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Post by arf on Oct 7, 2015 7:07:47 GMT
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Post by Chancellor on Oct 7, 2015 7:08:52 GMT
Ruh-Roh.
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Post by arf on Oct 7, 2015 7:09:04 GMT
Annie certainly didn't expect that reaction!
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Post by fish on Oct 7, 2015 7:09:44 GMT
Ooh snap! 0_0
I did not expect this turn events.
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Post by Trillium on Oct 7, 2015 7:10:52 GMT
Ysengin can see what Annie did. He is also not impressed with Anthony.
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Post by temeritee on Oct 7, 2015 7:11:52 GMT
Ysengrin saying "So?" just might force Annie to confront her feelings and explain why she's feeling them. Yes Ysengrin!
Also note Rabbit holding his arm up to stop Smitty from walking forward
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Post by imaginaryfriend on Oct 7, 2015 7:12:41 GMT
It's probably been a while since Ysengrin was not the alpha. Or was an adolescent. And he probably wasn't ever in school. That aside, he's got a point.
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Post by sapientcoffee on Oct 7, 2015 7:16:29 GMT
Friday gonna be gud.
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Post by arf on Oct 7, 2015 7:16:59 GMT
Ooh snap! 0_0 I did not expect this turn events. "How can you possibly understand, Ysengrin? It's not like you've ever had a father." Ys' seeming indifference ties in with Coyote's reference to 'a Broken Man' rather than 'Fire Head Girl's Father'. Even though it's been insinuated that Coyote knows Tony, he doesn't seem to have recognised him. Now wondering if Ys' strategy is to get Annie mad so the healing can begin. |
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Post by Anthony on Oct 7, 2015 7:20:18 GMT
It would probably be hard to explain to Ysengrin.  |
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Post by Kya on Oct 7, 2015 7:33:21 GMT
"How can you possibly understand, Ysengrin? It's not like you've ever had a father." "Neither have you." |
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Post by Trillium on Oct 7, 2015 7:33:49 GMT
In a way what Coyote is to Ysengrin, Anthony is to Annie. Tony is not a god but he helped create Annie and as her father he does have certain amount of authority over her. I'm not sure how much Ysengin would understand about the place a father has in a child's life.
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Post by Freedomfiend on Oct 7, 2015 7:37:31 GMT
Holy cow, Ysengrin. Super unchill.
Still, someone's going to say something that Annie needs to hear, and it can't be said until someone tells her "why does it matter that your father is back?" in so many words. Whether that someone is Ysengrin or Annie...
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Post by matoyak on Oct 7, 2015 7:47:40 GMT
This has the same feel as "You are weak".
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Post by Trillium on Oct 7, 2015 7:51:51 GMT
This has the same feel as "You are weak". I think it is more like, what has that got to do with any thing? Ysengrin is being very unambiguously. |
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Post by eyemyself on Oct 7, 2015 8:00:51 GMT
Ys, still a better communicator/father figure than Tony.
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Post by speedwell on Oct 7, 2015 8:07:24 GMT
It could as easily mean, "Oh, besides the fact that he's a complete jerk, what specific things did he do that led up to this?" as "Yeah, big deal, the arse finally showed up, why should you react so harshly instead of standing up to him like a fire elemental?". In fact I am not sure Ysengrin didn't mean the first, and Annie read the second. In any case, Ysengrin the Cognitive Behavior Therapist, hooray. I just hope that Annie's wode-eyed shocked expression indicates the light of reason dawning between her ears, and not a displaced rant against safe and protective father-figure Ysengrin that should better be directed to dangerous father Anthony, like when she went off on Reynardine for something she couldn't confront her mother with. If she even retained the capacity to rant, that is.
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Post by TBeholder on Oct 7, 2015 8:10:23 GMT
Ys' seeming indifference ties in with Coyote's reference to 'a Broken Man' rather than 'Fire Head Girl's Father'. Even though it's been insinuated that Coyote knows Tony, he doesn't seem to have recognised him. It's more curious that the first time 'Grin threw Anthony's name like a Silver Bullet (and it did have an "interesting" effect, indeed), and now all this mention deserves is "So?" Then again, back then he was posturing. Now wondering if Ys' strategy is to get Annie mad so the healing can begin. Ah, but she cannot. What's with keeping her anger separate. That's the beauty of it. |
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Post by youwiththeface on Oct 7, 2015 8:11:48 GMT
This has the same feel as "You are weak". Feels like the exact opposite to me. The implication seems to be (whether or not Ysengrin knows it) that her father can't get in the way of her life, so there's no reason for her to act like he can. |
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Post by philman on Oct 7, 2015 8:22:50 GMT
Straight Talkin' Ysengrin, at it again.
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Post by gwydion on Oct 7, 2015 8:50:44 GMT
Now I AM excited for Friday  Can't help but feel the Wolf Tree god has a point there. |
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Post by Daedalus on Oct 7, 2015 9:13:07 GMT
See, Annie's always used her father's actions as a form of excuse. Hopefully, that last panel is a revelation that she shouldn't define herself exclusively by her father's expectations. I doubt she will see it that way. But maybe she will, since it's been about nine months of repression for Annie and it's high time for a revelation  Ysengrin is harsh, but he'll do her mental state some good if she'll let him. |
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Post by radia on Oct 7, 2015 9:34:54 GMT
Also note Rabbit holding his arm up to stop Smitty from walking forward I think he might just be pointing at something. |
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Post by CoyoteReborn on Oct 7, 2015 9:42:30 GMT
My cousin Ysengrin refuses to bend to anyone or anything, and is as unyielding as the wood that composes his body - a most fitting boon he asked of Me, yes yes! He confuses strength with rigidity, just as Fire Head Girl sees her subservience as the respect she owes her father the Broken Man. She refuses to embracing the birthright from her mother: the fire blazing bright in her soul, yearning to break free! Instead she wears masks and façades to hide herself, mimicking the man calling himself her Father. My pet wolf and My elemental friend could learn something from the other, hmm? But My playthings are more fun when they're not all...reasonable! I might intervene soon, just to keep things interesting, when I get bored of the civility... |
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Post by calpal on Oct 7, 2015 9:51:05 GMT
"Wh - what do you mean so?!"
"So your father has returned. What's the point?"
"He - duuuuuuuuuuuude! Have you NOT been paying attention?! Do you not remember how important my father is?!"
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Post by aline on Oct 7, 2015 10:14:32 GMT
It could as easily mean, "Oh, besides the fact that he's a complete jerk, what specific things did he do that led up to this?" as "Yeah, big deal, the arse finally showed up, why should you react so harshly instead of standing up to him like a fire elemental?". In fact I am not sure Ysengrin didn't mean the first, and Annie read the second. It's dangerous to speculate on the meaning of a single word sentence, but.... I think it is neither. Ysengrin's initial advice, that Annie has mentionned at the top of the page, wasn't "How do you deal with the jerks in your life". It was about "How do you manage your own anger". In other words, it's about what you do with yourself, the roads you chose to take as a person.
What Annie did to herself was in a moment of utter distress caused by Anthony, yes, but its roots go beyond that. The main conflict right now is no longer Annie/Anthony, it's Annie/Annie. It's not that she can't deal with her father. It's that she can't (won't) deal with herself, her own feelings, her own nature.
Anthony isn't at all the centre of the picture here. I think Ysengrin is trying to make her understand that.
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Post by pasko on Oct 7, 2015 10:28:11 GMT
Did you mean Broken Man ? |
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Post by fish on Oct 7, 2015 10:31:50 GMT
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Post by Jelly Jellybean on Oct 7, 2015 10:46:41 GMT
Also note Rabbit holding his arm up to stop Smitty from walking forward I think he might just be pointing at something. "Uh... where are you guys going? My friend lives over there." |
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Post by stef1987 on Oct 7, 2015 12:23:06 GMT
hahaha, last panel,
Dat face!
priceless!
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