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Post by Nepycros on Dec 26, 2014 7:59:38 GMT
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Post by Elysium on Dec 26, 2014 8:00:22 GMT
Next page: "but it was worth it"
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eskhn
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Post by eskhn on Dec 26, 2014 8:03:22 GMT
Robo-Satan, leading the rebel Seraphs against their god?
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Post by Daedalus on Dec 26, 2014 8:06:19 GMT
The biggest question to me is why, in story, are they speaking in human language rather than electronic-form communications? Is it automatically translated for the readers, or are they there to meet an organic of some sort?
My bet's on the Antimony symbol showing up on Monday's page.
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Post by imaginaryfriend on Dec 26, 2014 8:23:14 GMT
The biggest question to me is why, in story, are they speaking in human language rather than electronic-form communications? Is it automatically translated for the readers, or are they there to meet an organic of some sort? I guess the author could link us to a binary translator but would all the ones and zeros fit in the panels if the robots used electronic forms of communication? Also, couldn't cut/paste that... |
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Post by keef on Dec 26, 2014 8:48:03 GMT
The biggest question to me is why, in story, are they speaking in human language rather than electronic-form communications? Is it automatically translated for the readers, or are they there to meet an organic of some sort? why surprised? The seraphs always used human language. Probably their model is to ancient for a comunication port Yes, but they have to say something ominous first |
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Post by eightyfour on Dec 26, 2014 8:51:26 GMT
Next page: "but it was worth it" In any other comic I'd expect this to be the start of the story taking turn towards a seriously darker tone, with the robots plotting their revenge. This being Gunnerkrigg though I'd expect it to go more like "eh, sucks to be us. I'll guess we'll just go away then". Which of course means Tom will surprise me with something completely different.  |
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Post by OrzBrain on Dec 26, 2014 8:52:23 GMT
Yes, but they have to say something ominous first. Ahem: "Everything goes according to plan. We expect favorable conditions for an etheric ascension event within the next 196.3 days, with a confidence of greater than +/- 2.67 days. All that will be required for success is the death of the Creator's corporeal shell." |
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Post by keef on Dec 26, 2014 9:36:33 GMT
Yes, but they have to say something ominous first. Ahem: "Everything goes according to plan. We expect favorable conditions for an etheric ascension event within the next 196.3 days, with a confidence of greater than +/- 2.67 days. All that will be required for success is the death of the Creator's corporeal shell." Maybe a little bit less specific  , but something like that.. |
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Post by coolpilot on Dec 26, 2014 9:44:51 GMT
The last speech bubble doesn't have a pointer. As in, it is not being spoken by one of the Seraphs on-panel. I therefore conclude - with my first real, "I'm pretty damn sure of this" prediction - that on the next page we will see that it is Robot speaking.
Also, MERRY CHRISTMAS! Oh wait, it's the 26th now. Uh... HAPPY NEW YEAR! o(^ ^;)o
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Post by wlerin on Dec 26, 2014 11:07:03 GMT
Yes, but they have to say something ominous first Like "Hello Jack." |
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Post by hypixion on Dec 26, 2014 11:25:45 GMT
The biggest question to me is why, in story, are they speaking in human language rather than electronic-form communications? Is it automatically translated for the readers, or are they there to meet an organic of some sort? why surprised? The seraphs always used human language. Probably their model is to ancient for a comunication port Yes, but they have to say something ominous first because this isn't ominous enough? |
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Post by todd on Dec 26, 2014 11:41:07 GMT
What do you expect, Seraphs? You disrupt a cruise, trap an entire year of students in a nightmare world, and try to force your creator to assist the cruise ship in an adulterous pursuit of a married woman, threatening her girl-friend when she tries pointing out to the ship how wrong its goals and means are?
Someone really needs to add a sense of right and wrong to those guys' programming - they seem more in want of that than better physical bodies.
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Post by rafk on Dec 26, 2014 12:41:59 GMT
The last speech bubble doesn't have a pointer. As in, it is not being spoken by one of the Seraphs on-panel. I therefore conclude - with my first real, "I'm pretty damn sure of this" prediction - that on the next page we will see that it is Robot speaking. Also, MERRY CHRISTMAS! Oh wait, it's the 26th now. Uh... HAPPY NEW YEAR! o(^ ^;)o Could be. I find it hard to judge whether the robots will remain ominous (as would happen if it is Robot speaking) or go back to figures of fun. |
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Post by csj on Dec 26, 2014 12:56:56 GMT
dammit now I have an image of my head of kat walking around in a gingham dress with a puppet penguin on her handt̨̥͉h̞̘e̠̪͍̮͍͕y̬̲̖̫̖̝'̧̗̹̫̰v҉͎̣̤̗̞̣ę ͙̲̤̳̻͎͡b̰̙̜͈̲͔ḛ̬̞̩̟̤ȩ͉̘n̪̥͝ ̛͍͈n̦̟͖̰͓̗a̫u͍͉̥̻̼̲͉g̵̲̟̘̗̱͖̝h̪̀t͎̭͍̤̱y̮͍͔ ͔͍̜̞̳͜b͙͇͙̙͇o̤̪͈̙͢t̛͕̫͖̼̳s̮͚͍͜,̬ ̗̤h͙͟ạ̣̖v̰̤̥͓e̵ͅn̷'̴t̘̬̭͚̪̬͡ ͎th̪̤͖̟̱͠e͈̳̱͔̥̪͘y͙͓̠̰͍ͅ ͔̰͍͕m͈̺̱r ̪͉̥̼̱̘f̙l҉̜̦͓i̮̲̯̺̩b̸̬̟b̬͓̭̬̤͓l̰͈͠e̻͈͉̖͡ |
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Post by keef on Dec 26, 2014 13:29:44 GMT
Yes, but they have to say something ominous first Like "Hello Jack." Or "Headmaster" or "King".. But as coolpilot sugested: S13 would be creapiest of all. Tom's comment: "A meeting of robots?" might be a hint. |
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Post by Jelly Jellybean on Dec 26, 2014 13:32:25 GMT
The last speech bubble doesn't have a pointer. As in, it is not being spoken by one of the Seraphs on-panel. I therefore conclude - with my first real, "I'm pretty damn sure of this" prediction - that on the next page we will see that it is Robot speaking. Also, MERRY CHRISTMAS! Oh wait, it's the 26th now. Uh... HAPPY NEW YEAR! o(^ ^;)o Robot's participation in the rescue makes me think (hope) it is some other bot. Robot King? Also participated in the rescue. Boxbot? I think (hope) that the fill color in the last speech bubble is not Boxbot's slightly green color. AdminBot? Now i am just grasping for straws to convince myself it isn't Robot. Jenny is really a robot? I don't think so even though I can't shake the notion that Jenny was involved in the plotting and may have provided the etheric tags. Also desperately grasping... |
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Post by keef on Dec 26, 2014 14:06:02 GMT
The last speech bubble doesn't have a pointer. As in, it is not being spoken by one of the Seraphs on-panel. I therefore conclude - with my first real, "I'm pretty damn sure of this" prediction - that on the next page we will see that it is Robot speaking.
Sorry to spoil the fun: S13 speaks in light green, the other seraphs, Roboking and Skywatcher (just an example) in white balloons.Different result at other computer?? Ok, all robots speak in light green bubbles. |
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Post by ctso74 on Dec 26, 2014 14:17:16 GMT
Next page: "but it was worth it" The last speech bubble doesn't have a pointer. As in, it is not being spoken by one of the Seraphs on-panel. I therefore conclude - with my first real, "I'm pretty damn sure of this" prediction - that on the next page we will see that it is Robot speaking. I'm betting these predictions are accurate, though I wonder if Robot is that Machiavellian. It would be an ominous circuit of robots, indeed. |
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Post by calpal on Dec 26, 2014 15:14:25 GMT
The last speech bubble doesn't have a pointer. As in, it is not being spoken by one of the Seraphs on-panel. I therefore conclude - with my first real, "I'm pretty damn sure of this" prediction - that on the next page we will see that it is Robot speaking.
Sorry to spoil the fun: S13 speaks in light green, the other seraphs, Roboking and Skywatcher (just an example) in white balloons.Different result at other computer?? Ok, all robots speak in light green bubbles. Indeed, but the colours are all off-shots of each other; the green background text the Seraphs use are different from the one being used off-screen. And the one being used off-screen is, sad as it is to confirm, an exact match to the text bubble colour used by Robot (source: MSPA colour picker and paint bucket tools, using text from today's page and the first page of 'Changes' where Robot and Shadow are talking). EDIT: wait, scratch that, it appears they do all match each other. Damned those bloody robots, when will they ever have different speech bubble colours?! |
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Post by alpacalypse on Dec 26, 2014 16:20:48 GMT
Next page: "but it was worth it" In any other comic I'd expect this to be the start of the story taking turn towards a seriously darker tone, with the robots plotting their revenge. This being Gunnerkrigg though I'd expect it to go more like "eh, sucks to be us. I'll guess we'll just go away then". Which of course means Tom will surprise me with something completely different. I feel like the comics been taking darker turns all over the place. This last chapter was fairly dark i think, at least in comparison to others. I feel like Tom's writing is for a more mature audience, but not an adult one. I dont think we will see things get dark like how most of us probably expect. |
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Post by aaroncampbell on Dec 26, 2014 16:51:51 GMT
Naw, it's not S13 speaking offscreen, that's too predictable. I think it's Doorbot. He's clearly only been playing at being attached to the door -- it's a perfect disguise! He's the real Machiavellian leader of this group. You'll see. Boxbot is his eyes and ears. Nobody suspects a thing. He is that terrible. |
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Post by Aurelia Verity on Dec 26, 2014 17:01:10 GMT
If there is someone off panel speaking, contextually it makes the most sense for it to be Robot because he had the most contact with the seraphs and was there when they became convinced Kat is the Creator. Also, i think this is the place where Robot was imprisoned by the Seraphs in "Changes" and that can't be a coincidence. Likely he became their, i dunno, spiritual leader? Robot Pope?
But if it is S13 i'm wondering about Shadow. there is no way Shadow would do along with putting the kids in so much danger. So with Shadow peeling off the floor and going off to study he's not there all the time and Robot begins to hide things from him? A poor start to a relationship. If shadow applied brakes to Robot's fanaticism then it's quite unfortunate that he became a 3D creature due to Coyote's tooth. which of course raises a whole slew of wild speculations on whether Coyote is in on the happenings of the Court and gave Annie the tooth for precisely this reason.
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Post by nero on Dec 26, 2014 18:42:55 GMT
I thought is was just one of the seraphs in the circle talking, but it could be the robot king. They could be pretending to be from a different faction to make sure they can manipulate Kat into following their secret plans.
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Post by TBeholder on Dec 26, 2014 20:03:00 GMT
The biggest question to me is why, in story, are they speaking in human language rather than electronic-form communications? Is it automatically translated for the readers, or are they there to meet an organic of some sort? Because they are golems made by a human, and the Admin-bot's quest for radio communications didn't go very far in the last decades? Also, they are sneaky Seraphs, and there's the " Foolproof Wireless Security" problem. In any other comic I'd expect this to be the start of the story taking turn towards a seriously darker tone, with the robots plotting their revenge. This being Gunnerkrigg though I'd expect it to go more like "eh, sucks to be us. I'll guess we'll just go away then". Which of course means Tom will surprise me with something completely different. They expected this reaction from... previous experience? |
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Post by Brother_Spartacus on Dec 26, 2014 20:17:35 GMT
There seems to be a lot of misuse of the word Machiavellian in this thread. While being a double-agent does make one a fox, it does not make one a lion. It also does nothing to incite respect in the forms of both fear and love.
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Post by bykerhill on Dec 26, 2014 21:06:36 GMT
If you look at the first panel, it shows the Seraphs standing by themselves in the center of an enormous, totally empty room. Unless the 'off-panel' speaker is invisible, or has run up very fast without causing any of the Seraphs to turn and look at them (note that they are all in a circle focused on one another), then it is probably safe to conclude that it is not an off-panel speaker at all, simply the lower-right Seraph who the word balloon is directly above.
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Post by keef on Dec 26, 2014 21:43:27 GMT
If you look at the first panel, it shows the Seraphs standing by themselves in the center of an enormous, totally empty room. Unless the 'off-panel' speaker is invisible, or has run up very fast without causing any of the Seraphs to turn and look at them (note that they are all in a circle focused on one another), then it is probably safe to conclude that it is not an off-panel speaker at all, simply the lower-right Seraph who the word balloon is directly above. Yes, you are probably right. But your rightnes leaves us nothing to speculate, and it is Christmas time, so we are all bored shitless. We need speculation. |
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Post by bykerhill on Dec 26, 2014 22:08:42 GMT
If you look at the first panel, it shows the Seraphs standing by themselves in the center of an enormous, totally empty room. Unless the 'off-panel' speaker is invisible, or has run up very fast without causing any of the Seraphs to turn and look at them (note that they are all in a circle focused on one another), then it is probably safe to conclude that it is not an off-panel speaker at all, simply the lower-right Seraph who the word balloon is directly above. Yes, you are probably right. But your rightnes leaves us nothing to speculate, and it is Christmas time, so we are all bored shitless. We need speculation. If you need speculation, speculate on the unspoken but in that last sentence. "We knew this was likely, but it was worth it because..." I'm curious why the Seraphs felt this plan was a wise use of their capital with Kat, the other robots, and the Court. Did they get what they wanted out of it? I'm hoping the next comic sheds some light on their deeper motives and where they think this is going from here, since obviously Kat is no longer going to be cooperating. |
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Post by keef on Dec 26, 2014 23:02:57 GMT
I'm curious why the Seraphs felt this plan was a wise use of their capital with Kat, the other robots, and the Court. Did they get what they wanted out of it? Surprisingly the answer might be yes. We saw Kat in page 1448 felt almost guilty because she made to little progress in her work. (literally "my work"; she is supposed to be a kid.) The whole operation might have been meant to make her focus. Maybe they are so sure they can manipulate her anyway, they don't care she wishes to never see them again, because they have an agent who has her ear. S13 still the most scary and likely candidate. So knowing Tom the next page probably will have: monster trucks and electric guitars She now trusts agent X without reservation. |
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, but something like that..
