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Post by Nepycros on Mar 30, 2015 7:02:04 GMT
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Post by vakri on Mar 30, 2015 7:03:01 GMT
I guess, It's Tony who will go down in flames. Of fandom hatered.
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Post by Nepycros on Mar 30, 2015 7:03:47 GMT
I guess, It's Tony who will go down in flames. Of fandom hatered. I was doing my darndest to make a flame elemental joke, but in the heat of the moment, trying to score the thread opening status, I had naught but failure.  |
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Post by edzepp on Mar 30, 2015 7:03:51 GMT
But we just got the Friends-style apartment! Don't take this away from me!
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Post by OrzBrain on Mar 30, 2015 7:03:57 GMT
The Court knew and yet did nothing? Why?
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Post by Nepycros on Mar 30, 2015 7:04:26 GMT
The Court knew and yet did nothing? Why? She died failed and we did nothing. |
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Post by Chancellor on Mar 30, 2015 7:04:42 GMT
Oh no he doesn't!
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Post by snipertom on Mar 30, 2015 7:04:52 GMT
The Court knew and yet did nothing? Why? She failed and we did nothing. It was worth it |
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Post by edzepp on Mar 30, 2015 7:05:32 GMT
Goddamn it people, let's not get robot all up ins.
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Post by Fishy on Mar 30, 2015 7:07:17 GMT
Somehow, I find myself less than surprised that the Court was aware of it. I guess this explains the lack of book. Still, I almost expected Kat to be angry at Annie. Shame on me. Go get 'im Kat! Give him a good ol' Bap! Though at the same time... I think Kat being mad isn't completely out of the question yet. Just, y'know, one thing at a time. |
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Post by Nepycros on Mar 30, 2015 7:08:40 GMT
Somehow, I find myself less than surprised that the Court was aware of it. I guess this explains the lack of book. Still, I almost expected Kat to be angry at Annie. Shame on me. Go get 'im Kat! Give him a good ol' Bap! Though at the same time... I think Kat being mad isn't completely out of the question yet. Just, y'know, one thing at a time. They've got sensors in their students' food. I doubt they'd be so naive as to not notice every conceivable instance where students are cheating in their technological wonderland. |
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Post by edzepp on Mar 30, 2015 7:08:53 GMT
Yeah, she's here to give Anthony a piece of her mind. Annie will get one later.
@fishy: It's just weird that they haven't really done anything up to now. This seems like Anthony's initiative.
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Post by imaginaryfriend on Mar 30, 2015 7:09:15 GMT
The Court knew and yet did nothing? Why? I wonder how long they've known. Given what he goes on to say in panels #2 and #3 I bet they didn't know the full extent of it until Anthony Carver returned, at least. [edit] Passing her then dropping her back a year on the first day makes no sense. Unless you're Anthony Carver, maybe. [/edit] |
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Post by wombat on Mar 30, 2015 7:09:19 GMT
The Court knew and yet did nothing? Why? Maybe because the Court is awful. Or, on a less bitter wavelength, maybe they wanted to see where it went. Maybe they wanted to see how she would manage. Or maybe they figured she was siding with the forest, so what's the point of educating her. Or she'd end up being a medium, so how much science does she really need. Basically I have lots of theories and no answers. (#The subtitle of this forum) (#it's late here) |
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Post by esc7 on Mar 30, 2015 7:09:24 GMT
This is like every nightmare I've ever had rolled into one. Disapproving father, classroom humiliation, and now revoking her academic progress.
I don't know how certain I am that this is a dream anymore, it seems to be going so long, but I damn well hope it is because Annie shouldn't have to suffer like this.
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Post by SilverbackRon on Mar 30, 2015 7:12:49 GMT
We had been worried that he would somehow force a divide between Annie and Kat, perhaps no longer letting them share a room. But this is a whole new level. Not only in a different room, but a different year. Annie moves back into the underwater habitat with Lindsey and the Year 9 crowd, a class she is unlikely to have any friends. And no classes with Kat or the others...  |
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Post by wombat on Mar 30, 2015 7:13:06 GMT
Maybe he's using this to build up to, "Or else you will spend your afternoons/weekends being tutored by me, redoing this plagiarized work."
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Post by edzepp on Mar 30, 2015 7:13:51 GMT
We had been worried that he would somehow force a divide between Annie and Kat, perhaps no longer letting them share a room. But this is a whole new level. Not only in a different room, but a different year. Annie moves back into the underwater habitat with Lindsey and the Year 9 crowd, a class she is unlikely to have any friends. And no classes with Kat or the others... But... but... Friends apartment. |
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Post by vakri on Mar 30, 2015 7:16:48 GMT
But we just got the Friends-style apartment! Don't take this away from me! So no one told you dad was gonna be this way... |
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Post by edzepp on Mar 30, 2015 7:18:09 GMT
But we just got the Friends-style apartment! Don't take this away from me! So no one told you dad was gonna be this way... Oh you. |
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Post by Anthony on Mar 30, 2015 7:20:31 GMT
The Court knew and yet did nothing? Why? Maybe because the Court is awful. Or, on a less bitter wavelength, maybe they wanted to see where it went. Maybe they wanted to see how she would manage. Maybe the Court wanted to use it against Annie at the right moment? You know, to make the Forest medium more obedient. |
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Post by bedinsis on Mar 30, 2015 7:22:47 GMT
I'm not saying it's unwarranted to let someone who has plagiarized as much as Annie to repeat a year; I am however questioning if Mr. Carver's primary concern is his daughter's academic results.
At least we now know why she didn't receive the textbook.
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Post by aquamafia on Mar 30, 2015 7:23:05 GMT
It's a couple of highschool/middle school level courses, who cares?
Annie already has a full time job lined up for her before she even leaves school. If Gunnerkrigg court is akin to a private school, their education system probably gave her more than enough fundamental knowledge to get by in the world. Not to mention she was privately tutored by her mother, and learned quite a bit with the psychopomps.
Honestly, repeating year 9 has no benefit to her. Just make her re-do the assignments or have Kat privately tutor her (under supervision to prevent further cheating.) The extra course load on top of her normal responsibilities is punishment enough for cheating. There are numerous options available to make Annie accountable for the material without alienating her from her classmates or humiliating her further. Not to mention that he's making life decisions for Annie after abandoning her for so long. She already had a life plan that the court is complicit with and this is just hurting her future.
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Post by wombat on Mar 30, 2015 7:24:28 GMT
But we just got the Friends-style apartment! Don't take this away from me! So no one told you dad was gonna be this way... "Did your relationship with your daughter end: A. Happily B. Medium or C. In the total abandonment of her in a strange environment" |
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Post by KMar on Mar 30, 2015 7:27:37 GMT
Well I'm quite torn whether this is sensible course of action, school policy wise. Plagiarism is bad, there's question of academic honesty, and so on. However, 1) assuming Annie did pass exams on her own without cheating, this seems rather harsh. (Assuming there was exams, and the grade wasn't based on final homework projects only.) Then again, if without taking into account all the plagiarized work, Annie's grade would have been "didn't pass the course"  , I don't know what other options there are. Redo all the plagiarized homework? 2) Especially so, taking account this is a school on, what, maybe primary? secondary? (I don't remember specifics of UK system) level, not institution for tertiary education. (Edit. I mean, the primary goal (probably) is that children learn a) things like physics b) things like to socialize, not to cheat, etc. Some punishment (detention or so) for cheating, and ensuring she has learnt the subject stuff would probably suffice, because I don't think any serious degrees are given?) However, again, any concept of academic honesty (if seriously enforced in a manner like this) would call also for the Court to immediately respond and act it became aware of the dishonesty, and not let it continue. And anyway, while all this might be reasonable (for a teacher / administrative person who has the primary responsibility for overseeing Annie's studies "in the system"), the way Anthony is handling this as a father... ugh. |
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Post by edzepp on Mar 30, 2015 7:28:07 GMT
In seriousness though, we JUST got the new living arrangements last chapter, so I don't think we'll be abandoning that nearly immediately.
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Post by Daedalus on Mar 30, 2015 7:28:46 GMT
... ... ... Well. In any other webcomic, I'd say that the author simply couldn't do this. But Tom might, but it would likely require discarding the whole class of peers that Antimony has gained throughout the comic. Personally I suspect that this will be followed by something like "If either of you wants to stay in this class, since I have evidence of your cheating, you'll have to do what I say and follow my instructions..." Also, this might be the final nail in the coffin for Anthony fans. zimmyzims, report!
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Post by Nepycros on Mar 30, 2015 7:31:01 GMT
... ... ... Well. In any other webcomic, I'd say that the author simply couldn't do this. But Tom might, but it would require discarding the whole class of peers that Antimony has gained throughout the comic. Personally I suspect that this will be followed by something like "If either of you wants to stay in this class, since I have evidence of your cheating, you'll have to do what I say and follow my instructions..." Also, this might be the final nail in the coffin for Anthony fans. zimmyzims, report!
Annie's in a weird boat. On the one hand, everyone loves her and tolerates her existence no matter where she is. On the other, there was that brief blip in time where everyone up and acted like she was a scary scare-face on the camping trip because she could do a magic trick (which I'm not totally convinced is a valid character lean, given how they acted around her at every other point). What I'm saying is, there's a decent divide as to whether the other students will cut their losses and move on without Annie, or all opt to oppose Anthony (and the Court's) decision by voluntarily holding themselves back a year. |
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Post by edzepp on Mar 30, 2015 7:31:36 GMT
... ... ... Well. In any other webcomic, I'd say that the author simply couldn't do this. But Tom might, but it would likely require discarding the whole class of peers that Antimony has gained throughout the comic. Personally I suspect that this will be followed by something like "If either of you wants to stay in this class, since I have evidence of your cheating, you'll have to do what I say and follow my instructions..." Also, this might be the final nail in the coffin for Anthony fans. zimmyzims, report!
Well, the thing is, this is JUST reasonable enough to squeak through a little benefit of the doubt. The debate is not over, good sir. |
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Post by wombat on Mar 30, 2015 7:32:12 GMT
In seriousness though, we JUST got the new living arrangements last chapter, so I don't think we'll be abandoning that nearly immediately. I was trying to weigh if one knew one would be largely discarding a setting one created rather quickly, would one be more likely to create something that many references exist for and which could be amusing, or use it as an opportunity to draw something totally awesome but impractical to draw frequently... |
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, I don't know what other options there are. Redo all the plagiarized homework? 2) Especially so, taking account this is a school on, what, maybe primary? secondary? (I don't remember specifics of UK system) level, not institution for tertiary education. (Edit. I mean, the primary goal (probably) is that children learn a) things like physics b) things like to socialize, not to cheat, etc. Some punishment (detention or so) for cheating, and ensuring she has learnt the subject stuff would probably suffice, because I don't think any serious degrees are given?)
