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Post by Gotolei on Jan 23, 2015 8:01:54 GMT
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Post by OGRuddawg on Jan 23, 2015 8:05:02 GMT
Dammit I wanted to make the thread first! You beat me by like 30 seconds haha nice posting skills
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Post by Daedalus on Jan 23, 2015 8:05:17 GMT
BAH!I'm starting to see why Rey and Coyote got along. Dammit I wanted to make the thread first! You beat me by like 30 seconds haha nice posting skills 12:01:54 is decent. If we're really trying, we can do it by 12:00:20. (Though it's 2am here.)
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Post by Elysium on Jan 23, 2015 8:06:49 GMT
Etheric Coyote has to be one of my all time favorite designs.
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Post by OGRuddawg on Jan 23, 2015 8:06:49 GMT
Coyote, your family resemblance to Rey is showing....
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Post by OGRuddawg on Jan 23, 2015 8:08:22 GMT
It's 3 am in my timezone, so my posting skills might be a little slow haha.
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Post by Gotolei on Jan 23, 2015 8:12:45 GMT
 hee E: and yeah, about 20 seconds is the norm for when people are actually trying to get it quickly  |
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Post by fwip on Jan 23, 2015 8:16:16 GMT
"dear"
Not to be a stick in the mud, but I think that Annie is probably far too comfortable around Coyote. You'll remember it's gotten her in trouble in the past. She's grown up around these beings, and seems to take their power for granted, and forget the dangers.
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Post by philman on Jan 23, 2015 8:16:44 GMT
always 9:00am here, bit hard to post at work (although always a sneaky check once get here...).
Somehow I doubt coyote's benign questions about Kat.
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Post by sapientcoffee on Jan 23, 2015 8:28:21 GMT
Tricksters are rarely benign!
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Post by imaginaryfriend on Jan 23, 2015 8:37:56 GMT
"dear" Not to be a stick in the mud, but I think that Annie is probably far too comfortable around Coyote. You'll remember it's gotten her in trouble in the past. She's grown up around these beings, and seems to take their power for granted, and forget the dangers. I know I was one of the early adopters of this line of thinking but since Torn Sea there seems to be some Toon Physics in play protecting the kids during their adventures... so go ahead, Antimony, slap that coyote-god on the butt some more. Kick him right in the bhogies. See what happens, he'll probably like it. At worst he'll geas you to an interesting quest that may lead to a two-chapter epic. |
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Post by ryrmyrbyr on Jan 23, 2015 10:30:13 GMT
Coyote isn't quite a chaos god. He is a trickster god. He displays consistent personality traits and he seems to react well to the playful attitude Antimony shows him. I think he much prefers that to the formal/stuffy way court members would treat him. I rate the possibility of Coyote deciding to directly hurt Annie as very low. Indirect harm? Higher possibility.
Edit: Especially since Annie is Coyote's minion now. Don't forget that! Making Annie his minion was Coyote's "trick" a few chapters ago. Now how will he use that?
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Post by Epsilon Rose on Jan 23, 2015 11:12:42 GMT
Interesting. Annie's giving off a very, if not equal, same balpark feel to Coyote in this strip. They're both sort of filling the page and acting positioning themselves in loopy ways. The really big difference seems to be that Coyote is acting in a bigger panel and is looking in (or possibly across) at Annie. This seems to suggest that he's either accessing a large segment of reality or a different segment of reality.
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Post by Jelly Jellybean on Jan 23, 2015 11:56:13 GMT
Somehow I doubt coyote's benign questions about Kat. I always assumed that Annie is trying to keep Kat as far away from Coyote as possible. Not from any specific concerns, but just because she wants to keep her best friend away from the powerful and unpredictable trickster god. I think Annie has learned to tell half-truths too! It is true that Anja and Donald don't want Kat going into the forest ( or being near Coyote, and yes that is Eglamore not Donald in the fourth panel). So that was all Annie had to tell Coyote and she didn't need to reveal her own concerns. Also: No squiggles / greebling on the blue portion between Coyote's eyes. |
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Post by arf on Jan 23, 2015 12:52:50 GMT
Kat and Coyote haven't met. Interesting to see how Coyote would react to Kat's etheric* look.
Would he call her 'Fallen Angel Girl'?
*or is that Zimmeric?
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Post by Xan on Jan 23, 2015 13:05:29 GMT
I wonder if it's time for another visit by Coyote into the Court..
Or are such things diplomatically non-negotiable outside of crisis times?
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Post by Jelly Jellybean on Jan 23, 2015 14:19:49 GMT
Kat and Coyote haven't met. Interesting to see how Coyote would react to Kat's etheric* look. Would he call her 'Fallen Angel Girl'? *or is that Zimmeric? In the past Tom said that Annie has looked at Kat through the blinker stone and and only saw a non-etheric person. That may have changed, particularly after Torn Sea, but those answers implied that Coyote probably would just see a normal human. I also suspect that Annie would quickly see/notice if Kat started to display etheric colors. And she would tell Kat if she saw a change. |
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Post by jombra on Jan 23, 2015 14:28:17 GMT
I can't help but think that Kat would just see a coyote. Like how she sees the ROTD. She can't even hear him talk, it's just a coyote jumping around being a jabrony.
Not a serious theory, I just think it'd be funny if Kat went to the forest and was all "animals?? and trees?? what's the big deal?"
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Post by ctso74 on Jan 23, 2015 14:46:23 GMT
Somehow I doubt coyote's benign questions about Kat. I'd wager Coyote is always balancing curiosity and cunning calculations.(random alliteration!) It's just so hard to tell which is really motivating him, though. I can't help but think that Kat would just see a coyote. Like how she sees the ROTD. She can't even hear him talk, it's just a coyote jumping around being a jabrony. Not a serious theory, I just think it'd be funny if Kat went to the forest and was all "animals?? and trees?? what's the big deal?" That's a really interesting thought. Perhaps, it'd be more interesting to see things from Kat's POV rather than Coyote's. |
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Post by Covalent on Jan 23, 2015 15:38:03 GMT
Uhh, what happened to the gravity in this panel? Or is Antimony normally this gymnastic? lol Seems kind of painful to bend that way. :P
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Post by Deepbluediver on Jan 23, 2015 15:51:00 GMT
"dear" Not to be a stick in the mud, but I think that Annie is probably far too comfortable around Coyote. You'll remember it's gotten her in trouble in the past. She's grown up around these beings, and seems to take their power for granted, and forget the dangers. Coyote is powerful and dangerous but I think by this point it's well-established that he likes creatures who can surprise him and are willing to challenge him far more than those who simper and bow, like Yesgrin. Plus, Coyote hand-picked her to be the forest's medium- he's not going to mess that up without a good reason. *your definition of a good reason may differ from Coyote's |
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Post by Deepbluediver on Jan 23, 2015 15:52:13 GMT
Uhh, what happened to the gravity in this panel? Or is Antimony normally this gymnastic? lol Seems kind of painful to bend that way. :P What we're seeing is her etheric form- not her real body. Hence the cut on her cheek from Jeanne's ghost and Godiva-like hair. |
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Post by puntino on Jan 23, 2015 17:05:58 GMT
Guys, I think we may be overlooking the most troublesome part of this dialogue.
What will be the reaction of coyote if he asks what made Kat busy, and Antimony then answers that that's because she's been trying to create life from robots? I don't think a God who loves the forest would also love to know that the Court is meddling with things such as life itself.
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Post by Deepbluediver on Jan 23, 2015 17:19:19 GMT
Guys, I think we may be overlooking the most troublesome part of this dialogue. What will be the reaction of coyote if he asks what made Kat busy, and Antimony then answers that that's because she's been trying to create life from robots? I don't think a God who loves the forest would also love to know that the Court is meddling with things such as life itself. I was actually thinking about something similar, albeit from a different direction- that there are plot-related reasons why Kat can't/won't enter the forest or interact directly with etheric beings (other than Reynard). We know that Kat isn't exactly a normal human, especially from her interactions with the ROTD. We also know that Zimmy, who's very tapped into the ether, tends to freak out around her. I'm thinking that if/when Kat finally does meet up with Coyote we might end up with one of two reactions- either the good "I've never seen this before" one, or the bad "this is an abomination" one. |
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Post by Jelly Jellybean on Jan 23, 2015 17:26:09 GMT
Guys, I think we may be overlooking the most troublesome part of this dialogue. What will be the reaction of coyote if he asks what made Kat busy, and Antimony then answers that that's because she's been trying to create life from robots? I don't think a God who loves the forest would also love to know that the Court is meddling with things such as life itself. I don't think Annie (or Kat) are really aware of the robot religion. They don't see all that has been revealed to the readers (and they don't browse this forum, that I know of). So I think Annie might honestly say that Kat has an affinity for the robots and she's learning more about them. And Coyote may only hear "Kat is bleagh bleagh technobabble..." Maybe Coyote is curious about whether he can use Kat as leverage with Annie. Kat is also one of the few attachments Annie has with the Court, so maybe he wants to test the strength of that attachment. |
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Post by goldenknots on Jan 23, 2015 17:58:31 GMT
Guys, I think we may be overlooking the most troublesome part of this dialogue. What will be the reaction of coyote if he asks what made Kat busy, and Antimony then answers that that's because she's been trying to create life from robots? I don't think a God who loves the forest would also love to know that the Court is meddling with things such as life itself. I don't think Annie would be that indiscreet. She's been pretty close-mouthed about things before, no reason to think she might start babbling now. |
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Post by warrl on Jan 23, 2015 18:00:44 GMT
We also know that Zimmy, who's very tapped into the ether, Is she? Or is she tapped into something else entirely? As of last report, Zimmy and Annie see entirely different things when they look at Kat. I don't remember seeing what Annie sees when she looks at Zimmy etherically. |
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Post by Deepbluediver on Jan 23, 2015 18:10:45 GMT
We also know that Zimmy, who's very tapped into the ether, Is she? Or is she tapped into something else entirely? As of last report, Zimmy and Annie see entirely different things when they look at Kat. I don't remember seeing what Annie sees when she looks at Zimmy etherically. Ok, maybe I was somewhat mistaken. She can certainly effect the ether and through it the real world, as we saw in The Torn Sea. Regarding what she (Zimmy) sees, it might be something else though, or altered by a specific type of filter her abilities have. Coyote, however, is a god compared to Annie, Rey, and all the rest, so it's also entirely possible IMO that he has senses beyond those of other (lesser) beings. I admit that my theories contain quite a bit of speculation. |
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Post by Daedalus on Jan 23, 2015 18:25:54 GMT
Is she? Or is she tapped into something else entirely? As of last report, Zimmy and Annie see entirely different things when they look at Kat. I don't remember seeing what Annie sees when she looks at Zimmy etherically. Ok, maybe I was somewhat mistaken. She can certainly effect the ether and through it the real world, as we saw in The Torn Sea. Regarding what she (Zimmy) sees, it might be something else though, or altered by a specific type of filter her abilities have. Coyote, however, is a god compared to Annie, Rey, and all the rest, so it's also entirely possible IMO that he has senses beyond those of other (lesser) beings. I admit that my theories contain quite a bit of speculation. The current consensus, as far as I know, is that her power affects the ether and is derived from it (as is all magical power) but she does not see it in the same way that Annie does - instead she sees the future, or hallucinations that her power makes real, etc. But I am curious what Zimmy would see if she looked at Coyote. What will be the reaction of coyote if he asks what made Kat busy, and Antimony then answers that that's because she's been trying to create life from robots? I don't think a God who loves the forest would also love to know that the Court is meddling with things such as life itself. Personally I don't think he'd care. I mean, his response to the fact that the Court is manipulating the fabric of existence? Lulz! And I don't think he really loves the Forest. He loves having subjects and sycophants (wouldn't we all?), but I don't think he has any attachment in particular to anyone or anything there. Furthermore, I don't think Annie would tell him that: as friendly as the two are, she knows he's always up to something and that he's probably the cause of Yssy's psychotic break. But even if she did tell him, I sincerely doubt that he'd feel threatened. Instead, we should worry more if he gains a devious smile and seems to be plotting something evil with the information. Coyote isn't quite a chaos god. He is a trickster god. He displays consistent personality traits and he seems to react well to the playful attitude Antimony shows him. I think he much prefers that to the formal/stuffy way court members would treat him. I rate the possibility of Coyote deciding to directly hurt Annie as very low. Indirect harm? Higher possibility. Edit: Especially since Annie is Coyote's minion now. Don't forget that! Making Annie his minion was Coyote's "trick" a few chapters ago. Now how will he use that? He has plots, but I don't believe that he would find harming Annie funny without some secondary reason. He's not a sadist. That doesn't mean he's safe to be around in the long term, but the chances of him harming her after seemingly having some master plan revolve around her? Probably low. Why is this not already on the ISAO board? XD I would also totally use this as an avatar if I wasn't so attached to mine. I can't help but think that Kat would just see a coyote. Like how she sees the ROTD. She can't even hear him talk, it's just a coyote jumping around being a jabrony. ...okay, I admit, that would be hilarious. Even if she could see him, Coyote might intentionally make himself seem normal just to mess with them if Kat comes to visit. Especially since he's presumably watching currently. |
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Post by hp on Jan 23, 2015 19:10:28 GMT
IDK. While I agree with the "just for the lulz" motivation being likely for a trickster god, Coyote also exhales a "chessmaster" vibe, like every bit of information he shares and every action he takes have an objective with an agenda behind it.
Even if it turns out to be some lulz-guided agenda, he seems to be pushing some kind of big picture "Batman Gambit"
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