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Post by KMar on Apr 4, 2014 7:15:00 GMT
So. This is how the ROTD looks like to Annie? Truly wonderful. Also, 15 min and no thread?
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Post by smjjames on Apr 4, 2014 7:25:09 GMT
Yeah, I was wondering what was up with the thread. Also, the fifth panel has the chapter thumbnail.
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Post by keef on Apr 4, 2014 7:33:36 GMT
The chapter icon in panel four five. Beautiful page again anyway.
And try starting a thread on a tablet.
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Post by smjjames on Apr 4, 2014 7:38:13 GMT
The chapter icon in panel four. Beautiful page again anyway. And try starting a thread at a tablet. Ha, yeah, pretty awkward to do it on an iPad too. Also, there are clearly seven panels, not 6. I'm also noticing that what to us looked kind of like ribs or bones from a distance, are actually the straps on his cloak. |
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Post by Eversist on Apr 4, 2014 7:48:42 GMT
So. This is how the ROTD looks like to Annie? Truly wonderful. I posted late in the last thread that the pages before today's also take place in the ROTD, because it looked exactly like the background of the bonus page of the last chapter (where we saw the true form of the guy that Kat kicked out of the room). |
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Post by Nepycros on Apr 4, 2014 7:54:54 GMT
"I just want to help." "So do we." She may think of herself as holding separate interests from the psychopomps, but the fact of the matter is her motives and desires intersect in a variety of ways. Her ties with the ethereal memories of long-dead people are what keeps her interested. She's not a mechanic. Heck, she's only a half-good medium. If Coyote hadn't taken a shine to her, she'd be out of luck. She's a fire elemental, and a death guide at heart. But this is getting dangerous. Her desire to 'help' Jeanne is going to become an obsession at this rate. She'll lose sleep over it, and start doubting her own abilities.
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Post by KMar on Apr 4, 2014 7:55:21 GMT
So. This is how the ROTD looks like to Annie? Truly wonderful. I posted late in the last thread that the pages before today's also take place in the ROTD, because it looked exactly like the background of the bonus page of the last chapter (where we saw the true form of the guy that Kat kicked out of the room). You're certainly correct. I should have said: the ROTD outside the Final Records. (Was thinking about these halls of terror[/ur]. ) |
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Post by zbeeblebrox on Apr 4, 2014 10:00:53 GMT
Mr. Sombrero Sunshine is skeptical of Annie's motivations regarding Jeanne.
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Post by keef on Apr 4, 2014 10:11:47 GMT
Mr. Sombrero Sunshine is skeptical of Annie's motivations regarding Jeanne. Judging by her face he might have a point. |
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Post by arf on Apr 4, 2014 11:14:19 GMT
Ankou is inferring that Annie is actively seeking to be a guide, whereas Muut has simply manipulated her in certain ways. Her role in ethereal affairs has always struck me more as casual assistant than apprentice.
Ankou's remarks do put a different perspective on Muut's comment when Annie tells him Jeanne's name:
"Then you have already begun to help."
I had thought it referred to Jeanne's knotty case in particular, but what if it was meant in a more general sense?
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Post by alpacalypse on Apr 4, 2014 13:25:46 GMT
I really want to know more about what Ankou is talking about what is drawing Annie to Jeanne. It has always seemed as if the Guides have this strong desire, almost maybe a need, to take souls into the ether themselves.
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Post by ctso74 on Apr 4, 2014 13:33:56 GMT
Mr. Sombrero Sunshine is skeptical of Annie's motivations regarding Jeanne. Judging by her face he might have a point. I wish I knew with certainty, what point he's actually making. But this is GC, so it's rather silly of me to expect certainty. I keep thinking there's a hidden context between Jeanne and Annie, and Ankou's statement merely adds fuel to the speculation fire. Hmm. What would a Speculation Elemental be like? |
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Post by crater on Apr 4, 2014 13:47:29 GMT
Ann just wants to feast on Jeanne's soul is all
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Post by Ophel on Apr 4, 2014 14:32:52 GMT
The look on Annie's face gives the vibes of Annie's anger towards te psychopomps. Do you guys think she's still not over that? Is she thinking about how she may not want to be a psychopomp because she still kinda has some resentment towards then? Edit: Also, guess I was wrong about the chapter icon coming from Mort's back story. But the I guess that happened a few pages back.  |
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Post by aaroncampbell on Apr 4, 2014 15:03:15 GMT
So here's a question that I only just realized; apologies if it was discussed last week but if so, I missed it. How is it that Annie was unaware of the final records procedure? She accompanied many of the psychopomps on their visits at Good Hope; wouldn't she have seen something? I thought Martin the burned boy would give us the answer since she was there for the whole process, but then I checked and of course Tom, being the tease he is, breaks the narrative right at that point Perhaps the "final records procedure" happens on the other side of the door and the psychopomps take the person to an interview room or something? It could be that as a child, Annie only ever saw them going through a door. Maybe there was a bit of censorship in play (not about death so much, but about whatever the people had experienced in their lives), or privacy concerns, or simply that they may not be as candid with a cute little not-quite-aware-of-the-situation child in the room? (Or disturbingly all-too-aware-child, as is sometimes the case with her) |
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Post by Eversist on Apr 4, 2014 16:26:24 GMT
Yeah, I think the final records were probably taken within the ROTD itself. Considering Mort was taken to the ROTD almost immediately after he passed away, I think that the psychopomps probably do the same.
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Post by Tenjen on Apr 4, 2014 16:34:07 GMT
Has Tom ever mentioned Dullahan? I remember a answer long ago where he mentioned such psychopomps were around as well but my memory is very blurry
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Post by King Mir on Apr 4, 2014 16:40:58 GMT
Hmm. What would a Speculation Elemental be like? An unfinished book by a good aurthor? A boggart? The monster under the bed? |
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Post by whitehawk on Apr 4, 2014 16:50:14 GMT
I wonder if Antimony becoming a psychopomp would mean she didn't have to die, or whether she has to die before becoming a psychopomp. On the other hand, if she did become an official psychopomp, what would be the population she picks up? Would it be Gunnerkrigg Court people?
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Post by smurfton on Apr 4, 2014 17:51:37 GMT
Hmm. What would a Speculation Elemental be like? I hear that they're also known as "forums." On the other hand, if she did become an official psychopomp, what would be the population she picks up? Would it be Gunnerkrigg Court people? Antimony seems to be pretty well set up for taking special cases. (After healing them, of course.) |
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Post by sniperserpent on Apr 4, 2014 18:48:36 GMT
Hmm. What would a Speculation Elemental be like? I'd imagine it would be similar to a surprise elemental. |
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Post by GK Sierra on Apr 4, 2014 21:18:55 GMT
Interesting. Antimony seems to be repulsed by the idea that she is a psychopomp and wishes to see herself only as a medium.
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Post by nero on Apr 4, 2014 22:50:58 GMT
I wonder what are the benefits that psychopomps receive from guiding someone?
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Post by keef on Apr 4, 2014 22:51:36 GMT
Hmm. What would a Speculation Elemental be like? I'd imagine it would be similar to a surprise elemental. Nobody would see her coming. I wonder what are the benefits that psychopomps receive from guiding someone? |
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Post by ctso74 on Apr 4, 2014 23:26:40 GMT
How is it that Annie was unaware of the final records procedure? She accompanied many of the psychopomps on their visits at Good Hope; wouldn't she have seen something? When Count Fakeula decided on Mort going to the Court, it almost seemed like the ROTD was some kind of management over the psychopomps. But with Ankou saying, "Technically a programme initiated by the ROTD", perhaps the Count was acting more as an arbitrator, between Ankou and the ancient Jones. Maybe, the psychopomps and ROTD are separate entities. Less redundant departments, and more semi-isolated unions with overlapping spheres of interest. The ROTD is the newer Model-T, while the psychopomps are the older and more reliable carriage. |
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Post by freeformline on Apr 5, 2014 0:18:19 GMT
Her desire to 'help' Jeanne is going to become an obsession at this rate. She'll lose sleep over it, and start doubting her own abilities. Thank you for such an excellent description of college. If your prediction is anything to go off of, guiding Jeanne will be Antimony's Master's thesis/PhD dissertation. |
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Post by Lightice on Apr 5, 2014 11:45:34 GMT
When Count Fakeula decided on Mort going to the Court, it almost seemed like the ROTD was some kind of management over the psychopomps. But with Ankou saying, "Technically a programme initiated by the ROTD", perhaps the Count was acting more as an arbitrator, between Ankou and the ancient Jones. Maybe, the psychopomps and ROTD are separate entities. Less redundant departments, and more semi-isolated unions with overlapping spheres of interest. The ROTD is the newer Model-T, while the psychopomps are the older and more reliable carriage. The two seem to deal with overlapping but distinct client groups. The Psychopomps guide the dead into the Ether, unless they don't wish to go, in which case they fall under the RotD's purview, as they are the managers of the restless dead who stay connected to the world of the living, and possibly also responsible for the upkeep of the various afterlives that prepare the dead into accepting that they've passed on. I don't know if either of them could be considered the older; there must have been reluctant dead ever since there's been humans, I'd imagine. |
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Post by keef on Apr 5, 2014 18:35:34 GMT
Has Tom ever mentioned Dullahan? I remember a answer long ago where he mentioned such psychopomps were around as well but my memory is very blurry I wonder what are the benefits that psychopomps receive from guiding someone? the only answer that shines some light on this: Q:Why wasn't that remnant of Surma deserving of a psychopomp? A:Because that's not what they want |
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Post by smurfton on Apr 7, 2014 7:46:46 GMT
When Count Fakeula decided on Mort going to the Court, it almost seemed like the ROTD was some kind of management over the psychopomps. But with Ankou saying, "Technically a programme initiated by the ROTD", perhaps the Count was acting more as an arbitrator, between Ankou and the ancient Jones. Maybe, the psychopomps and ROTD are separate entities. Less redundant departments, and more semi-isolated unions with overlapping spheres of interest. The ROTD is the newer Model-T, while the psychopomps are the older and more reliable carriage. The two seem to deal with overlapping but distinct client groups. The Psychopomps guide the dead into the Ether, unless they don't wish to go, in which case they fall under the RotD's purview, as they are the managers of the restless dead who stay connected to the world of the living, and possibly also responsible for the upkeep of the various afterlives that prepare the dead into accepting that they've passed on. I don't know if either of them could be considered the older; there must have been reluctant dead ever since there's been humans, I'd imagine. Word of Tom is, you cannot choose to stay behind. I fell like they both started at the same time, though |
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