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Post by GK Sierra on Sept 13, 2013 7:11:28 GMT
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Post by zimmyzims on Sept 13, 2013 7:13:32 GMT
Goddamit, you won me by some 1 second or so... ...which is probably because I used the last sentence of the page, while you used the second to first, cheater!  |
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Post by Daedalus on Sept 13, 2013 7:14:33 GMT
Hmmm...this raises the old question of whether Coyote divided the two sides to prolong the fighting or end it...
Always interesting to view old issues in a new light.
And really, what's the worst that could happen from here?
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Post by sapientcoffee on Sept 13, 2013 7:15:06 GMT
It's ok Tom, the server just fears Friday the 13th.
And I think Coyote always chooses interference just because he likes interfering, not based on what outcome he wants. He makes me think of someone who wants ALL the endings in a choose-your-own-adventure book.
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Post by zimmyzims on Sept 13, 2013 7:18:53 GMT
So, interesting news here... the life of the Seed Bismuth is also tied to the court, while he forest has become its enemy of a sort. And this growth of the court, which makes the Seed Bismuth extremely happy since it is its life, is also the original reason to the fight between the court and the forest. It must have been quite a victory to the forest, and Coyote, that the Seed Bismuth has been left on their side, in ruins, basically nearly dead, but to their demise the court continued growing on the other side even detached from the Seed Bismuth.
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Post by GK Sierra on Sept 13, 2013 7:19:53 GMT
Goddamit, you won me by some 1 second or so... 12 to be precise.
Auto-refresh is pretty cool.
So apparently the Court and the Forest really did get into it back in the day. The Court is expanding to fill some kind of desire of man to become god, and Coyote has created the Annan Waters to contain it. Question is, why was Jeanne put to death? Were the earlier tenants (Steadmann, etc.) trying to prevent it's spread too? Or was it just wrapping up some loose ends with what they perceived as a traitor? (If that's the case, Annie should watch who she talks to about Kamlen) |
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Post by zimmyzims on Sept 13, 2013 7:20:33 GMT
I think that this "hey, Annie, 'm the Seed Bismuth, come here, I want to tell you everything" is suddenly a very plausible scenario, since the SB is now isolated there behind the enemy lines and must see Annie as an ally since she comes from the court. Let's face it, she is quite likely the only one from the court that SB has seen since Ys drove the humans out of the forest.
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Post by arf on Sept 13, 2013 7:21:45 GMT
Psst! Annie, your scar is starting to show!
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Post by arf on Sept 13, 2013 7:24:22 GMT
Also, I don't think you should bring this one back home.
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Post by zimmyzims on Sept 13, 2013 7:25:20 GMT
Goddamit, you won me by some 1 second or so... 12 to be precise.
Auto-refresh is pretty cool.
So apparently the Court and the Forest really did get into it back in the day. The Court is expanding to fill some kind of desire of man to become god, and Coyote has created the Annan Waters to contain it. Question is, why was Jeanne put to death? Were the earlier tenants (Steadmann, etc.) trying to prevent it's spread too? Or was it just wrapping up some loose ends with what they perceived as a traitor? (If that's the case, Annie should watch who she talks to about Kamlen) Oh, 12 seconds then... that's practically an eternity. Anyway, call me naive, but I trust that it is how they let us believe originally, i.e. that they wanted protection from forest in order to grow in peace. You can see that it has paid well and the results are there: the court is now bigger and possibly also mightier than the forest, and they no longer have to be so afraid of the forest. If this continues, then maybe they can reach their goal of becoming God, or at least to find absolute safety against the forest, or even defeat the forest for good. |
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Post by zimmyzims on Sept 13, 2013 7:26:39 GMT
Psst! Annie, your scar is starting to show! Good notice! This means she is going etheric now, doesn't it? |
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Post by porcupineadvocate on Sept 13, 2013 7:29:13 GMT
I still think this would be much more satisfying if it turns out to be Coyote manipulating a thoroughly credulous Annie, rather than it being played straight.
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Post by coryn11 on Sept 13, 2013 7:30:33 GMT
I really like the way the panels at the top are literally being erased as it bleeds into the ether.
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Post by Stately Buff Cookie on Sept 13, 2013 7:36:03 GMT
I've had this feeling for the past several pages, but I keep feeling like Annie is going to end up having to throw down with this spirit. I couldn't really say why I feel this way, but it does make me nervous.
As was pointed out, Annie's scar is showing. We've officially crossed the ether barrier at some point, and shit going down usually happens shortly after that. ARF might be right. I think the seed might want to go to the court pretty badly at this news, but taking it might not be the best of ideas. So many things could go hilariously wrong.
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Post by GK Sierra on Sept 13, 2013 7:37:05 GMT
I'm also curious why this thing is hanging out on the Forest's side. Was it caught unprepared? Trapped?
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Post by sidhekin on Sept 13, 2013 7:46:49 GMT
It could be SB was also divided, and this is just what remained with the ruins.
Or it could be that the ruins were where it all started, and it just so happens that that point ended up on the forest side of the divide. (Dare I draw a parallel to the Serbian cradle of Kosovo? Seems I do ...)
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Post by Stately Buff Cookie on Sept 13, 2013 8:01:55 GMT
This is just the sort of thing everyone will think you're crazy for preparing for.
Should have asked Jones and Eggs what to do if she were to ever find the Seed Bismuth (or any other crazy myth among myth figure). Sure, they'd ask why she really believes such a thing would happen, but who's laughing now?
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Post by arf on Sept 13, 2013 8:28:33 GMT
It could be SB was also divided, and this is just what remained with the ruins. That... and the 'angel' look of SB, makes me wonder off in few directions... ... and, ooh! Just dawned on me what the chemical abbreviation Sb is! |
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Post by Purgatorius on Sept 13, 2013 8:44:27 GMT
She has the scar on her face (she has the scar on her face).
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Post by artezzatrigger on Sept 13, 2013 8:44:39 GMT
Under the assumption that this spirit is genuine:
Remember that theory awhile back that people had about the Court being sentient? What if when the forest and court were divided, that sentience was also divided? That would explain why the SB was unaware that the court was still growing on the other side, because its no longer the one in charge of it.Edit: Nevermind, missed a post or two...I feel stupid now  |
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Post by zimmyzims on Sept 13, 2013 9:20:22 GMT
It could be SB was also divided, and this is just what remained with the ruins. Or it could be that the ruins were where it all started, and it just so happens that that point ended up on the forest side of the divide. (Dare I draw a parallel to the Serbian cradle of Kosovo? Seems I do ...) I intuitively have assumed this scenario. |
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Post by zimmyzims on Sept 13, 2013 9:26:38 GMT
This casts a little new light on the Coyote's division, because at least from Seed Bismuth's point of view the sole reason was to separate the humans from the forest and, one gets the sense, the court from the Seed Bismuth. Thus, not necessarily so much a peacemaking move than a war manoeuvre. Nothing definitive, but I think SB's story suggests that. While here, Coyote gives an entirely different, pacifist feel to his move. |
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Post by wanderer on Sept 13, 2013 13:17:15 GMT
Um... question. There are two people talking in the final panel, and one of them is not the Seed Bismuth, judging from the speech bubbles. Nor, from the nature of the dialogue in those bubbles, is it Annie. So... who is it?
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Post by exdevlin on Sept 13, 2013 13:24:44 GMT
Um... question. There are two people talking in the final panel, and one of them is not the Seed Bismuth, judging from the speech bubbles. Nor, from the nature of the dialogue in those bubbles, is it Annie. So... who is it? Pretty sure that's still Annie talking, but I guess you don't really need to use your mouth when you're in the aether, hence you don't really need to have the tail-ends of the speech bubbles (this is just my intuitive guess). I find it hilarious that in Coyote's version of the story, he used his "mighty paw to score the earth" to create the divide, whereas in SB's version of the story, Coyote ungracefully chomped his way through the earth. With SB's response to Annie's revelation that the Court is now gigantic, I am inclined to think that SB's the real deal. She's actually happy that her "spawn" have continued growing. Though, I'm starting to wonder if we ever posted any speculation on the geographical layout of the GK universe. If it's still growing, it must be surrounded by tons of empty terrain. Do the people running the Court even know how to halt the growth? Are they just doomed to forever be growing until they take over the island? Do they have an island of their own that they're limited to? Has anyone ever journeyed to the ends of the divide, or does it just split an entire island in half and that's that? |
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Post by tustin2121 on Sept 13, 2013 13:26:41 GMT
Um... question. There are two people talking in the final panel, and one of them is not the Seed Bismuth, judging from the speech bubbles. Nor, from the nature of the dialogue in those bubbles, is it Annie. So... who is it? Why couldn't it be Annie? Isn't the color Annie's color? It's Annie informing SB how it lives on on the other side. |
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Post by ctso74 on Sept 13, 2013 14:02:25 GMT
The Seed Bismuth may be the etheric idea of "Order from Disorder". If it started causing Order in humans' minds and thoughts, some etheric beings could be rightfully threatened by it. I wonder if it is geographically anchored. If not, was it a condition of peace for it to be left behind?
I'd love to see what Andrew could do with SB. At the very least, they could make fantastic miniatures!
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Post by wanderer on Sept 13, 2013 14:05:46 GMT
Um... question. There are two people talking in the final panel, and one of them is not the Seed Bismuth, judging from the speech bubbles. Nor, from the nature of the dialogue in those bubbles, is it Annie. So... who is it? Why couldn't it be Annie? Isn't the color Annie's color? It's Annie informing SB how it lives on on the other side. My interpretation of the "you" in "you still grow strong" was a reference to humanity growing strong, not to the seed, which would make no sense coming from Annie. It didn't occur to me that it may be her saying the the seed is still growing across the divide. |
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Post by Eversist on Sept 13, 2013 14:39:01 GMT
Is there a little humanoid figure in there, or are my eyes deceiving me?
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Post by King Mir on Sept 13, 2013 14:56:54 GMT
Is there a little humanoid figure in there, or are my eyes deceiving me? You mean in that tower? I think it's a bell. |
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Post by GK Sierra on Sept 13, 2013 14:57:55 GMT
(Dare I draw a parallel to the Serbian cradle of Kosovo? Seems I do ...) You could also draw a parallel to Kiev, the spiritual birthplace of Russia, which Ukraine took after the USSR broke up. I bet that still burns old Putin something fierce. |
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