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Post by Elysium on Sept 12, 2014 7:00:33 GMT
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Post by fwip on Sept 12, 2014 7:02:19 GMT
Now we know. I was in the right camp, it seems.
Also, was the lightning bolt pure chance or something trying to stop the little 'copter?
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Post by Toloc on Sept 12, 2014 7:02:43 GMT
Will it work with "Renard", wouldn't it have to be Reynardine?
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Post by goldenknots on Sept 12, 2014 7:03:12 GMT
So, now, who is Renard going to recruit?
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Post by fwip on Sept 12, 2014 7:03:29 GMT
Will it work with "Renard", wouldn't it have to be Reynardine? No doubt there are hundreds or more Renards in the world. I assume it's part of the spell that it knows who you're referring to. |
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Post by fwip on Sept 12, 2014 7:05:29 GMT
Also: Tom: "that's torn it". I wonder if he's referring to court-forest relations? Or the lightning bolt is Zimmy snapping?
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Post by Deleted on Sept 12, 2014 7:07:10 GMT
Also: Tom: "that's torn it". I wonder if he's referring to court-forest relations? Or the lightning bolt is Zimmy snapping?  That certainly looks like a severe reality distortion back there. My guess is the latter. |
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Post by Fishy on Sept 12, 2014 7:09:28 GMT
I'll first say called it, and secondly, I don't think the lightning bolt is after the little copter. I also don't think it's coincidence though. That looks a lot less like a tactical bolt of divine retribution and more of a "Zimmy has snapped and things are about to get squishy so pull the big mad scientist lever" lightning bolt. At least in the way the page is drawn, that is. I like the distortion effect regardless.
Ya know, I get that beggars can't be choosers, but somehow -and call me crazy here- I don't think that little robot is going to reach its destination nearly in time. Oh well, time with Zimmy is always interesting. Let's see what happens.
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Post by goldenknots on Sept 12, 2014 7:09:39 GMT
It just remains to find out that the sending was what tore things, not Zimmy or the robots. Oops.  |
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Post by goldenknots on Sept 12, 2014 7:13:00 GMT
Also, just noticed that our Jenny is left-handed. Not significant? I think Tom's choices are always interesting.
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Post by Thoth on Sept 12, 2014 7:13:10 GMT
Will it work with "Renard", wouldn't it have to be Reynardine? No doubt there are hundreds or more Renards in the world. I assume it's part of the spell that it knows who you're referring to. Not originally, at least. |
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Post by asyetunnamed on Sept 12, 2014 7:19:00 GMT
That is the only thing I have guessed correctly in this comic. I don't think that he'll turn up alone; we are probably going to see a task force including the rest of the hot picks. I'm not sure about Smit and Parley, just because it is the end of the year and they may have already gone home.
How will this outcome affect Court/Forest relations? One of the cornerstones of the Court (they are heavily reliant on robots to do everyday tasks) has just been shown to be fallible whilst having access to items that can restrict ethereal talents. It could well lead to the Court altering their policy of students like Zimmy, to keep them safe, and the forest feeling a little more threatened.
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Post by rafk on Sept 12, 2014 7:25:29 GMT
Huh. And there I was assuming that urgent trouble meant sending an alert to Jones. I mean, what can Renard do to solve this apart from... telling Jones. Or maybe Parley and Smitty if they are not on the boat. But if they aren't, that's two more people I'd tell before I told Renard, who is not the most free to go about his business.
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Post by fwip on Sept 12, 2014 7:27:21 GMT
Huh. And there I was assuming that urgent trouble meant sending an alert to Jones. I mean, what can Renard do to solve this apart from... telling Jones. Or maybe Parley and Smitty if they are not on the boat. But if they aren't, that's two more people I'd tell before I told Renard, who is not the most free to go about his business. We haven't seen Renard in combat, but I'm guessing that he's pretty badass. He can probably still fly, and he can definitely shapeshift into a more powerful form. I'll bet he'd be able to beat pre-bip Parley easily. |
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Post by TBeholder on Sept 12, 2014 7:30:04 GMT
Now we know. I was in the right camp, it seems. Also, was the lightning bolt pure chance or something trying to stop the little 'copter? The effect of guidance spell passing through ether gradient created by those syphons? So, now, who is Renard going to recruit? The whole point to call Renard is that Annie knows she can talk with him in real time via blinker. But in the end... Parley and Donlans? There's no "overkill"... especially when the alternative is to see how much of a mess can be caused by freaked out Zimmy. |
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Post by Lightice on Sept 12, 2014 7:37:25 GMT
But in the end... Parley and Donlans? There's no "overkill"... especially when the alternative is to see how much of a mess can be caused by freaked out Zimmy. Well, that kind of depends. If they approach the matter the wrong way, it's just going to be more bodies for the Whitelegs to infect. A couple of people who can protect themselves against Zimmy's illusions are going to be more effective than an army that ends up falling victim to them. I honestly have no clue which characters, apart from Jones ofcourse, who'd be best for the job. |
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Post by sotha on Sept 12, 2014 8:05:56 GMT
That's definitely reality getting torn... I think. The boat being only half there is no trick of light; it's being subsumed into the Zimmyverse.
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Post by dliessmgg on Sept 12, 2014 8:07:13 GMT
My guess is Renard will come with Parley and Smit for safe and fast travelling and with Robot for negotiations.
That is, of course, if Lindsey doesn't intervene first.
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Post by foresterr on Sept 12, 2014 8:11:35 GMT
If they approach the matter the wrong way, it's just going to be more bodies for the Whitelegs to infect. A couple of people who can protect themselves against Zimmy's illusions are going to be more effective than an army that ends up falling victim to them. I honestly have no clue which characters, apart from Jones ofcourse, who'd be best for the job. I started wondering if the Court etheric security team (or whoever they are... you know, Aata and his pals) are actually as useless as they seemed to be, or if their usual methods are more of the "nuke them from the orbit" variety and that's why they let Jones try the unconventional approach first (which she did by letting Annie handle it) the last time. Anyway, I hope they don't get involved, because they are kinda boring  |
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Post by rafk on Sept 12, 2014 8:43:18 GMT
Huh. And there I was assuming that urgent trouble meant sending an alert to Jones. I mean, what can Renard do to solve this apart from... telling Jones. Or maybe Parley and Smitty if they are not on the boat. But if they aren't, that's two more people I'd tell before I told Renard, who is not the most free to go about his business. We haven't seen Renard in combat, but I'm guessing that he's pretty badass. He can probably still fly, and he can definitely shapeshift into a more powerful form. I'll bet he'd be able to beat pre-bip Parley easily. If Renard leaves the Court, especially without Annie, the Court would nuke him. He's not flying to the rescue, not that a powerful fighter to stop the robots would make a difference in this situation if Zimmy is already snapping. |
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Post by noone3 on Sept 12, 2014 9:20:45 GMT
Tom: "that's torn it". I wonder if he's referring to court-forest relations? I guess he might have meant tearing the very fabric of reality, while the whole computerized ship has been ethered into Zimmyspace. That's what I think. |
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Post by todd on Sept 12, 2014 10:55:11 GMT
One problem I can see with Reynardine as Annie's choice (even though it's understandable, from how she's grown to trust him); the Court doesn't trust him, and looks upon him as a dangerous criminal. He and Eglamore were moving towards peace and reconciliation at the end of the "Quicksilver" chapter, but I'm not sure how much of the rest of the staff would receive him. I certainly think that the Headmaster would look upon this is a trick for Reynardine to escape the Court - maybe even forbid any rescue attempt on the ship at all (even if his own daughter's on board).
And, yes, as asyetunnamed pointed out, this is going to lead to some serious problems for the Court about the robots - how many of them have been subverted? They can't shut them all down - but how can they be certain that there won't be more incidents like this? And what will they do to Kat for - unwittingly, of course - help to bring this situation about? Since she didn't know that the robots were building a religion around her (or at least, not to the extent it was), expelling her or giving her detention until she graduates seems harsh - though the Court administration might feel tempted to do something severe to her, simply because it's easier than handling the robot coumunity. (And her project could be considered sheltering an escaped felon.)
And how will Annie and Kat feel about Robot, whose words had helped get them into this mess? "Friends don't start religions that put friends in jeopardy." Robot may have to choose between his prophetic career and his friends.
All in all, I think the effects of this will outlast the solution of the immediate problem (and with Zimmy concerned, solving it won't be easy).;
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Post by increment on Sept 12, 2014 10:57:32 GMT
Will it work with "Renard", wouldn't it have to be Reynardine? His name's Renard. Reynardine's the nickname. |
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Post by mudmaniac on Sept 12, 2014 11:59:20 GMT
That young man Jack has a neck that could snap other, lesser necks.
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Post by zimmyzims on Sept 12, 2014 12:20:46 GMT
Will it work with "Renard", wouldn't it have to be Reynardine? I think Renard is the right name, Rey(nardine) just a nick name, sort of. Edit: Ninjaed! By 5 hours. I blame the slow connection.  |
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Post by Toloc on Sept 12, 2014 12:30:12 GMT
Will it work with "Renard", wouldn't it have to be Reynardine? I think Renard is the right name, Rey(nardine) just a nick name, sort of. Yeah, you guy are right, I couldn't quite remember which one was his real name and which one the nickname. I looked in the wiki and the title of his article was Reynardine, so I went with that. But you're right, it was Surma herself who came up with the name Reynardine in that flashback in Fire Spike. BTW: if someone finds the time that wiki article could use some updates. |
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Post by freeman on Sept 12, 2014 13:04:06 GMT
Will it work with "Renard", wouldn't it have to be Reynardine? His name's Renard. Reynardine's the nickname. It may be old news but Renardine is a brand of fox repellent, probably named after Renard though.  gkc blip.png (268.15 KB) (You see, the ship will shrink to size of about 1:4 when entering to Zimmingham; just one effect of her illusions.) |
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Post by ctso74 on Sept 12, 2014 13:29:56 GMT
And, yes, as asyetunnamed pointed out, this is going to lead to some serious problems for the Court about the robots - how many of them have been subverted? They can't shut them all down - but how can they be certain that there won't be more incidents like this? Of course, that's assuming the Court doesn't already know. We have no idea what their endgame is. A Transhuman/Transrobot singularity may be their goal, or close enough to allow some inconveniences. The Court may be in the dark about Love Boat's Zimmy plan, but there are reasons to let Kat play. A powerful semi-obedient army. Or maybe divinity. What better way to become gods, than in a bodies of metal and ether? |
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Post by Eversist on Sept 12, 2014 13:35:14 GMT
Yey, I guessed correctly.
I think he's going to recruit Eglamore.
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Post by hypixion on Sept 12, 2014 13:39:05 GMT
Huh. And there I was assuming that urgent trouble meant sending an alert to Jones. I mean, what can Renard do to solve this apart from... telling Jones. Or maybe Parley and Smitty if they are not on the boat. But if they aren't, that's two more people I'd tell before I told Renard, who is not the most free to go about his business. "The stronger the magic user, the better." I think Renard is pretty much the strongest magic user in the court. |
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That certainly looks like a severe reality distortion back there. My guess is the latter.
