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Post by snipertom on Aug 31, 2013 9:52:09 GMT
Had a thought a few days ago...
Why was it that Surma made Annie a wolf toy in particular? Was it coincidence? Did Surma like wolves? Was it because Surma was friends with Ysengrin?
(Less likely) Did Surma anticipate that Annie might run into Reynardine with the wolf toy and thus give him an escape route?
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Post by warrl on Sept 1, 2013 4:15:46 GMT
Well, if Surma had anticipated that Reynardine might become attached to Annie via a toy, she logically would have made a fox rather than a wolf.
Of course, if you look at the level of detail when Reynardine is in pure toy form (or of the doll pre-possession), it could as easily be a fox as a wolf.
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Post by legion on Sept 1, 2013 14:08:25 GMT
Surma had anticipated Tom would want to sell adorable plushies </snark>
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Post by Deleted on Sept 1, 2013 14:44:53 GMT
When you punch »white wolf antimony« into Google, the second result offers a pretty nice explanation. Pure antimony is a white powder, and a grey wolf symbolizes stibnite (antimony ore). On top of that, the alchemists didn't have the firmest grasp of Greek and may have confused »λύκος«, wolf, with »λευκός«, white/bright. www.urth.net/urth/archives/v0024/0082.shtmlUntil now, I didn't even know that antimony was used by the alchemists to purify gold. Considering that the Sun — a common symbol for gold — is closely associated with Annie and the Forest throughout the comic, I feel like I've been missing a huge point! |
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Post by snipertom on Sept 1, 2013 15:28:56 GMT
Annie, Forest, "White Wolf", Sun, Fire, Ysengrin, Surma
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Kat, Court, ??, Moon, Water, Rey, The Donlans
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Post by GK Sierra on Sept 1, 2013 17:33:11 GMT
Surma had anticipated Tom would want to sell adorable plushies </snark> I think you forgot your open tag, which means I have to interpret that statement literally  |
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Post by snipertom on Sept 1, 2013 20:24:04 GMT
Surma had anticipated Tom would want to sell adorable plushies </snark> Well, she is magical I guess ! Perhaps we are all part of Surma's scheme  |
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Post by snipertom on Sept 1, 2013 20:24:42 GMT
Well, if Surma had anticipated that Reynardine might become attached to Annie via a toy, she logically would have made a fox rather than a wolf. Of course, if you look at the level of detail when Reynardine is in pure toy form (or of the doll pre-possession), it could as easily be a fox as a wolf. Surmirony at work? |
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Post by GK Sierra on Sept 2, 2013 0:27:38 GMT
Well, if Surma had anticipated that Reynardine might become attached to Annie via a toy, she logically would have made a fox rather than a wolf. Of course, if you look at the level of detail when Reynardine is in pure toy form (or of the doll pre-possession), it could as easily be a fox as a wolf. Surmirony at work? I'm still holding on to the time travel theory. |
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Post by snipertom on Sept 2, 2013 8:22:34 GMT
I'm still holding on to the time travel theory.  SURMA IS ANTIMONY! LITERALLY IN MORE WAYS THAN ONE |
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Post by The Anarch on Sept 3, 2013 6:32:44 GMT
She's her own grandpa?
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Post by GK Sierra on Sept 3, 2013 6:50:14 GMT
Something like that. I would say that she is herself, but Surma and Antimony are clearly two different people instead of one person stuck in a time loop. |
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Post by snipertom on Sept 3, 2013 19:47:20 GMT
Something like that. I would say that she is herself, but Surma and Antimony are clearly two different people instead of one person stuck in a time loop. LIES she gets a perm for her birthday then develops a very unseemly crush on Eggers |
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Post by The Anarch on Sept 4, 2013 2:08:56 GMT
Something like that. I would say that she is herself, but Surma and Antimony are clearly two different people instead of one person stuck in a time loop. LIES she gets a perm for her birthday then develops a very unseemly crush on Eggers It turns out Eggers is also her, with a sex change! And she's also Kat, so she can always have a friend at school! And she's Kat's parents so she can keep up the fiction that Kat is a separate person with parents! And ultimately she is Jones, and she is FOREVER, only she doesn't remember who she was anymore by that point and all of her emotions are gone because she just can't keep up any sort of attachment for all you zombies. |
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Post by Daedalus on Sept 7, 2013 1:32:29 GMT
LIES she gets a perm for her birthday then develops a very unseemly crush on Eggers It turns out Eggers is also her, with a sex change! And she's also Kat, so she can always have a friend at school! And she's Kat's parents so she can keep up the fiction that Kat is a separate person with parents! And ultimately she is Jones, and she is FOREVER, only she doesn't remember who she was anymore by that point and all of her emotions are gone because she just can't keep up any sort of attachment for all you zombies. I do appreciate this reference. Good book, that was. |
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Post by snipertom on Sept 7, 2013 14:36:06 GMT
It turns out Eggers is also her, with a sex change! And she's also Kat, so she can always have a friend at school! And she's Kat's parents so she can keep up the fiction that Kat is a separate person with parents! And ultimately she is Jones, and she is FOREVER, only she doesn't remember who she was anymore by that point and all of her emotions are gone because she just can't keep up any sort of attachment for all you zombies. I do appreciate this reference. Good book, that was. Surmantimony is pretty powerful |
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Post by philman on Sept 7, 2013 16:06:16 GMT
It turns out Eggers is also her, with a sex change! And she's also Kat, so she can always have a friend at school! And she's Kat's parents so she can keep up the fiction that Kat is a separate person with parents! And ultimately she is Jones, and she is FOREVER, only she doesn't remember who she was anymore by that point and all of her emotions are gone because she just can't keep up any sort of attachment for all you zombies. I do appreciate this reference. Good book, that was. Which book is that? It rings a bell and I'm sure I've read it but can't remember which one it is. Personally I thought of the single electron theory first: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/One-electron_universe |
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Post by The Anarch on Sept 7, 2013 16:29:17 GMT
Which book is that? It rings a bell and I'm sure I've read it but can't remember which one it is. Not a book but a short story, -All You Zombies- by Heinlein. |
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Post by philman on Sept 8, 2013 7:56:02 GMT
Which book is that? It rings a bell and I'm sure I've read it but can't remember which one it is. Not a book but a short story, -All You Zombies- by Heinlein. Oh ok, not the one I was thinking of, but looks like an interesting story nonetheless. I was thinking more along the lines of every person being the same being, traveling through time at the points of birth/conception and death. Hence the comparison with the single time travelling electron theory of Feynman. |
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Post by snipertom on Sept 8, 2013 21:51:42 GMT
Oh ok, not the one I was thinking of, but looks like an interesting story nonetheless. I was thinking more along the lines of every person being the same being, traveling through time at the points of birth/conception and death. Hence the comparison with the single time travelling electron theory of Feynman. It was on Dinosaur comics the other day? www.qwantz.com/index.php?comic=2472 |
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Post by philman on Sept 9, 2013 7:32:07 GMT
Oh ok, not the one I was thinking of, but looks like an interesting story nonetheless. I was thinking more along the lines of every person being the same being, traveling through time at the points of birth/conception and death. Hence the comparison with the single time travelling electron theory of Feynman. It was on Dinosaur comics the other day? www.qwantz.com/index.php?comic=2472That's more or less what I was thinking of, but I don't read qwantz regularaly unless someone links me to it, so I guess we're both talking from the same source. Ah nevermind, it wasn't the origional point anyway! So anyway, wolf dolls. Have we ever seen Surma's interactions with Ysengrin? We know they knew each other, as Ysengrin mistakes Annie for her the first time they meet. |
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Post by snipertom on Sept 12, 2013 4:44:48 GMT
I don't think we've ever seen Surma & Ys interact, or know anything about what that would have been like?
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SURMA IS ANTIMONY! LITERALLY IN MORE WAYS THAN ONE
