recovered. |
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Post by elebenty on Oct 28, 2015 7:44:23 GMT
Nor can they spell "color." Or pronounce "aluminum." That last one is fair game: Sir Humphry made a bit of a mess of naming this new element, at first spelling it alumium (this was in 1807) then changing it to aluminum, and finally settling on aluminium in 1812. Aluminium is correct for scientific publications, but we're still struggling with switching to metric, so don't hold your breath. (But hey, thanks to high fructose corn syrup we finally understand liters.  ) |
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Post by imaginaryfriend on Oct 28, 2015 7:56:54 GMT
but we're still struggling with switching to metric, so don't hold your breath. (But hey, thanks to high fructose corn syrup we finally understand liters. ) Speaking of technocracy (which I did a few days ago in another thread) the ASE-Metric switch argument's a good example. Since the mid-70s I've been hearing about how wonderful it'd be if there was an agency with the power to force the change onto the ISOs... mostly from people who frequently used but had no idea what the term "sunk costs" actually meant and wouldn't care even if they understood how much retooling it would have taken. |
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Post by wlerin on Oct 28, 2015 8:13:35 GMT
I wonder if Annie will remind Ysengrin about that one time he got really, really mad...
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Post by Druplesnubb on Oct 28, 2015 9:20:12 GMT
Annie's cast of features in panel 7 is *so* like her Dad. We kept hearing how much Annie was like Surma throughout the comic, in appearance, manner, and heritage. But when emotionally repressed, it's startling how similar she is to her father ( as Coyote once noted). I wonder if her father used to be more open, then something traumatic happened to him and he never recovered. Did you miss the part where his wife died because of his doing? You know, the thing that made him lose all contact with the rest of the world and abandon civilization for several years? |
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Post by Daedalus on Oct 28, 2015 9:30:06 GMT
We kept hearing how much Annie was like Surma throughout the comic, in appearance, manner, and heritage. But when emotionally repressed, it's startling how similar she is to her father ( as Coyote once noted). I wonder if her father used to be more open, then something traumatic happened to him and he never recovered. Did you miss the part where his wife died because of his doing? You know, the thing that made him lose all contact with the rest of the world and abandon civilization for several years? Did you miss the part where he was emotionally distant way before that, during the flashbacks we've seen of his childhood? |
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Post by keef on Oct 28, 2015 9:43:52 GMT
Wow, Ysengrin is looking pretty crispy in that arm. Seriously Ysengrin, you need some ointment or something. He probably likes to do the pruning in private. It's a bit like shaving, you don't want to get distracted. Time to explain again I see.  as a foreigner I am of course strictly neutral
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Post by calpal on Oct 28, 2015 9:48:30 GMT
Good Lord, Ysengrin, you talk WAAAAAAAAAAAAY too much!
Ah well, Annie. You win some, you lose some. Way to realize your past errors.
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Post by imaginaryfriend on Oct 28, 2015 11:05:04 GMT
Seriously Ysengrin, you need some ointment or something. He probably likes to do the pruning in private. It's a bit like shaving, you don't want to get distracted. I wonder if he can just replace an arm. He may have to replace the whole tree. In that case he'd have to "strip" and he wouldn't do that in front of humans. Or anyone else, actually. Time to explain again I see. as a foreigner I am of course strictly neutral
Heh. However, I'm given to understand New Englanders talk more like the British did a century or two ago then the British do now. |
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Post by Jelly Jellybean on Oct 28, 2015 11:16:55 GMT
'"Almost" hurt the people around me'? She has already hurt the people closest to her and not just Ysengrin. But it appears she isn't ready to admit that yet. After Annie's return from her Summer in the Forest, Kat told her that sometimes it was hard to be her friend. Annie said she was afraid she would do something to make Kat hate her. As much as I dislike Anthony, I think hurting those around her may be more like her mother than her father. |
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Post by Fishy on Oct 28, 2015 11:28:46 GMT
"Actually, that was a fairy I just crushed. The power was within you all along"
I bet Ys can't replace that arm until the charred area comes off. Which wouldn't be hard to do... Maybe it's just more useful to keep it burned at the moment. Also, I know she's being serious but Annie looks absolutely adorable panel 7. Actually now that I'm looking at it, she and Ys should probably go figure out who's screwing around with a flashlight in those bushes behind Annie.
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Post by philman on Oct 28, 2015 11:43:32 GMT
If that arm is a result of 'almost' hurting someone I'd hate to see her definition of actual damage.
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Post by aline on Oct 28, 2015 11:52:57 GMT
If that arm is a result of 'almost' hurting someone I'd hate to see her definition of actual damage. She meant the rabbit, who would have been an unfortunate accident. Ysengrin wasn't an accident. She hurt him on purpose. And she obviously still feels he deserved it.
Ysengrin got her back involved in life, at least, and her anger towards him isn't something she feels any guilt about. There's still work to do, but we're on a steady upwards slope. I continue to be very optimistic about this chapter.
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Post by keef on Oct 28, 2015 12:12:36 GMT
'"Almost" hurt the people around me'? She has already hurt the people closest to her and not just Ysengrin. But it appears she isn't ready to admit that yet. I'm at that point in the translation of today's page (not as fast as I want, work always gets in the way of important things...); at first I thought she meant Bunny-Boy, but it is likely she means Kat and Rey. |
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Post by TBeholder on Oct 28, 2015 12:22:47 GMT
Ysengrin's influence shows. :] Seriously Ysengrin, you need some ointment or something. There's got to be an aloe plant around the forest. If you can find a floating octopus, I think you kind find an aloe vera. You think fresh aloe charcoal would smell better that wooden cinders? If that arm is a result of 'almost' hurting someone I'd hate to see her definition of actual damage. You have seen what happened to those lamp posts, right? |
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Post by todd on Oct 28, 2015 12:42:09 GMT
Now that Anthony has been defeated by Coyote I am left to wonder if he'll slink away entirely or if he can come up with some sort of fallback control position, or just what he'll do. Except that the impression I've received so far is that Anthony isn't really driven (on his own) to control Antimony. He was manipulated into it by the Court, which presumably decided that it was better to act through him since: a) Annie would be more likely to obey restrictions laid down by her father than by Court officials b) if Coyote shows up and protests, the Court can hide behind Anthony with a tone of "He's the one you want! He grounded her!" - as indeed it did. (Though I still rather like the idea that the Court wasn't prepared for Coyote's objections (complete with knocking a building down). And it was an advantage to the Court that Anthony was so broken that he could easily be manipulated - including telling him a story about what they were planning to do about Annie which had a few holes that others might have spotted, but a traumatized, grieving man (who had been through a terrible physical ordeal, on top of that) was in no state to notice. Though Anthony's broken condition wound up turning against the Court; thanks to it, he was unable to counter Coyote's clever arguments, and so yielded and let her resume her visits to the forest - leavintg the Court, presumably, in a very uneasy state. |
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Post by sherni on Oct 28, 2015 13:32:16 GMT
Looks like Annie's beginning to pull herself together? Unless, as Daedalus suggested, this is the start of a spiral of guilt, where she decides she's to blame for everything? But that would make her too much like Anthony, wouldn't it? I think these last few chapters have highlighted both their similarities and their differences. Unlike Anthony, Annie is capable of seeing what her actions do to other people. And she has enough responsibility to take on her job and acknowledge that she wasn't doing her duty.
I still feel that Ysengrin was wrong to force her to take back her fire, but what's done is done. I hope he'll get called out on it, but eh... I'm glad Annie didn't apologise.
And hi there, Mort! Good to see ya! Even as a memory...
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Post by imaginaryfriend on Oct 28, 2015 14:33:58 GMT
Now that Anthony has been defeated by Coyote I am left to wonder if he'll slink away entirely or if he can come up with some sort of fallback control position, or just what he'll do. Except that the impression I've received so far is that Anthony isn't really driven (on his own) to control Antimony. He was manipulated into it by the Court, which presumably decided that it was better to act through him since: a) Annie would be more likely to obey restrictions laid down by her father than by Court officials b) if Coyote shows up and protests, the Court can hide behind Anthony with a tone of "He's the one you want! He grounded her!" - as indeed it did. (Though I still rather like the idea that the Court wasn't prepared for Coyote's objections (complete with knocking a building down). And it was an advantage to the Court that Anthony was so broken that he could easily be manipulated - including telling him a story about what they were planning to do about Annie which had a few holes that others might have spotted, but a traumatized, grieving man (who had been through a terrible physical ordeal, on top of that) was in no state to notice. Though Anthony's broken condition wound up turning against the Court; thanks to it, he was unable to counter Coyote's clever arguments, and so yielded and let her resume her visits to the forest - leavintg the Court, presumably, in a very uneasy state. Anthony is probably in an uneasy state himself. Have the reasons why Anthony returned disappeared or gotten bigger? Would he imagine that his brief reappearance would be enough to set Antimony straight? My guess is that he'll still try to assert the same level of control, maybe more so. It will be an indicator of how broken he is. I figure he'd normally alternate between the extremes of over-parenting (in his own way) or giving up and removing himself from the situation entirely. We know his personal preference [under the banner of Antimony not wanting to see the man who killed her mother] but will he be mentally flexible enough to find work-arounds to this obstacle [Coyote] or will he quit and turn his attentions to, say, making a device that will solve this problem for him? Or just quit? Or will he have an epiphany and suddenly become the world's greatest dad [just kidding-- but maybe he will start to make progress because of this incident... but don't hold your breath]. |
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Post by cptnerd on Oct 28, 2015 15:56:42 GMT
Nor can they spell "color." Or pronounce "aluminum." That last one is fair game: Sir Humphry made a bit of a mess of naming this new element, at first spelling it alumium (this was in 1807) then changing it to aluminum, and finally settling on aluminium in 1812. Aluminium is correct for scientific publications, but we're still struggling with switching to metric, so don't hold your breath. (But hey, thanks to high fructose corn syrup we finally understand liters. ) So, what about "Platinum"? Platinium? |
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