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Post by Señor Goose on Dec 5, 2013 18:57:56 GMT
Let's quantize what the forum thinks.
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Post by KartoffelnMcNugget on Dec 5, 2013 19:03:13 GMT
50 bucks to number 2!
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Post by Señor Goose on Dec 5, 2013 19:39:36 GMT
The poll closes in 12.5 hours guys! Vote up!
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Post by zimmyzims on Dec 5, 2013 19:43:54 GMT
I could bet my house on number 2, if I had a one.
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Post by GK Sierra on Dec 5, 2013 20:01:36 GMT
I wish I could pick 2 and 3 at the same time.
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Post by sapientcoffee on Dec 5, 2013 20:05:12 GMT
Proboards polling is odd. Or can you choose to let people change their minds?
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Post by Señor Goose on Dec 5, 2013 20:06:54 GMT
Proboards polling is odd. Or can you choose to let people change their minds? I don't think so, sorry.
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Post by freeformline on Dec 5, 2013 20:12:05 GMT
I voted for two, but I do believe number four was the best option.
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Post by sapientcoffee on Dec 5, 2013 20:12:29 GMT
Proboards polling is odd. Or can you choose to let people change their minds? I don't think so, sorry. Oh, no. I was asking because out of curiosity I tried it and you can, which I've not run into with polls. So I was wondering if that was an option while setting up the poll. (My immediate impulse after, "Huh, that's odd" is to mess with things.)
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Post by stef1987 on Dec 5, 2013 20:16:16 GMT
Kindof limited answers, I mean the 3th one isn't really an answer, I mean if she's jealous, there's a reason why she's jealous, which should be the actual 3th option. If she ran away because she's afraid of losing her friend, that's kind of jealousy as well, though I suppose what you mean by option 3 is that Annie has a crush on Kat.
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Post by Xan on Dec 5, 2013 20:25:26 GMT
I believe that it's a blend of all of the 4.
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Post by Gulby on Dec 5, 2013 20:29:32 GMT
I voted for afraid to lose her friend.
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Post by atteSmythe on Dec 5, 2013 20:44:43 GMT
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Post by crater on Dec 5, 2013 20:57:36 GMT
hope it's homophobia just because of the drama it would create. Doubt it though because of Jones (Jones saves the day yet again)
though more realistically Ann probably ran away because
1. afraid of losing best good friend 2. she obviously doesn't want to "grow up" and deal with a real romance
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Post by Gotolei on Dec 5, 2013 23:10:35 GMT
^_^ Add another for #2, because it's probably going to be some completely different thing that nobody guessed anyway. That aside, it's the most sensible of them. Most likely? Who knows (My immediate impulse after, "Huh, that's odd" is to mess with things.) This. So much this.
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Post by todd on Dec 5, 2013 23:14:22 GMT
While I think the most likely reason is a fear that Kat will spend more time with Paz than with her, I couldn't resist imagining another answer - though too meta to be probable.
Annie fears that the introduction of Kat and Paz's romance will lead to a shift in focus around Kat and Paz at her expense, that they'll replace her as the leads and that she'll be reduced to a subordinate character at best, written out at worst (and with Paz replacing her in those Treatises at the end of each volume as the representative of Nature alongside Kat as the representative of Science).
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Post by Tobu on Dec 5, 2013 23:23:53 GMT
Two through four are all valid: afraid of losing her friend, jealous of the time spent with Paz, and just finding an elsewhere to be during public displays of affection.
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Post by Tobu on Dec 5, 2013 23:40:30 GMT
Also, it's possible to change one's mind: uncheck then check.
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Post by chaosvii on Dec 6, 2013 1:32:47 GMT
In so much as "losing her friend" is "losing the time & emotional support she's come to rely on with the only friend she ever kept that never wanted to kill her (other than Mort)" and not "losing her status as main babe in Kat's book" I'm saying #2 rather than #3 #3 is so broad that it could encompass all the other ones (self-hatred sparked by feelings of jealousy, losing her BFFness in Kat's eyes, or... ok I guess I can't really spin that last one.) Thing is about Annie is that she's really slow to change, especially when compared to Kat. She might be feeling that strain right now, things are changing too quickly and Annie still wants to be the little adventurer she was with Kat, but Kat is dating now, and Annie can't ignore how this is completely different from how things used to be.
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Post by hifranc on Dec 6, 2013 22:46:34 GMT
I think that several things are at play:
Normal teenage stuff: 1) Afraid of losing Kat as a friend. 2) Jealous that it seems that Kat find dates with ease when she can't. 3) Feeling guilty about not supporting Kat in her new relationship. 4) Feeling guilty because she realises how much she hurt Kat when ran into the forest.
Stuff that only pertains to Annie: 5) Her flame heritage means that she has a small number of intense relationships meaning that she doesn't really have much in the way of people to turn to when things feel threatening to her. 6) An indirect result of Annie's heritage means that she didn't get to socialise with [living and well] people of her own age so feels even more lost.
{edited to add points 3&4}
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Post by Gotolei on Dec 6, 2013 23:22:41 GMT
Ok, Proboards is just weird.. First place bar is yellow? I thought it was universally blue >:?
Blue, red, yellow, green..at least that's what I remember from psx multiplayer games.
Or if it's gold, then what's cyan supposed to be?
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Post by SilverbackRon on Dec 7, 2013 3:50:24 GMT
Let's quantize what the forum thinks. Oh crud, I missed my chance to vote. All that stupid "going to work" thing. Oh well, I would have voted #2 "Afraid of losing her friend" anyhow. Interesting to see that is the clear winner of opinion.
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Post by hifranc on Dec 7, 2013 7:25:15 GMT
I realised last night, just as I was dozing off, that there's another reason (or two) of why Annie would have run away. To clarify I believe that she's feeling all of the above.
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Post by warrl on Dec 9, 2013 5:02:41 GMT
I just thought of something a little bit ago that fits best in this thread... First, Annie is handling this much better than she handled the previous time when it seemed that romantic stuff had snuck up on her from an unexpected direction. Second, let's put both Kat and PazKat aside for the moment and look at Annie. At what she is. At what romance and all that boy-girl stuff means to her, personally, now. In case you've forgotten: it means DEATH. Not for everyone. Just for her - and her mother, the only person she's ever been really close to besides Kat. It might seem (emphasis on seem) an easy solution to just swear off romance forever. Or perhaps she found some other way to be at peace with her own peculiar reality. Only now another possibility has been put in front of her. Not as an immediate option, but as something that might happen in the future, where she can have a romantic and even sexual relationship without having to face the choice her mother made. And as another complicating factor, the girl who put that possibility in front of her - and the girl who, of everyone she knows, would probably be the safest to begin exploring it with to find out if she's even actually interested in that direction - is, at least temporarily, off limits. All of a sudden, very difficult and painful issues that she thought were resolved, have to be revisited.
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Post by zimmyzims on Dec 9, 2013 13:26:02 GMT
Let's quantize what the forum thinks. Oh crud, I missed my chance to vote. All that stupid "going to work" thing. Oh dear, oh dear, oh dear.... you have to cut with that.
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Post by seimsisk on Dec 9, 2013 15:17:45 GMT
(...) (and with Paz replacing her in those Treatises at the end of each volume as the representative of Nature alongside Kat as the representative of Science). This is good, Paz does represent the Nature in that she works with animals and biology whereas Kat works with robots and mechanics. Put this way, it's suddenly clear that Annie doesn't represent Nature at all, what she does represent is Ether, and those are not the same thing. Come to think of it, the second thing Annie ever does (after befriending a shadow) is to build a robot. Though she is on the side of the forest in constrat with Kat, at the same time she doesn't really belong in the forest, not the same way that Kat belongs one-hundred-percent-no-doubts to the Court. Remember how Smitty knew what the Chickcharney was and Annie didn't? Annie doesn't even know much about the forest even after living there. On the other hand Annie surely does not belong in the Court. She is something in the middle, and that's part of her importance I guess. And it helps explain why she is afraid that Kat will leave her for someone who actually does belong in the Court. But it's ok because they're gonna unite forest and court before the book ends, right? Right?
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Post by zimmyhoo on Dec 9, 2013 21:38:32 GMT
(...) (and with Paz replacing her in those Treatises at the end of each volume as the representative of Nature alongside Kat as the representative of Science). This is good, Paz does represent the Nature in that she works with animals and biology whereas Kat works with robots and mechanics. Put this way, it's suddenly clear that Annie doesn't represent Nature at all, what she does represent is Ether, and those are not the same thing. Come to think of it, the second thing Annie ever does (after befriending a shadow) is to build a robot. Though she is on the side of the forest in constrat with Kat, at the same time she doesn't really belong in the forest, not the same way that Kat belongs one-hundred-percent-no-doubts to the Court. Remember how Smitty knew what the Chickcharney was and Annie didn't? Annie doesn't even know much about the forest even after living there. On the other hand Annie surely does not belong in the Court. She is something in the middle, and that's part of her importance I guess. And it helps explain why she is afraid that Kat will leave her for someone who actually does belong in the Court. But it's ok because they're gonna unite forest and court before the book ends, right? Right? Actually, I'm pretty certain that the dead opposite will happen. Anyways, c-c-c-c-called it.
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Post by zimmyzims on Dec 9, 2013 22:01:31 GMT
(...) (and with Paz replacing her in those Treatises at the end of each volume as the representative of Nature alongside Kat as the representative of Science). This is good, Paz does represent the Nature in that she works with animals and biology whereas Kat works with robots and mechanics. Put this way, it's suddenly clear that Annie doesn't represent Nature at all, what she does represent is Ether, and those are not the same thing. Come to think of it, the second thing Annie ever does (after befriending a shadow) is to build a robot. Though she is on the side of the forest in constrat with Kat, at the same time she doesn't really belong in the forest, not the same way that Kat belongs one-hundred-percent-no-doubts to the Court. Remember how Smitty knew what the Chickcharney was and Annie didn't? Annie doesn't even know much about the forest even after living there. On the other hand Annie surely does not belong in the Court. She is something in the middle, and that's part of her importance I guess. And it helps explain why she is afraid that Kat will leave her for someone who actually does belong in the Court. But it's ok because they're gonna unite forest and court before the book ends, right? Right? Yeeeeah, riiight!
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Post by philman on Dec 9, 2013 22:35:41 GMT
(...) (and with Paz replacing her in those Treatises at the end of each volume as the representative of Nature alongside Kat as the representative of Science). This is good, Paz does represent the Nature in that she works with animals and biology whereas Kat works with robots and mechanics. Put this way, it's suddenly clear that Annie doesn't represent Nature at all, what she does represent is Ether, and those are not the same thing. Come to think of it, the second thing Annie ever does (after befriending a shadow) is to build a robot. Though she is on the side of the forest in constrat with Kat, at the same time she doesn't really belong in the forest, not the same way that Kat belongs one-hundred-percent-no-doubts to the Court. Remember how Smitty knew what the Chickcharney was and Annie didn't? Annie doesn't even know much about the forest even after living there. On the other hand Annie surely does not belong in the Court. She is something in the middle, and that's part of her importance I guess. And it helps explain why she is afraid that Kat will leave her for someone who actually does belong in the Court. But it's ok because they're gonna unite forest and court before the book ends, right? Right? IF by "unite" you mean "burn until both are mixed ashes" then sure!
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Post by warrl on Dec 10, 2013 4:36:02 GMT
But really, they are very much alike. Down to having possibly-supernatural talents that help them in their respective scientific fields, and communicating with non-human intelligences in the course of their work.
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