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Post by zimmyzims on Sept 29, 2014 7:00:31 GMT
Rey to the rescue!However, I am a bit disappointed with the politeness of the seeking spell. because now we won't know whether hyacinths are lethargic this season as well. Edit: By the way, as far as I know, nobody, by which I mean no one on this forum, called that Annie would call THE ROBOT KING to the resque! Oh how do I grief all the lost cookies and internets... not very much, to be honest.
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Post by sapientcoffee on Sept 29, 2014 7:01:19 GMT
ROBOTS VS ROBOTS
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Post by fwip on Sept 29, 2014 7:01:57 GMT
That was fast.
So, it would appear that Annie is not going through official channels, but instead keeping this under wraps. It also appears that the Cult of Kat is going to end up at odds with the Seraphs.
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Post by arf on Sept 29, 2014 7:03:03 GMT
Annie has a weird sense of perspective. (and *really* doesn't trust the Court)
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Post by Ashley Y on Sept 29, 2014 7:04:42 GMT
The angriest face!
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Post by arf on Sept 29, 2014 7:04:54 GMT
Also: Seraphists vs Sharpists: another schism in the works
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Post by Nepycros on Sept 29, 2014 7:04:58 GMT
Annie has a weird sense of perspective. (and *really* doesn't trust the Court) If Antimony's not available, they might see this as an opportunity to seize Reynardine. |
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Post by asyetunnamed on Sept 29, 2014 7:05:08 GMT
Did anyone actually think that the Robot King would be the one to help? And is that the "angriest face" on the King?
I am loving the library of books that Rey has acquired
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Post by omnimedialevaeum on Sept 29, 2014 7:05:10 GMT
It is kind of funny how we all assumed that all of the robots were involved in the cruise ship incident and that Robot was on their side. Perhaps this whole occurrence will, once everything is resolved, just be written off as the actions of a renegade few (the ship and the Seraphs) with no long term repercussions on the role of robots within the court.
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Post by Gotolei on Sept 29, 2014 7:05:17 GMT
Roboking, shameless puns.. this chapter is just gonna keep escalating isn't it. also please tell me i wasn't the only one imagining epic metal gear solid music or something over the last panel |
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Post by Señor Goose on Sept 29, 2014 7:07:48 GMT
Uh Oh, that looks like it might be the Angiest Face. This chapter and/or the next one are gonna involve some serious business. Hold onto your butts.
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Post by m0rtimer on Sept 29, 2014 7:14:50 GMT
Welp, fecal matter is about to accelerate into the spinning blade contraption at rapid velocity.
I almost dare say we might be looking at a whole second chapter here...
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Post by zarathustra30 on Sept 29, 2014 7:23:00 GMT
AHA!! I finally have an avatar! The angriest face!
(does anybody know how to remove the textbox?)
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Post by Toloc on Sept 29, 2014 7:23:38 GMT
Kat mentioned at the beginning of the cruise that she has never seen robots like those on that boat (link). They might have formed their own independent, heretical Kat cult in the mean time (they're uniquely networked, communication would be very fast.) We might have a Holy War on our hands. A little different than I thought, but it might still come to pass. I wouldn't have thought the Seraphs would be on the ship's side and might have even instigated the whole thing. To quote the Simpsons: Anyway, what can the robots do if everyone is stuck in Zimmingham? Will they oppose the Seraphs or will some of them be on their side? |
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Post by zimmyzims on Sept 29, 2014 7:32:19 GMT
I find it interesting that Annie trusted neither Anja nor Parley, even if they would have been obvious choices, and as she seemingly wants to work this past the court, it may be she just doesn't trust the court and feared that they are too close to court not to speak to it.
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Post by sapientcoffee on Sept 29, 2014 7:34:50 GMT
That was fast. So, it would appear that Annie is not going through official channels, but instead keeping this under wraps. It also appears that the Cult of Kat is going to end up at odds with the Seraphs. AHA!! I finally have an avatar! The angriest face! (does anybody know how to remove the textbox?)  |
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Post by eightyfour on Sept 29, 2014 8:19:24 GMT
Did anyone actually think that the Robot King would be the one to help? The thought of getting him involved actually did cross my mind. But I immediately dismissed it again because I just can't take the guy seriously. I should've known better by now.  |
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Post by feraldog on Sept 29, 2014 8:30:09 GMT
It is kind of funny how we all assumed that all of the robots were involved in the cruise ship incident and that Robot was on their side. Perhaps this whole occurrence will, once everything is resolved, just be written off as the actions of a renegade few (the ship and the Seraphs) with no long term repercussions on the role of robots within the court. There's been a decent amount of speculation about the Seraphs. They clearly do not see Kat as a divine being worthy of reverence the way Robocult does. |
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Post by omnimedialevaeum on Sept 29, 2014 8:41:30 GMT
It is kind of funny how we all assumed that all of the robots were involved in the cruise ship incident and that Robot was on their side. Perhaps this whole occurrence will, once everything is resolved, just be written off as the actions of a renegade few (the ship and the Seraphs) with no long term repercussions on the role of robots within the court. There's been a decent amount of speculation about the Seraphs. They clearly do not see Kat as a divine being worthy of reverence the way Robocult does. But, wasn't it the Seraphs that bestowed the mark of the creator upon Katerina? They clearly do view her as a divine being, perhaps even more extremely so than the other robots, as evidenced by the events of the current chapter. |
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Post by chrisjenl on Sept 29, 2014 8:51:52 GMT
Anyway, what can the robots do if everyone is stuck in Zimmingham? Will they oppose the Seraphs or will some of them be on their side? Very likely, the control of the grid of etheric syphons around the ship is at the leak at gunnerkringg court and if the kings "army" get control of that they can shooting it down. I think all the followers of the king/angel will oppose the Seraphs. ps At the begin of the chapter there was a discussion of with relation will be torn. It looks like it the seraphs and the rest of the robots. and love the bookcase of Renard |
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Post by keef on Sept 29, 2014 8:53:32 GMT
Anyway, what can the robots do if everyone is stuck in Zimmingham? Will they oppose the Seraphs or will some of them be on their side? First: attack the syphons. There's been a decent amount of speculation about the Seraphs. They clearly do not see Kat as a divine being worthy of reverence the way Robocult does. But, wasn't it the Seraphs that bestowed the mark of the creator upon Katerina? They clearly do view her as a divine being, perhaps even more extremely so than the other robots, as evidenced by the events of the current chapter. Best answer was already given: There are two different (formerly opposed) groups of robots; Robot's Cult (who are presumably still calling her Angel) and the Seraphs (who, since becoming aware of Kat, have always referred to her as Creator). As far as I can tell from events in the comic, while the two groups are no longer in conflict, they have VERY different attitudes and beliefs about Kat. Robot and the Cult seem to look upon her as a literal angel whose word is to be heeded and studied for meaning. The Seraphs by contrast seem to view her as a tool or a service figure who was promised to them, to bring them to a new state of being: useful, certainly; destined, perhaps; divine and to be heeded, not even remotely. As far as I can tell the events of Torn Sea ONLY involve the Seraphs and their followers, and not Robot and his. I would bet that Robot knows nothing about this scheme and would try to stop it if he did. |
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Post by omnimedialevaeum on Sept 29, 2014 9:04:21 GMT
Best answer was already given: There are two different (formerly opposed) groups of robots; Robot's Cult (who are presumably still calling her Angel) and the Seraphs (who, since becoming aware of Kat, have always referred to her as Creator). As far as I can tell from events in the comic, while the two groups are no longer in conflict, they have VERY different attitudes and beliefs about Kat. Robot and the Cult seem to look upon her as a literal angel whose word is to be heeded and studied for meaning. The Seraphs by contrast seem to view her as a tool or a service figure who was promised to them, to bring them to a new state of being: useful, certainly; destined, perhaps; divine and to be heeded, not even remotely. As far as I can tell the events of Torn Sea ONLY involve the Seraphs and their followers, and not Robot and his. I would bet that Robot knows nothing about this scheme and would try to stop it if he did. I seem to have missed this post. I will try to be more careful about reading all posts in the future. Not having paid close attention to what others had said, I was genuinely surprised by today's page, having incorrectly assumed that the robots and seraphs acted as a single body, but it makes sense now that I think about it. Thank you for quoting the previous post. |
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Post by KMar on Sept 29, 2014 9:31:45 GMT
Best answer was already given: There are two different (formerly opposed) groups of robots; Robot's Cult (who are presumably still calling her Angel) and the Seraphs (who, since becoming aware of Kat, have always referred to her as Creator). As far as I can tell from events in the comic, while the two groups are no longer in conflict, they have VERY different attitudes and beliefs about Kat. Robot and the Cult seem to look upon her as a literal angel whose word is to be heeded and studied for meaning. The Seraphs by contrast seem to view her as a tool or a service figure who was promised to them, to bring them to a new state of being: useful, certainly; destined, perhaps; divine and to be heeded, not even remotely. As far as I can tell the events of Torn Sea ONLY involve the Seraphs and their followers, and not Robot and his. I would bet that Robot knows nothing about this scheme and would try to stop it if he did. ...and suddenly this comic starts to resemble a commentary on the cultural background of certain prominent Western religions (well, if it didn't already, Golems and everything). However, as things stand, it seems dozen of prophetic cookies should be delivered to user bykerhill without any delay. Anyway, this might have been already pointed out, but given what we've seen about the S13's Cult, it yet looks like one of those... edgier ones (if that's a good word), even if the other Seraphs turned out not to be very nice neither. I'm still harbouring a thought that all this might be some sort of ultimate master plan by Robot to get rid of the only apparent and even competent (as demonstrated during the course of this chapter) security service and mystico-religious-clerical high priests of the robots, which also has been (and potentially still would be) his primary adversary. Or anyway, this turn of events (leading the Kings Cavalry to the rescue of Angel from the Nefarious Actions Orchestrated by Evil Seraphs, and thus conveniently deposing them) looks awfully useful for him in that regard. |
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Post by kralex on Sept 29, 2014 10:07:02 GMT
That's his seriousest face. |
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Post by gradiant on Sept 29, 2014 10:20:31 GMT
For the sake of completeness, isn't it possible that the Seraphim and Robot King are actually in cahoots, and that the angriest face is being made because their plan has been leaked to the outside, or some similar reason?
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Post by Xan on Sept 29, 2014 10:31:13 GMT
Oh no! The game face! The gamiest face!
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Post by Purgatorius on Sept 29, 2014 10:34:22 GMT
So, it would appear that Annie is not going through official channels, but instead keeping this under wraps. Maybe Annie fears that the Court would confiscate Kat's bio-hybrid experiment if they found out about it, like they did with her anti-grav ship. |
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Post by Purgatorius on Sept 29, 2014 10:38:34 GMT
also please tell me i wasn't the only one imagining epic metal gear solid music or something over the last panel No, I imagined a dun-dun-DUN. |
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Post by Jelly Jellybean on Sept 29, 2014 10:41:47 GMT
Annie's decision to seek help from the other Court Robots may help Kat maintain/reestablish her trust/faith in the Court Robots. Maybe this chapter won't be the dark turn many thought it would be. I am not implying this is why Annie decided to go with the Bots, but I will admit that I had developed a lot of foreboding and the Bots rallying to help dispels some of those dark clouds.
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Post by todd on Sept 29, 2014 10:45:45 GMT
So, it would appear that Annie is not going through official channels, but instead keeping this under wraps. Maybe Annie fears that the Court would confiscate Kat's bio-hybrid experiment if they found out about it, like they did with her anti-grav ship. Or that the Court would hold an investigation about how the "robot religion" business got started, which might lead them to Robot, which might lead them in turn to how Annie took him out of the closet he'd been stuffed into and sent him across the bridge. At any rate, I definitely hadn't expected Annie to ask the other robots at the Court for help - though I think it's a good idea from the storytelling perspective, at least, showing us that the Court robots aren't all like the Seraphs. (In the same way that we got to see in previous chapters that a lot of the denizens of Gilltie Wood *do* want to live in peace with the Court and that those who hate it - like Ysengrin's army in the ruins or the shadow-folk who banished Shadow2 - are just one faction.) Tom continues to show himself great at delivering big surprises. Let's hope that the robots are able to handle Zimmy's world (at present, outside help is going to be hindered by the ship and everyone on board being trapped there) - though as people have suggested, the robots could de-activate the siphons. (I do suspect there'll have to be more to it than that - in stories on this scale, mere physical activity turns out to never be enough.) |
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