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Post by fwip on May 15, 2015 7:03:32 GMT
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Post by Elysium on May 15, 2015 7:05:15 GMT
Good, cut the pretentious homework bullshit and let's get right to the central matter.
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Post by Sky Schemer on May 15, 2015 7:05:34 GMT
Well, this may be the first page we have seen where Anthony's not being a total dick. I am guessing that is not going to last.
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Post by Lightice on May 15, 2015 7:05:47 GMT
Beat me by a second! Looks like we're finally getting some answers. Wonder how long Kat can stand and listen to this before exploding...
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Post by fwip on May 15, 2015 7:06:36 GMT
The lack of trust towards Annie is a little sickening. The fact that it only took a glance suggests that Antimony is used to this...
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Post by elebenty on May 15, 2015 7:07:02 GMT
Beat me by a second! Looks like we're finally getting some answers. Wonder how long Kat can stand and listen to this before exploding... I'd say until next Monday, but maybe she can bite her tongue until Friday. |
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Post by Chancellor on May 15, 2015 7:07:16 GMT
How nightmarish I envision that segment of Annie's existence to be.
Striving so damn hard to do her work on time, without help, and with extra tagged on; not to obtain praise from her father, but to avoid his disdain for failing to do so.
*let's not forget having constant suspicion undermining her every act.
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Post by youwiththeface on May 15, 2015 7:17:53 GMT
So...does he ever let her out of her room to do anything besides school work? He's allowing Kat to be here, but it seems like that might've been because a meeting of the three had been especially scheduled.
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Post by Fishy on May 15, 2015 7:25:43 GMT
I feel that if everything was going smoothly for Tony concerning Renard, he'd never bring it up. Assuming that's right, what's the trouble?
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Post by Chancellor on May 15, 2015 7:27:58 GMT
So...does he ever let her out of her room to do anything besides school work? He's allowing Kat to be here, but it seems like that might've been because a meeting of the three had been especially scheduled. You know, I would really have taken the stance that even he couldn't outright lock her up/indefinitely forbid her from leaving, but with this revelation of extra work he's giving her, he may just be effectively doing just that. Poor Annie's bound to be so afraid of disappointing/desperate to impress Anthony that it wouldn't surprise me in the least if she hasn't so much as taken a free walk during the time not claimed by classes or direct homework. |
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Post by madragoran on May 15, 2015 7:30:45 GMT
I can't wait till Monday!!!111 Also if it has been a few days and Rey is still not in his possession there is hope yes? Say it's so! Also Kat's face in panel 3 makes me want to kiss her! "harumph!".
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Post by aline on May 15, 2015 7:31:25 GMT
The lack of trust towards Annie is a little sickening. The fact that it only took a glance suggests that Antimony is used to this... I take it as a positive that he simply accepted Annie's word when she said she wasn't helped.
To me it doesn't look like Anthony expected Kat to be there, or that the three had a meeting. He doesn't have any reason to want to involve Kat in this. Neither did Annie seem to expect the Renard topic to be brought up. I may be wrong, but I think she was only expecting the homework part. She looks embarrassed too. Did she take steps to protect Renard? Where is he anyway? Sulking in a drawer? Is he already under Anthony's control?
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Post by fwip on May 15, 2015 7:37:39 GMT
The lack of trust towards Annie is a little sickening. The fact that it only took a glance suggests that Antimony is used to this... I take it as a positive that he simply accepted Annie's word when she said she wasn't helped. I suppose. Maybe he didn't trust Annie to refuse help from Kat but did trust Annie to not lie to his face. |
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Post by smjjames on May 15, 2015 7:37:58 GMT
The lack of trust towards Annie is a little sickening. The fact that it only took a glance suggests that Antimony is used to this... I take it as a positive that he simply accepted Annie's word when she said she wasn't helped.
To me it doesn't look like Anthony expected Kat to be there, or that the three had a meeting. He doesn't have any reason to want to involve Kat in this. Neither did Annie seem to expect the Renard topic to be brought up. I may be wrong, but I think she was only expecting the homework part. She looks embarrassed too. Did she take steps to protect Renard? Where is he anyway? Sulking in a drawer? Is he already under Anthony's control?
She already forbade Reynard from speaking and he went into hibernation mode, so there's that. No idea if Anthony can override that or not, I'm guessing no. |
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Post by youwiththeface on May 15, 2015 7:44:57 GMT
To me it doesn't look like Anthony expected Kat to be there, or that the three had a meeting. He doesn't have any reason to want to involve Kat in this. Neither did Annie seem to expect the Renard topic to be brought up. I may be wrong, but I think she was only expecting the homework part. She looks embarrassed too. Did she take steps to protect Renard? Where is he anyway? Sulking in a drawer? Is he already under Anthony's control? Kat asked on the last page when Anthony was supposed to get there. To me that sounded like a meeting had been arranged. Plus Anthony didn't look surprised to see Kat there; he didn't ask her what she was doing there or anything. |
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Post by arf on May 15, 2015 7:57:11 GMT
Annie's response in the last panel suggests that she has a little resistance left in her.
Maybe she gets to explain the full nature of the geis placing Rey under her control, ending with an innocent suggestion that Tony could check with Mr. Eglamore, if he likes.
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Post by zbeeblebrox on May 15, 2015 8:14:28 GMT
About Reynard indeed, Tony.
About Reynard indeed.
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Post by csj on May 15, 2015 8:15:58 GMT
Sorry, Ray. Her heart belongs to Daddy.
Literally.
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Post by hypixion on May 15, 2015 8:44:26 GMT
The lack of trust towards Annie is a little sickening. The fact that it only took a glance suggests that Antimony is used to this... Well, after years of cheating I really can't blame him for it. He actually behaves nice in this page, but he only just showed up so we'll see if it lasts. |
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Post by artezzatrigger on May 15, 2015 8:59:42 GMT
"He's been an utter gentleman and I think we could become fantastic friends, what say you we all go have a group picnic sometime?"
Ahaha, could you imagine?
Assuming off screen shenanigans haven't been going on, hes probably going to say that Renard has been handed off to the court. The terms of ownership have never been made quite clear, though, so its also possible that control hasn't been properly passed to Anthony. As someone mentioned earlier, he could still be in hibernation.
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Post by TBeholder on May 15, 2015 9:03:15 GMT
Beat me by a second! Looks like we're finally getting some answers. Wonder how long Kat can stand and listen to this before exploding... Kat is hot-blooded, not stupid. And may try to exploit Annie's wishful thinking back, which requires waiting to the last moment. The lack of trust towards Annie is a little sickening. The fact that it only took a glance suggests that Antimony is used to this... Or she is overeager to please. Oh, wait. Also, a thought: it's possible that Kat hoped her presence will provoke Tony to an open (and unfair) accusation against herself, rather than Annie who will accept anything and nod?.. I feel that if everything was going smoothly for Tony concerning Renard, he'd never bring it up. Assuming that's right, what's the trouble? Trouble #1 is: who he is to claim any rights to "control over" Renard? Just someone who happened to be in position to bully a toy out of a girl who owned it as a gift? It's understandable if Renard's former captors - Donlans or Eglamore - would be involved. Or if the Headmaster officially removed them from this position as failed. But what this guy have to do with this matter? Remember the smell of phosphine mentioned before? It intensifies. |
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Post by aline on May 15, 2015 9:17:22 GMT
To me it doesn't look like Anthony expected Kat to be there, or that the three had a meeting. He doesn't have any reason to want to involve Kat in this. Neither did Annie seem to expect the Renard topic to be brought up. I may be wrong, but I think she was only expecting the homework part. She looks embarrassed too. Did she take steps to protect Renard? Where is he anyway? Sulking in a drawer? Is he already under Anthony's control? Kat asked on the last page when Anthony was supposed to get there. To me that sounded like a meeting had been arranged. Plus Anthony didn't look surprised to see Kat there; he didn't ask her what she was doing there or anything. Yeah, you may be right. I just don't understand why they would... |
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Post by hypixion on May 15, 2015 9:18:06 GMT
Beat me by a second! Looks like we're finally getting some answers. Wonder how long Kat can stand and listen to this before exploding... Kat is hot-blooded, not stupid. And may try to exploit Annie's wishful thinking back, which requires waiting to the last moment. The lack of trust towards Annie is a little sickening. The fact that it only took a glance suggests that Antimony is used to this... Or she is overeager to please. Oh, wait. Also, a thought: it's possible that Kat hoped her presence will provoke Tony to an open (and unfair) accusation against herself, rather than Annie who will accept anything and nod?.. I feel that if everything was going smoothly for Tony concerning Renard, he'd never bring it up. Assuming that's right, what's the trouble? Trouble #1 is: who he is to claim any rights to "control over" Renard? Just someone who happened to be in position to bully a toy out of a girl who owned it as a gift? It's understandable if Renard's former captors - Donlans or Eglamore - would be involved. Or if the Headmaster officially removed them from this position as failed. But what this guy have to do with this matter? Remember the smell of phosphine mentioned before? It intensifies. He is still her father, that gives him every right to do this. Everything he has done until now is not bad, it is just the way he has done it that is bad. |
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Post by youwiththeface on May 15, 2015 9:50:53 GMT
Kat is hot-blooded, not stupid. And may try to exploit Annie's wishful thinking back, which requires waiting to the last moment. Or she is overeager to please. Oh, wait. Also, a thought: it's possible that Kat hoped her presence will provoke Tony to an open (and unfair) accusation against herself, rather than Annie who will accept anything and nod?.. Trouble #1 is: who he is to claim any rights to "control over" Renard? Just someone who happened to be in position to bully a toy out of a girl who owned it as a gift? It's understandable if Renard's former captors - Donlans or Eglamore - would be involved. Or if the Headmaster officially removed them from this position as failed. But what this guy have to do with this matter? Remember the smell of phosphine mentioned before? It intensifies. He is still her father, that gives him every right to do this. Everything he has done until now is not bad, it is just the way he has done it that is bad. He is still her father, that gives him every right to do this ≠ Everything he has done until now is not bad, it is just the way he has done it that is bad. And the latter isn't even true in the case of forbidding her from going back to the forest and taking Renard given he didn't even give a proper reason for either. And if it was his decision that Annie cut her hair and dress the way she does, well... |
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Post by hypixion on May 15, 2015 10:12:23 GMT
He is still her father, that gives him every right to do this. Everything he has done until now is not bad, it is just the way he has done it that is bad. He is still her father, that gives him every right to do this ≠ Everything he has done until now is not bad, it is just the way he has done it that is bad. And the latter isn't even true in the case of forbidding her from going back to the forest and taking Renard given he didn't even give a proper reason for either. And if it was his decision that Annie cut her hair and dress the way she does, well... The forests is dangerous, we have seen that and even if she can handle herself (and I believe she can't forever, until now she has been lucky and under protection) and has protection human have a specific view of the forest, yes, anthony is in his right here. Taking away Renard, same thing, he might think Renard is dangerous or a bad influence on her. He has killed someone and has tried to kill her as well, he is in his right. We also have to consider the fact that Anthony does not know about the details relationship between Annie and Renard, that they are now friends and been for a very long time. And the last isn't exactly good but it isn't bad either, parents do this all the time. Unless we know the full details of why he has done this we cannot judge it. People seem to forget that this is what parents do, taking care of their children and reigning them in when they do something they shouldn't. I saw someone in reddit saying that the adults in the court just let Annie do whatever she wants which results in her having a total lack of respect for her superiors and the rules. We all like to think that Anthony is the devil here, and I can see why because he has done things that no parent should do (abandoning Annie) However, what he is doing now is something he has every right to, but he is doing in the wrong way in many peoples eyes and the fact that he was gone for years only gives people more reason to say what he is doing is wrong. However, I would like to say he is right. People are victimizing Annie and portraying her as someone who does nothing wrong but she had done numerous things wrong. See her lack of respect for her teachers, superiors, rules, etc... |
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Post by zbeeblebrox on May 15, 2015 10:19:52 GMT
Kat asked on the last page when Anthony was supposed to get there. To me that sounded like a meeting had been arranged. Plus Anthony didn't look surprised to see Kat there; he didn't ask her what she was doing there or anything. Yeah, you may be right. I just don't understand why they would... Perhaps because Renard hasn't been handed over yet. And for some reason, Kat is needed for that. Maybe she convinced Annie to pass her control of Rey during the move in order to protect him? |
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Post by calpal on May 15, 2015 10:29:07 GMT
Wow, you really can feel the hatred that links those two, Kat and Anthony. Or maybe it's just the hatred that Kat has, because who knows what Anthony is thinking at this point (other than "give me Reynard now")?
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Post by quark on May 15, 2015 10:58:13 GMT
Wow, you really can feel the hatred that links those two, Kat and Anthony. Or maybe it's just the hatred that Kat has, because who knows what Anthony is thinking at this point (other than "give me Reynard now")? Yes, I think it's mostly Kat's anger. Her hatred had a long build-up; she didn't like the guy long before she knew him, because she saw how much he hurt her even when he's not here. And she still had an excuse for that. Anthony's motives are hard to read, but I don't think he likes Kat; maybe he sees her as a bad influence. I don't think he'll act on it, though. |
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Post by philman on May 15, 2015 11:08:43 GMT
Christ... Annie is behaving like an abused puppy here, overly eager to please, just looking for some form of approval from her master father, and every time she gets no emotional response back she just redoubles her efforts.
I am intregued with what happens now. Tony is having some sort of problem with Renard, we don't know whether Annie has handed him over yet or not. He might be coming to claim him, or he might just be having trouble getting him to talk. Whichever is the case, I expect having Kat here will result in some sort of confrontation.
Also I hope Tony sees the card...
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Post by Jelly Jellybean on May 15, 2015 11:16:57 GMT
Anthony's motives are hard to read, but I don't think he likes Kat; maybe he sees her as a bad influence. I don't think he'll act on it, though. I still wonder if Anthony wishes Kat was his daughter. Probably not because of those inconvenient emotions Kat displays (and because my predictions/speculations haven't been very accurate). But Kat has all the academic success Anthony expected from Annie and, as far as Anthony knows, Kat appears to have no etheric entanglements. I don't know if Anthony would view Kat as a bad influence. Maybe a complicated variable he can't entirely control. I can see butterflies on the other side of the world keeping Anthony from sleeping soundly at night. |
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