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Post by Weeaboo on Mar 5, 2014 8:00:33 GMT
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Post by Gotolei on Mar 5, 2014 8:02:21 GMT
Mort backstory \o/
Zeppelins..WWII?
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Post by GK Sierra on Mar 5, 2014 8:03:02 GMT
The hint to the time period is probably the Zeppelins.
In all likelihood we're looking at a young Mort, which means our suspicions about his being killed during World War I are correct. Dulce Et Decorm Est and etc.
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Post by sapientcoffee on Mar 5, 2014 8:03:27 GMT
Aw. Yiss.
Backstory time.
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Post by Señor Goose on Mar 5, 2014 8:03:37 GMT
So Tom has all but confirmed that Mort died in WWII, then. Unless we see him as a ghost watching the city or something.
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Post by ebaaus on Mar 5, 2014 8:04:16 GMT
I thought it was the toy gun.
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Post by Lightice on Mar 5, 2014 8:05:32 GMT
As anyone who's read the Chronicles of Narnia can tell, this is from the World War II era. I wonder if the kid is going to be Mort or if he's a red herring. How does a kid die for his country?
Also, I wonder if he ever met Jones in life...
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Post by thedoomblahsong on Mar 5, 2014 8:07:21 GMT
Yeah I think this Mort, circa ~1940. Looks like he's holding a toy gun and helmet. Was Gunnerkrigg a destination for children being sent out of London? Judging by 1100, I think Jones also started working for the court around this time. I hope this chapter won't be too sad  . |
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Post by Señor Goose on Mar 5, 2014 8:08:26 GMT
So Tom has all but confirmed that Mort died in WWII, then. Unless we see him as a ghost watching the city or something. Unless, wait, Germany bombed England during the first World War? They bombed Scotland? Holy shit, I didn't know they could cross the channel, let a lone Britain. Well, silly me! |
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Post by GK Sierra on Mar 5, 2014 8:08:36 GMT
this is from the World War II era. Unless I am very much mistaken, Zeppelins were a World War One only deal. Air transport got much safer after the biplane era and they were largely abandoned in favor of monoplanes for both civilian and military use. |
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Post by sapientcoffee on Mar 5, 2014 8:09:36 GMT
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Post by Señor Goose on Mar 5, 2014 8:10:59 GMT
this is from the World War II era. Unless I am very much mistaken, Zeppelins were a World War One only deal. Air transport got much safer after the biplane era and they were largely abandoned in favor of monoplanes for both civilian and military use. Embarassment intensifies |
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Post by Gotolei on Mar 5, 2014 8:11:00 GMT
WWI then. Assuming Tom won't be pulling one of his usual twists and this is actually Mort's uncle or something. E: wow, the thread's actually moving fast for a change  |
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Post by sapientcoffee on Mar 5, 2014 8:12:04 GMT
Aw. Yiss. Backstory time. Unless, wait, Germany bombed England during the first World War? They bombed Scotland? Holy shit, I didn't know they could cross the channel, let a lone Britain. Well, silly me! And yet, somehow, still backstory time! Unless you didn't mean to quote me. |
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Post by GK Sierra on Mar 5, 2014 8:12:52 GMT
Unless I am very much mistaken, Zeppelins were a World War One only deal. Air transport got much safer after the biplane era and they were largely abandoned in favor of monoplanes for both civilian and military use. Embarassment intensifies Maybe not- they could also be barrage balloons. In fact the shape looks pretty similar, and those WERE used in WW2, and to deny enemy fighter airspace above London in particular. I could very well be wrong.  |
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Post by Señor Goose on Mar 5, 2014 8:13:38 GMT
Unless, wait, Germany bombed England during the first World War? They bombed Scotland? Holy shit, I didn't know they could cross the channel, let a lone Britain. Well, silly me! And yet, somehow, still backstory time! Unless you didn't mean to quote me. I went to quote myself, but I clicked on the wrong post. |
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Post by thedoomblahsong on Mar 5, 2014 8:13:56 GMT
Wikipedia says the Germans conducted air raids on England during WWI as well, so I'm changing my mind. I thought air raids had to mean WWII. Btw, I'm pretty sure the word that the boy is obscuring is London, eh?
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Post by wombat on Mar 5, 2014 8:16:44 GMT
I assumed that Tom's comment was kind of meant tongue-in-cheek in that the whole page clearly gave clues to the time period, but I can see how it could be interpreted as either WWI or WWII. The poster reminded me of the type of messages we learned about circulating during the time of WWII in my history class in high school; I tried to find something like what we were shown, but the best I could find was this ("There had been so many posters that told parents, 'Your Children are Safer in the Country.'"), said in relation to the time of WWII. As for the aircraft being different at that time than what's shown, maybe it's that the propaganda is using a bit of outdated imagery? Something that will stir up memories in the parents, even if it's not exactly what'd be expected to happen this time. |
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Post by sapientcoffee on Mar 5, 2014 8:17:28 GMT
And yet, somehow, still backstory time! Unless you didn't mean to quote me. I went to quote myself, but I clicked on the wrong post. S'all good. I was thinking the poster said WWII, but the zeppelins said WWI. Then I remembered there was also bombing in WWI and then GKSierra pointed out they could be barrage balloons/blimps and I've not a clue. Pretty sure about flashback time though. :-) |
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Post by Señor Goose on Mar 5, 2014 8:18:07 GMT
Wikipedia says the Germans conducted air raids on England during WWI as well, so I'm changing my mind. I thought air raids had to mean WWII. Btw, I'm pretty sure the word that the boy is obscuring is London, eh? It must be, 'town' is too short. It's weird how Tom chose to place the kid there. It's almost as if he's trying to distance the action of the comic from any real-life location. Unless I'm reading too much into it. |
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Post by Weeaboo on Mar 5, 2014 8:19:45 GMT
Wait, if I may say, the poster says to send your children out of London...this would perchance mean World War I indeed.
Air-bombing was quite popular during that war.
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Post by thedoomblahsong on Mar 5, 2014 8:22:00 GMT
Unless, wait, Germany bombed England during the first World War? They bombed Scotland? Holy shit, I didn't know they could cross the channel, let a lone Britain. Well, silly me! The Germans bombed Scotland? Where are you getting that? Wikipedia doesn't mention it. |
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Post by kuruko on Mar 5, 2014 8:22:46 GMT
Zeppelins were WW1. Look at the helmet he's holding. That's a British helmet used in the war(or something similar). Also what he's wearing relates to that time period.
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Post by Señor Goose on Mar 5, 2014 8:23:18 GMT
]Maybe not- they could also be barrage balloons. See, that's what I was thinking- I knew that they had balloons during WWII because of that episode of Doctor Who. I'm leaning towards WWI now. Just look at that kid. Even from the back he's a posterchild of Edwardian fashion. |
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Post by philman on Mar 5, 2014 8:24:05 GMT
Those are Barrage balloons not Zeppelins, and although they were used in WW1, they are most clearly associated with WW2 and were far more common.
The evacuation of children mentioned in the poster though is definitely WW2, in WW1 the UK was too far from the front lines and not bombed very often so evacuation was never initiated. Evacuation was only really initiated in France and Belgium where most of the fighting was.
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Post by Señor Goose on Mar 5, 2014 8:24:43 GMT
Unless, wait, Germany bombed England during the first World War? They bombed Scotland? Holy shit, I didn't know they could cross the channel, let a lone Britain. Well, silly me! The Germans bombed Scotland? Where are you getting that? Wikipedia doesn't mention it.  the link is broken because there's a fucking comma in the URL. Anyway, the wikipedia page for German strategic bombing during WWI shows a picture of a plaque in Edinburgh. |
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Post by GK Sierra on Mar 5, 2014 8:26:24 GMT
Hopefully Friday will give a new piece of evidence that seals the deal.
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Post by thedoomblahsong on Mar 5, 2014 8:27:31 GMT
What's with the giant hat person in the poster? Is that a child running to their mother?
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Post by philman on Mar 5, 2014 8:27:42 GMT
Zeppelins were WW1. Look at the helmet he's holding. That's a British helmet used in the war(or something similar). Also what he's wearing relates to that time period. Why would a child have a militry issue helmet in WW1? More likely he'd have his grandad's old one from the previous war. The helmet is also similar to the ones used by the Home Guard and the air raid wardens, they even had theirs painted white so they could be seen easier among the smoke of the bombs, such as the fellows in this photo here: www.bbc.co.uk/history/topics/civil_defence_ww2 |
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Post by Chancellor on Mar 5, 2014 8:28:41 GMT
The propaganda urging children to be sent to the countryside rings more of WWII. Perhaps Mort died in the Blitzkrieg?
Unless this IS a red herring, and maybe the boy will die in the Blitzkrieg before/after meeting Mort himself, or the person that eventually became Mort.
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