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Post by omnimedialevaeum on Jun 11, 2014 7:21:12 GMT
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Post by freeformline on Jun 11, 2014 7:27:31 GMT
Welcome to the forum! I really like this page. It's pretty cool to see the kind of exhibition the forest can put on when they need to look their best.
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Post by feraldog on Jun 11, 2014 7:33:01 GMT
Well, there goes the froggy-is-Coyote hypothesis.
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Post by KMar on Jun 11, 2014 7:35:48 GMT
Well, there goes the froggy-is-Coyote hypothesis. There was such a hypothesis?! I wonder if those are the Traditional Forest Medium robes? |
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Post by freeformline on Jun 11, 2014 7:36:55 GMT
I wonder if those are the Traditional Forest Medium robes? If so, I would very much like to see what Ysengrin looked like in them. |
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Post by KMar on Jun 11, 2014 7:39:19 GMT
I wonder if those are the Traditional Forest Medium robes? If so, I would very much like to see what Ysengrin looked like in them. ...well he is still wearing those rugs which look quite similar in style. If you squint your eyes. |
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Post by Gotolei on Jun 11, 2014 7:49:30 GMT
If so, I would very much like to see what Ysengrin looked like in them. ...well he is still wearing those rugs which look quite similar in style. If you squint your eyes. I guess they have the same split T sort of thing going. Then again, so does Green? |
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Post by freeformline on Jun 11, 2014 7:52:18 GMT
It's probably just the big fashion of the decade. They'll go back to stripes and pants before Annie graduates.
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Post by imaginaryfriend on Jun 11, 2014 8:12:56 GMT
Oh I get it. Ys is making the trees grow into a copy of the Court's greeting hall, that's what was up with the straight ones from last comic. I think the "woods" security badge is a little over-the-top but if he's going to go that far it should be hanging from a necklace or belt like they do at cons...
And welcome to the forums, Omnimedialevaeum!
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Post by freeformline on Jun 11, 2014 8:24:40 GMT
Oh I get it. Ys is making the trees grow into a copy of the Court's greeting hall, that's what was up with the straight ones from last comic. I think the "woods" security badge is a little over-the-top but if he's going to go that far it should be hanging from a necklace or belt like they do at cons... And welcome to the forums, Omnimedialevaeum! I think the badge is more just to distinguish Annie from the other humans as a representative of the forest. It would be cool to see Ysengrin as a security director, with a suit and a badge. |
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Post by Toloc on Jun 11, 2014 9:22:46 GMT
Omygod, frog guy lied!
She does have a face after all. And clothes.
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Post by omnimedialevaeum on Jun 11, 2014 9:38:52 GMT
And welcome to the forums, Omnimedialevaeum! Thank you. I have been silently lurking for a few months since discovering Gunnerkrigg Court in February. On a couple of occasions, I considered posting, but decided not to. Today, however, when I saw that a discussion page had not been made yet, on an impulse, I just decided: "Why not?" Well, since I am here, I may as well join the discussion with my wild ideas. Something about the red lines on both Antimony's and Ysengrin's clothing makes me think back to Coyote's binding. Especially the line on the collar of Antimony's robe makes brings to my mind the idea of some kind of symbolic claim on her life, one perhaps that she is not aware of. We must remember that she is still a very young person and however enthusiastic and talented she might be, I get the feeling that Annie has not given a great deal of thought into the true implications of what she is getting herself into. We have seen it happen before in the comic where her overconfidence and failure to give due "respect" to the forces with which she comes into contact have gotten her into serious danger. To clarify, perhaps "respect" is not the correct word; I mean it not in the sense of respecting a person, but more as in, for example, respecting the ocean as a wonderous but very potentially very dangerous thing, not something to take lightly. We saw this happen in chapter 39 ("The Great Secret") in the events leading up to Ysengrin's attacks on her. We saw it happen in chapter 30 ("The Coward Heart") in the consequences of her ill-planned attempt to communicate with Jeanne which nearly proved fatal both for her and Parley. We even saw it in the events which led up to her first encounter with Jeanne in her decision to take matters into her own hands and go out onto the bridge. My point is that this comic very frequently depicts acts of hubris which are, in time, punished. This does not just apply to Annie, of course. There was Anthony Carver's hubris in thinking that he could break the cycle of death by saving Surma. There was Reynard, who thought that he could use powers beyond his abilities to win Surma's heart. Most conspicuously of all, there is the court itself. My point is that this comic is largely about acts of arrogance and talented individuals attempting to become involved with things that they do not fully understand. But, in nearly every case up until now that we have seen Antimony act in such a manner, some sort of punishment (or at least a very serious threat thereof) usually follows. For quite a while now, it seems that we have largely seen Annie succeed over and over again. Since chapter 41, we have seen her appointed as the forest medium, seen her successfully battle in the forest, winning Ysengrin's respect, seen her influence in reforming Reynardine. And now, most recently, we have seen her become an afterlife guide (although Mort's voyage into the ether was an upsetting affair for all involved, it cannot be denied that it ultimately represented a triumph for Annie). I think that, with this series of triumphs, we are ultimately building up to some sort of catastrophe that will happen in the not-to-distant future (given the timeline of the comic, that might mean a few years, though) where Antimony will be forced to come to terms with and "respect" the powers that she is playing with. As jocular as Coyote is, we have seen how dangerous he is and I cannot help but feel that there is a great deal of asymmetry in his and Annie's understanding of what her duties as the Forest Medium actually entail. Of course, I am very likely wrong. In any case, this comic is a beautiful work of art (not just in the sense of visual art) that I consider myself very fortunate to have found. Whatever he decides to do, I fully trust Mr. Siddell as a storyteller, something which I could not say about many creators, even those of most of the works which I love dearly. |
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Post by philman on Jun 11, 2014 9:59:46 GMT
And welcome to the forums, Omnimedialevaeum! Of course, I am very likely wrong. In any case, this comic is a beautiful work of art (not just in the sense of visual art) that I consider myself very fortunate to have found. Whatever he decides to do, I fully trust Mr. Siddell as a storyteller, something which I could not say about many creators, even those of most of the works which I love dearly. Nice ideas. I think I agree with the idea od arrogance being punished in this comic. I was actually about to post myself that this may be leading again to a demonstration of how little Annie knows about the forest. Although I reckong this chapter will still be fairly positive, given the events of the last chapter we probably need a break from nasty things! |
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Post by CoyoteReborn on Jun 11, 2014 11:04:23 GMT
Hey look, there I am!! Hi me!!
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Post by masheen on Jun 11, 2014 11:34:50 GMT
This "hall" grown out of trees that mimicks the courts meeting hall somehow reminds me of those ceremonies in some countries in Africa where they mix their tribal customs with the demeanor and the uniforms of their old colonial occupying force- it is a bit unsettling seeing the forest trying to emulate human behavior in this way.
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Post by mariposa on Jun 11, 2014 11:39:18 GMT
Ahh, Annie has an adorable dress that matches Ysengrin's, I can't handle this!
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Post by csj on Jun 11, 2014 11:58:24 GMT
Ahh, Annie has an adorable dress that matches Ysengrin's, I can't handle this! It seems that the forest really has a knack for brash yet earthly attire. I like it. (they'd make a killing in paris) |
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Post by Daedalus on Jun 11, 2014 12:56:54 GMT
And welcome to the forums, Omnimedialevaeum! Thank you. I have been silently lurking for a few months since discovering Gunnerkrigg Court in February. On a couple of occasions, I considered posting, but decided not to. Today, however, when I saw that a discussion page had not been made yet, on an impulse, I just decided: "Why not?" Well, since I am here, I may as well join the discussion with my wild ideas. Something about the red lines on both Antimony's and Ysengrin's clothing makes me think back to Coyote's binding. Especially the line on the collar of Antimony's robe makes brings to my mind the idea of some kind of symbolic claim on her life, one perhaps that she is not aware of. We must remember that she is still a very young person and however enthusiastic and talented she might be, I get the feeling that Annie has not given a great deal of thought into the true implications of what she is getting herself into. We have seen it happen before in the comic where her overconfidence and failure to give due "respect" to the forces with which she comes into contact have gotten her into serious danger. To clarify, perhaps "respect" is not the correct word; I mean it not in the sense of respecting a person, but more as in, for example, respecting the ocean as a wonderous but very potentially very dangerous thing, not something to take lightly. We saw this happen in chapter 39 ("The Great Secret") in the events leading up to Ysengrin's attacks on her. We saw it happen in chapter 30 ("The Coward Heart") in the consequences of her ill-planned attempt to communicate with Jeanne which nearly proved fatal both for her and Parley. We even saw it in the events which led up to her first encounter with Jeanne in her decision to take matters into her own hands and go out onto the bridge. My point is that this comic very frequently depicts acts of hubris which are, in time, punished. This does not just apply to Annie, of course. There was Anthony Carver's hubris in thinking that he could break the cycle of death by saving Surma. There was Reynard, who thought that he could use powers beyond his abilities to win Surma's heart. Most conspicuously of all, there is the court itself. My point is that this comic is largely about acts of arrogance and talented individuals attempting to become involved with things that they do not fully understand. But, in nearly every case up until now that we have seen Antimony act in such a manner, some sort of punishment (or at least a very serious threat thereof) usually follows. For quite a while now, it seems that we have largely seen Annie succeed over and over again. Since chapter 41, we have seen her appointed as the forest medium, seen her successfully battle in the forest, winning Ysengrin's respect, seen her influence in reforming Reynardine. And now, most recently, we have seen her become an afterlife guide (although Mort's voyage into the ether was an upsetting affair for all involved, it cannot be denied that it ultimately represented a triumph for Annie). I think that, with this series of triumphs, we are ultimately building up to some sort of catastrophe that will happen in the not-to-distant future (given the timeline of the comic, that might mean a few years, though) where Antimony will be forced to come to terms with and "respect" the powers that she is playing with. As jocular as Coyote is, we have seen how dangerous he is and I cannot help but feel that there is a great deal of asymmetry in his and Annie's understanding of what her duties as the Forest Medium actually entail. Of course, I am very likely wrong. In any case, this comic is a beautiful work of art (not just in the sense of visual art) that I consider myself very fortunate to have found. Whatever he decides to do, I fully trust Mr. Siddell as a storyteller, something which I could not say about many creators, even those of most of the works which I love dearly. The only two disagreements I have with your argument: first, I don't think there was any triumph in taking Mort into the ether. Both Kat and Annie were emotionally broken by the experience, despite that it technically showed that Annie has the powers of a guide. Second, I am not sure if Anthony's attempt to save Surma's life is canon or if it was really punished. I like your points about hubris though, and welcome to the forum! This "hall" grown out of trees that mimicks the courts meeting hall... Although, you know, since the Forest is older it's possible that the Court mimicked them instead. Just mentioning. I actually like the parallel: the open spaces and light of the forest's relatively informal variety, compared to the gothic beauty of the Court's austere meeting room. |
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Post by fwip on Jun 11, 2014 13:27:49 GMT
[too long to quote again, sorry] The only two disagreements I have with your argument: first, I don't think there was any triumph in taking Mort into the ether. Both Kat and Annie were emotionally broken by the experience, despite that it technically showed that Annie has the powers of a guide. Second, I am not sure if Anthony's attempt to save Surma's life is canon or if it was really punished. I like your points about hubris though, and welcome to the forum! This "hall" grown out of trees that mimicks the courts meeting hall... Although, you know, since the Foreat is older it's possible that the Court mimicked them instead. Just mentioning. I actually like the parallel: the open spaces and light of the forest's relatively informal variety, compared to the gothic beauty of the Court's austere meeting room. "emotionally broken" would mean numb, wouldn't it? Annie appeared to react perfectly normally and, from her face in this comic, is recovering well. She grieved hard, but not unduly long. |
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Post by ctso74 on Jun 11, 2014 13:52:16 GMT
My point is that this comic very frequently depicts acts of hubris which are, in time, punished. Whether used as a dip, or spread on vegi-sandwiches, good hubris can be hard to fix. I agree, many poor instances can seem like punishment. But, take the rosemary, garl- Wait... Wait... You clearly misspelled hummus. Pfft! |
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Post by imaginaryfriend on Jun 11, 2014 14:45:02 GMT
And welcome to the forums, Omnimedialevaeum! Thank you. I have been silently lurking for a few months since discovering Gunnerkrigg Court in February. On a couple of occasions, I considered posting, but decided not to. Today, however, when I saw that a discussion page had not been made yet, on an impulse, I just decided: "Why not? You're welcome. I also lurked for a long time before joining the forum. I forget when but I finally couldn't restrain myself from asking Mr. Siddell why he hadn't come up with any merchandise or t-shirts to sell at that point. This "hall" grown out of trees that mimicks the courts meeting hall somehow reminds me of those ceremonies in some countries in Africa where they mix their tribal customs with the demeanor and the uniforms of their old colonial occupying force- it is a bit unsettling seeing the forest trying to emulate human behavior in this way. I wonder if it's the wood's idea or if it's just Ys' own initiative (I'm leaning toward the latter). Might be that none of the animals here (except Coyote) know what the scenery mod means since I doubt many (if any) are old enough to have ever been in the greeting hall. So it's nominally for the benefit of the arriving humans, to provide a proper and comfortable space for the official meet and greet, with the subtext that the wood can do whatever the Court can do. But with Ys your point is well-taken and maybe understated; there's probably a good "he who studies evil is studied by evil" parallel here with his misunderstanding of the Court. Hopefully it will get explored in the story at some point. Who knows what deeds Coyote's erased from his memory to keep him marginally sane? Ahh, Annie has an adorable dress that matches Ysengrin's, I can't handle this! It seems that the forest really has a knack for brash yet earthly attire. I like it.(they'd make a killing in paris) After a fast review of "in the forest" I must disagree. Not a single hat to be seen. Omygod, frog guy lied! She does have a face after all. And clothes. Be patient, the chapter is just getting started. |
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Post by freeformline on Jun 11, 2014 15:18:16 GMT
I also lurked for a long time before joining the forum. I forget when but I finally couldn't restrain myself from asking Mr. Siddell why he hadn't come up with any merchandise or t-shirts to sell at that point. That reminds me that I would very much like to see some form of collared shirt with a subtle Gunnerkrigg pattern or embroidery. There comes a point in every young man's life when one simply has too many t-shirts. I would also buy the heck out of a good pullover sweater with the pattern of Ysengrin's robes if it came in conservative enough colors. |
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Post by asyetunnamed on Jun 11, 2014 17:45:10 GMT
That reminds me that I would very much like to see some form of collared shirt with a subtle Gunnerkrigg pattern or embroidery. There comes a point in every young man's life when one simply has too many t-shirts. Strangely enough, I was just thinking about that type of collared shirt. What are the green things that are lined up in the middle frame? |
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Post by imaginaryfriend on Jun 11, 2014 18:08:33 GMT
There comes a point in every young man's life when one simply has too many t-shirts. But then a few years later he reaches another point when he notices that instead of getting rid of some of those old t-shirts like he was pondering, he could use them as shop rags to help wax his car, clean the silverware, degrease engine parts, wash the windows, buff leather shoes, polish brass, scrub the marble facing... |
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Post by sotha on Jun 11, 2014 18:24:53 GMT
What are the green things that are lined up in the middle frame? I didn't notice that the first time. Looks like everyone is lining up, since Annie and them are green as well inside the canopy thing. The layout of that middle frame reminds me of a nativity scene. I miss the question marks. |
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Post by Intelligence on Jun 11, 2014 19:42:10 GMT
:)Now Canvey can be publicly humiliated, and never tell tales/lies ever again. |
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Post by fish on Jun 11, 2014 20:24:14 GMT
Check out Tom's tumblr for a close-up of Annies outfit. I can't wait for the cosplays!  |
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Post by mariposa on Jun 12, 2014 2:28:27 GMT
Check out Tom's tumblr for a close-up of Annies outfit. I can't wait for the cosplays! Oh, neat! Thanks for pointing that out! |
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Post by keef on Jun 12, 2014 14:50:47 GMT
I may as well join the discussion with my wild ideas. Never wild enough! Well that's a prediction that can't go wrong. This chapter will be fun and music though.. Ahh, Annie has an adorable dress that matches Ysengrin's, I can't handle this! Yeah, our little girl grown up so beautiful.  |
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Post by GK Sierra on Jun 12, 2014 21:18:41 GMT
Tom's Author evolution was so intense that the entire geometry of Antimony's head rotated 90 degrees counter-clockwise.
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