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Post by zimmyzims on Dec 8, 2014 8:01:51 GMT
Does that count for mercy killing?Supposing that that's what Kat's doing, killing the whaleship. I might be wrong. Anyway, technically, it is not euthanasia, but I can see a case for it not being an outright murder. Good point, zirka, looking at Kat's face it didn't occur to me that she might actually be trying to save the whale. But now that I look at it, it could also be her stubborn determinacy to bring the whale to life despite all.
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Post by Chancellor on Dec 8, 2014 8:03:55 GMT
I'm not convinced that the lamp has the juice necessary for doing in something that big. But if so, she did that stone cold.
Maybe it's still mechanical enough that it'll be roused enough to answer for its actions before Lindsey herself.
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Post by zirka on Dec 8, 2014 8:04:20 GMT
Uh. I'm not sure what Kat is trying to do here. Going by the vague rules of reality in this world, an electric shock can either kill the whale creature, or bring it to full life. So I see the next page being uncomfortable to look at either way.
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Post by Fishy on Dec 8, 2014 8:05:45 GMT
Well, so much for my idea of hacking. I guess... this works too?
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Post by Chancellor on Dec 8, 2014 8:07:19 GMT
Well, so much for my idea of hacking. I guess... this works too? She's actually reversing the polarity. |
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Post by zbeeblebrox on Dec 8, 2014 8:18:43 GMT
Puttin' the poor whale ship out of its misery..
I'd feel sorry for the guy, but if the ship's plan had worked, everyone would've wound up adrift at sea.
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Post by fwip on Dec 8, 2014 8:19:27 GMT
Title should have been "ZZZTT".
I think that it will kill the whale part of the ship but leave the rest intact. No, wait, I think that the answer both advances the story in ways we haven't thought of and is completely consistent with the amount of electricity necessary to run a lamp.
Although, I suppose it's possible that it might be enough electricity to provide a nasty shock because the ship is grounded, presumably forming a complete circuit. see my status.
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Post by zarathustra30 on Dec 8, 2014 8:30:38 GMT
Not about the comic, but something I noticed in the Chapter 18 commentary. Is that Jenny in panel 3?...or was that mentioned before... |
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Post by fwip on Dec 8, 2014 8:32:21 GMT
That was mentioned before, and then someone brought it up again before you. It may have been, I think we concluded it probably wasn't.
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Post by davidm on Dec 8, 2014 8:52:10 GMT
Does that count for mercy killing?Supposing that that's what Kat's doing, killing the whaleship. I might be wrong. Anyway, technically, it is not euthanasia, but I can see a case for it not being an outright murder. Good point, zirka, looking at Kat's face it didn't occur to me that she might actually be trying to save the whale. But now that I look at it, it could also be her stubborn determinacy to bring the whale to life despite all. Wrong on both counts, that little bit of shock is not big enough to either kill or bring to life such a large creature. However an electric shock on pleasure centres of brain can cause intense addictive feeling of pleasure more powerful than drugs. Clearly Kat is extremely jealous and trying to seduce the whale. (For more information on this subject, please read "the Boxbot Guide to Love", guaranteed to be terrible!) |
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Post by keef on Dec 8, 2014 9:01:41 GMT
Where is the 'don't try this at home' warning?
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Post by cu on Dec 8, 2014 9:26:11 GMT
Love Annie's expression in panel 1. :-D
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Post by Lightice on Dec 8, 2014 10:23:41 GMT
All I can think of is how horribly unsafe that lamp is...
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Post by Purgatorius on Dec 8, 2014 11:01:07 GMT
Although, I suppose it's possible that it might be enough electricity to provide a nasty shock because the ship is grounded, presumably forming a complete circuit. Or form a short circuit, since the electricity comes from a generator aboard the ship. |
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Post by KartoffelnMcNugget on Dec 8, 2014 11:15:34 GMT
Does that count for mercy killing?Supposing that that's what Kat's doing, killing the whaleship. I might be wrong. Anyway, technically, it is not euthanasia, but I can see a case for it not being an outright murder. Good point, zirka, looking at Kat's face it didn't occur to me that she might actually be trying to save the whale. But now that I look at it, it could also be her stubborn determinacy to bring the whale to life despite all. Wrong on both counts, that little bit of shock is not big enough to either kill or bring to life such a large creature. However an electric shock on pleasure centres of brain can cause intense addictive feeling of pleasure more powerful than drugs. Clearly Kat is extremely jealous and trying to seduce the whale. (For more information on this subject, please read "the Boxbot Guide to Love", guaranteed to be terrible!) Well, rebember what happened the last time she apllied an electrical current to a hand-made limb |
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Post by hnau on Dec 8, 2014 11:23:21 GMT
Wrong on both counts, that little bit of shock is not big enough to either kill or bring to life such a large creature. However an electric shock on pleasure centres of brain can cause intense addictive feeling of pleasure more powerful than drugs. Clearly Kat is extremely jealous and trying to seduce the whale. (For more information on this subject, please read "the Boxbot Guide to Love", guaranteed to be terrible!) Well, rebember what happened the last time she apllied an electrical current to a hand-made limb It was worth it. |
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Post by keef on Dec 8, 2014 11:36:31 GMT
Well, rebember what happened the last time she apllied an electrical current to a hand-made limb It was worth it. It's a good thing the windows are already open.. |
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Post by panecillo on Dec 8, 2014 11:43:47 GMT
I was hoping that this chapter's contribution would be Kat's interest in doing this again in her lab, which would lead to discussions between Kat and Zimmy, who is afraid of her.
It seems not.
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Post by kralex on Dec 8, 2014 11:46:29 GMT
The way she applies the wire, phase and ground are right next to each other, so the current will travel only through a short distance of skin of the creature (or whatever it has, if not skin). It would be painful, but not dangerous. A nerd girl like Kat ought to know that.
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Post by zimmyzims on Dec 8, 2014 12:51:36 GMT
Where is the 'don't try this at home' warning? I think its rightful place would have been somewhere around when Kat started to mess with Zimmy-ether and turn a ship full of school kids in to a whale. |
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Post by philman on Dec 8, 2014 13:08:22 GMT
Well this is getting a little dark.
Given Kat is euthanising the half formed whale-boat now, I wonder what implications this will have for her future work. Will she scrap it all? Vow to continue but only make purer forms of living robotics? Prevent the conversion of robots from one form to another, but allow the creation of new living robots?
This chapter has stirred up so much... I love it.
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Post by foresterr on Dec 8, 2014 13:24:05 GMT
Eh, that ain't exactly lightning, but my money is on "IT'S ALIVE! ALIIIIIIIIVE!" the next page, anyway.
If Kat's trying to euthanize that thing, then boy did she change since "Give and take".
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Post by phyzome on Dec 8, 2014 13:30:27 GMT
All I can think of is how horribly unsafe that lamp is... Seriously. Those wires should be continuous all the way up to the socket and then use this special knot to make sure they can't be pulled out:  Instead, pulling on the wire produces a "suicide cord", which should have a taser-like effect. Or, if the ground (or neutral) wire doesn't touch, actually electrocute the probably-grounded whale-beast. |
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Post by TBeholder on Dec 8, 2014 13:36:29 GMT
Uh. I'm not sure what Kat is trying to do here. Going by the vague rules of reality in this world, an electric shock can either kill the whale creature, or bring it to full life. So I see the next page being uncomfortable to look at either way. I doubt she knows what she's doing. It's mostly based on a muscle sample, and a single knee-jerk convulsion of a thing this huge is more than enough to slam her through the wall and pancake all over the next one. Before it overloads and explodes in tons of acrid smoke just like the previous sample. Though depending on parameters of the material, it may be just a point burn or tickle for this thing. No, wait. I know what Kat's doing! An experiment she planned for this sample from the very start, just without proper hardware.  Well, so much for my idea of hacking. I guess... this works too? She's actually reversing the polarity. Yup. A hundred times per second. Where is the 'don't try this at home' warning? If several tons of synthetic muscle stuck together as a misshapen abomination somehow managed to crawl into your home, trying to electrocute it is not necessarily the worst course of action at this point. Though probably not the best, either (see above). All I can think of is how horribly unsafe that lamp is... Non-naval "luxury" stuff on the dance deck may (and is likely to) be all plugged in a separate power line, so that it could be shut off if anything goes wrong, automatically and/or by the ship's golem-core... If only because power lines of a ship are unlikely to be "110|220V 50|60Hz" compatible in the first place. Normally those are fairly low-current, provided for passengers' shavers (and now laptops), while internal lines are something else entirely. For that matter, Kat's action is most likely to simply trip a circuit breaker (either by current or by leakage). She's just too bewildered to remember about such things right now.  |
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Post by freeman on Dec 8, 2014 13:44:41 GMT
The way she applies the wire, phase and ground are right next to each other, so the current will travel only through a short distance of skin of the creature (or whatever it has, if not skin). It would be painful, but not dangerous. A nerd girl like Kat ought to know that. True, plus I think ships are required to have super sensitive RCD's for all unessential systems, because constant movement and corrosive environment. I wouldn't count on that though; people have died from such a tiny contact. Plus the jolt might be just enough to kill the ship's computer if it still resided inside the whale skull. Though, Kat could be smarter than the either of us and only use the brown wire. Are British light fixtures btw usually grounded and have the third wire as Tom has drawn or is it so he doesn't actually know absolutely everything? In the mainland we would happily use those CEE 7/16 plugs for that sort of fixtures with non-metallic body. You crazy Brits with your ring circuits and all the cumulative problems they cause... |
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Post by ctso74 on Dec 8, 2014 14:40:55 GMT
I'm guessing she's trying to wake it up. Just like mom. Your moms woke you up that way too, right?... Right?
The circuit breaker would have to hold long enough to give a solid shock. If it doesn't, a kick to the head might be more effective.
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Post by machival on Dec 8, 2014 15:01:27 GMT
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Post by fish on Dec 8, 2014 15:59:28 GMT
If Kat's trying to euthanize that thing, then boy did she change since "Give and take". Yeah, she seemed pretty averse to takiing the life of a robot. The whale looks quite dead on this page. I think she's reanimating it so it can be held responsible for its actions (alongside the seraphs). Now that the spoiler-page is out of the way I can finally go back to not knowing where the plot is going, haha. |
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Post by Freedomfiend on Dec 8, 2014 16:11:54 GMT
Oh no! Not 110 volts! It's his one weakness!
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Post by atteSmythe on Dec 8, 2014 16:19:31 GMT
Killing / euthanizing? I think she's trying to jumpstart its heart.
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