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Post by Gotolei on Nov 3, 2014 8:02:27 GMT
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Post by smjjames on Nov 3, 2014 8:05:38 GMT
I hope they have radio communication with those still up on the surface because they don't want to collapse it too soon.
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Post by mangotango on Nov 3, 2014 8:06:47 GMT
Oh, so they are currently destroying the ether siphons right now? Either a third party is here, or they've found Zimmy already and decided that it was okay to destroy them now, which is too quick, even for me !!
If there were a third party, I'm guessing it's the Court now...? Maybe? Don't know at all to be honest.
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Post by alexsl on Nov 3, 2014 8:09:02 GMT
I am confused - didn't they want to get Zimmy first? (Although I am also confused about why exactly they would need to get Zimmy first.)
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Post by Fishy on Nov 3, 2014 8:13:10 GMT
I think they're just lowering the siphon count to one so that they can finish things nice and neatly later.
These robots don't seem to realize that they could just tell each other these things in 1/25ths of a second if they had a communications port installed. Sloppy.
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Post by imaginaryfriend on Nov 3, 2014 8:14:11 GMT
I guess the robots are destroying siphons while the kids rescue Zeta... and that BLOOM is just the sound that a siphon makes when it blows up. So the previous BLOOMs may have been simultaneous or not.
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Post by mangotango on Nov 3, 2014 8:15:24 GMT
(Although I am also confused about why exactly they would need to get Zimmy first.) Well first of all there can be a chance that they don't need to destroy the siphons in the first place, and simply reuniting her with Gamma might do the trick. Also !! It's pretty obvious but Zimmy is in huge danger right now and if they don't find her now they might never for a long time. Destroying the siphons can also affect her mind and everyone else's in Zimmyngham also !! Considering from what we saw two pages ago Zimmy is most likely being held up and kept somewhere, and may be even contained for ether energy?? We'll know when it comes, hopefully !! so tl;dr It's for basic safety measures, for both the students and Zimmy. |
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Post by smurfton on Nov 3, 2014 8:16:15 GMT
Maybe this takes place slightly in the past?
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Post by arf on Nov 3, 2014 8:23:51 GMT
I would say that the Ship was reacting to the first siphon being destroyed. This is another, which is interesting, since Jack was last seen telling Annie to wait. What gives? Another diversion a la 'Residential'?
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Post by Gotolei on Nov 3, 2014 8:28:17 GMT
It does seem possible that not all the robots are on board, knowing what the current plan is.. I could see one of them going "This is a good idea" and destroying a siphon or two if it got the chance.
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Post by keef on Nov 3, 2014 8:53:16 GMT
So the previous BLOOMs may have been simultaneous or not. Two left? Beautiful noise  |
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Post by imaginaryfriend on Nov 3, 2014 9:05:35 GMT
So the previous BLOOMs may have been simultaneous or not. Two left? Probably. Not sure if this is the same squad of Seraphs that were with Kat or not; we know there are more than three there so it doesn't have to be the same ones. We do know there's at least one siphon left [edit] unless Zeta pops back next comic [/edit]. |
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Post by TBeholder on Nov 3, 2014 9:37:04 GMT
I think they're just lowering the siphon count to one so that they can finish things nice and neatly later. These robots don't seem to realize that they could just tell each other these things in 1/25ths of a second if they had a communications port installed. Sloppy. " Wireless security". Those are Seraphs, after all. !! It's pretty obvious but Zimmy is in huge danger right now and if they don't find her now they might never for a long time. Destroying the siphons can also affect her mind and everyone else's in Zimmyngham also !! I cannot be the only one here who plays *Dwarf Fortress*... |
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Post by Lightice on Nov 3, 2014 11:45:25 GMT
They just said a couple of pages ago that they're not going to destroy the siphons right away. Is there some other party destroying them? Lindsey, perhaps?
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Post by Jelly Jellybean on Nov 3, 2014 12:01:43 GMT
Oh, so they are currently destroying the ether siphons right now? Either a third party is here, or they've found Zimmy already and decided that it was okay to destroy them now, which is too quick, even for me !! If there were a third party, I'm guessing it's the Court now...? Maybe? Don't know at all to be honest. I'm speculating that Lindsey has returned and is destroying the siphons, not the robots or the Court. Mostly because Lindsey has been suspiciously absent and I am expecting her to reappear in some dramatic fashion. All "That is quite enough" in their faces. I also have more confidence that Lindsey would know how to end the etheric distortion without endangering the students. Edit: Ninja'd by Lightice ! Not that it is very hard given how long it takes for me to write, edit, reference, edit, and post. |
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Post by todd on Nov 3, 2014 12:06:25 GMT
Maybe we'd better just wait and see what happens in the next few pages; Tom will probably have some explanation for the seeming self-contradiction.
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Post by Jelly Jellybean on Nov 3, 2014 12:54:45 GMT
Can't, wait.. Must, speculate. Must, cause, inconvenience! The BLOOOM here www.gunnerkrigg.com/?p=1418 and here www.gunnerkrigg.com/?p=1419 seem to be the same event (even though the is one less "O" on page 1419). The BLOOM here www.gunnerkrigg.com/?p=1426 may or may not be the same event in the earlier pages. When DistortedShipBot says "the students and robots have banded together", it reads like the BLOOM is from the first siphon going down and the robots entering the distortion. But then DistortedShipBot says "my fingers cannot stop them", and the time it took for the students to defeat the robot crew implies that the BLOOM on this page may be from a different siphon. The flight of the DistortedSeraphs imply that the BLOOM here www.gunnerkrigg.com/?p=1427 is also a separate event. These might be different DistortedSeraphs, but I take at face value that they are the same. We saw four siphons here www.gunnerkrigg.com/?p=1400 . The Seraphs say they've established a grid, which implies four siphons in a rectangular pattern. We saw two siphons here www.gunnerkrigg.com/?p=1417 but the shape of the distortion implies that there are at least two more siphons outside the third frame. After the first siphon was destroyed, we can see two siphons here www.gunnerkrigg.com/?p=1423, but once again, the shape of the distortion implies that there is at least one more, maybe two more siphons outside the fourth frame. So there were at least four siphons, maybe five, and it appears that at least two, maybe three, have been destroyed. It doesn't seem like there is anything outside the etheric distortion that will stop whoever is out there from destroying more siphons and collapsing the distortion. Unless the DistortedSeraphs are able to fly out of the distortion, which will by time for the students to reunite Gamma and Zimmy. |
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Post by keef on Nov 3, 2014 15:10:32 GMT
They just said a couple of pages ago that they're not going to destroy the siphons right away. Is there some other party destroying them? Lindsey, perhaps? That would explain a lot. But then; why did she wait that long? Can't, wait.. Must, speculate. Must, cause, inconvenience! So there were at least four siphons, maybe five, and it appears that at least two, maybe three, have been destroyed. It doesn't seem like there is anything outside the etheric distortion that will stop whoever is out there from destroying more siphons and collapsing the distortion. Unless the DistortedSeraphs are able to fly out of the distortion, which will by time for the students to reunite Gamma and Zimmy. I'm changing my vote; I think there is one syphon left. I thought we started with five, but:  |
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Post by imaginaryfriend on Nov 3, 2014 15:34:05 GMT
They just said a couple of pages ago that they're not going to destroy the siphons right away. Is there some other party destroying them? Lindsey, perhaps? They spotted Zeta in/as a building maybe four blocks away. Tough to say how much time has passed by this current page but that's not very far. And yeah, Lindsey might be destroying them. ...I thought we started with five, but... To make it more complicated the answer could be zero. That's why I changed my last post. As long as Zeta and Gamma are apart the distortion could remain even if no siphons are left, so even if the robots aren't destroying buoys Lindsay might be, or they might be chain-reacting or something. But I'm pretty sure about my last answer. |
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Post by aaroncampbell on Nov 3, 2014 16:01:22 GMT
They just said a couple of pages ago that they're not going to destroy the siphons right away. Is there some other party destroying them? Lindsey, perhaps? They spotted Zeta in/as a building maybe four blocks away. Tough to say how much time has passed by this current page but that's not very far. And yeah, Lindsey might be destroying them. ...I thought we started with five, but... To make it more complicated the answer could be zero. That's why I changed my last post. As long as Zeta and Gamma are apart the distortion could remain even if no siphons are left, so even if the robots aren't destroying buoys Lindsay might be, or they might be chain-reacting or something. But I'm pretty sure about my last answer. The most we ever see is 4 siphons, on this page. But I don't know about Zimmy maintaining that level of distortion without them. The whole point is that those siphons are removing the etheric energy from the water. If it's there, it can "cool her off" a bit, like the rain does. The robots may not be bright with regard to moral consequences &c., but one thing they are good at is science. We all agree that Kat is wicked smart but she couldn't figure out a way to make her robot flesh plan work; the robots did. So if the robots say the siphons are necessary to maintain the distortion, then I'd be taking that very seriously. They may very well know more about Zimmy's capabilities than Zimmy does; look at that nasty little trick they pulled with the paper bits. What other knowledge do they have from the Court's files? |
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Post by Daedalus on Nov 3, 2014 16:17:55 GMT
These robots don't seem to realize that they could just tell each other these things in 1/25ths of a second if they had a communications port installed. Sloppy. Ah, but you see, the readers don't have a communication port installed  |
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Post by keef on Nov 3, 2014 17:26:07 GMT
These robots don't seem to realize that they could just tell each other these things in 1/25ths of a second if they had a communications port installed. Sloppy. Ah, but you see, the readers don't have a communication port installed  Wouldn't help here of course.. |
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Post by Jelly Jellybean on Nov 3, 2014 21:28:22 GMT
I'm changing my vote; I think there is one syphon left. I thought we started with five, but How does Jack know there are four siphons? They could only see at most two through the porthole. Seems suspicious. |
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Post by Jelly Jellybean on Nov 3, 2014 21:36:32 GMT
Ah, but you see, the readers don't have a communication port installed Wouldn't help here of course.. I know I get the message really quickly when someone's boot connects with my aft port. : P |
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Post by todd on Nov 3, 2014 23:06:59 GMT
They may very well know more about Zimmy's capabilities than Zimmy does; look at that nasty little trick they pulled with the paper bits. Though would they be so keen on carrying out this experiment if they realized how dangerous Zimmy's abilities are, given that they'd have to be at Ground Zero? It wouldn't do the ship any good to be made flesh if it was killed or warped into an insane monstrosity before it could go after Lindsey in its new body. (The Seraphs, on the other hand, might be fanatical enough to jeopardize themselves for the Cause.) |
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Post by todd on Nov 3, 2014 23:14:27 GMT
I'm changing my vote; I think there is one syphon left. I thought we started with five, but How does Jack know there are four siphons? They could only see at most two through the porthole. Seems suspicious. Hadn't noticed that, but you're right - and it does fit with a few other such features about Jack I've mentioned before (though if he was behind this, why help Annie call on Reynardine for help? Unless it's a way of removing suspicion from hmself. And just possibly, planning to make it look again as if Reynardine was the culprit when the Court shows up - though I doubt he'd try the same framing scheme twice.). Despite my earlier proposal to wait for the next few pages before speculating why Annie and Co. have apparently changed their plans off-stage, there's one possibility; if some of them attack the syphons while others go to the tower to rescue Zimmy, it would force the Seraphs to split up, some to protect the syphons, others to thwart the move on the tower. Then they wouldn't have to face the full Seraph force at once. |
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Post by shadowhunter on Nov 3, 2014 23:22:44 GMT
How does Jack know there are four siphons? They could only see at most two through the porthole. Seems suspicious. Hadn't noticed that, but you're right - and it does fit with a few other such features about Jack I've mentioned before (though if he was behind this, why help Annie call on Reynardine for help? Unless it's a way of removing suspicion from hmself. And just possibly, planning to make it look again as if Reynardine was the culprit when the Court shows up - though I doubt he'd try the same framing scheme twice.). Despite my earlier proposal to wait for the next few pages before speculating why Annie and Co. have apparently changed their plans off-stage, there's one possibility; if some of them attack the syphons while others go to the tower to rescue Zimmy, it would force the Seraphs to split up, some to protect the syphons, others to thwart the move on the tower. Then they wouldn't have to face the full Seraph force at once. Am I missing something here? Renard told him so. Jack is the one asking how many there were. Is this a joke flying over my head?  On the subject of flying, I love how the bird things look like aeroplanes in the first panel. I have no idea why, but I just find that so satisfying. |
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Post by ctso74 on Nov 3, 2014 23:44:59 GMT
They just said a couple of pages ago that they're not going to destroy the siphons right away. Is there some other party destroying them? Lindsey, perhaps? That would explain a lot. But then; why did she wait that long? I just had a thought. We can be sure as chaperone, Lindsey is aware of Zimmy's nature. Plus, being an etheric sea creature, she might be perfect to collect ether rich water, which Zimmy needs to cool down. That might explain her absence till now. She might break the siphons, causing Zimmy to reach a dangerous boiling pressure, and send a shower of ether rain down on everyone with a rainbow producing jump. |
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Post by todd on Nov 4, 2014 0:16:03 GMT
Good point - I think we'd misremembered that part. |
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Post by mangotango on Nov 4, 2014 0:39:33 GMT
I've always thought that Lindsey would be in the distortion with the ship and the students and everyone, as she has been swimming closely near them, but I guess she can be the one destroying the siphons!
If that's the case, that also brings up the question on how long the gap to enter Zimmyngham lasts when a siphon is destroyed (another question may also be how big the gap is)
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Wouldn't help here of course..
