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Post by zimmyzims on Jun 28, 2013 7:01:06 GMT
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Post by ebaaus on Jun 28, 2013 7:04:17 GMT
Sigh...
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Post by TBeholder on Jun 28, 2013 7:05:20 GMT
Well... Everyone dances around their own problems, and all that. Hetty probably is inconvenienced by her place in the pecking order.  |
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Post by GK Sierra on Jun 28, 2013 7:08:43 GMT
Damn. This chick is not healthy to hang around Renard. You need closure, not a tiny psychopathic doll girlfriend.
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Post by philman on Jun 28, 2013 7:11:19 GMT
I'm warming to Hetty I think. In the, she's still evil, but an amusing character to watch sort of way. Although she seems to think the reason for possessing Daniel was to get close to Sivo so Renard could get his body, so Renard obviously doesn't tell everyone about Surma.
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Post by snipertom on Jun 28, 2013 8:25:23 GMT
I'm warming to Hetty I think. In the, she's still evil, but an amusing character to watch sort of way. Although she seems to think the reason for possessing Daniel was to get close to Sivo so Renard could get his body, so Renard obviously doesn't tell everyone about Surma. Or she thinks that getting close to Surma was minor compared with the advantages gained by the body? |
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Post by disarticulatethis on Jun 28, 2013 9:12:17 GMT
Bitch.
(yes, I logged in specifically to provide this detailed creative criticism on Hetty)
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Post by arf on Jun 28, 2013 9:13:09 GMT
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Post by yhbc on Jun 28, 2013 12:30:19 GMT
Wait a minute - so Daniel Schiff is the ONLY human Renard/Reynardine ever killed.
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Post by crater on Jun 28, 2013 13:09:42 GMT
it literally sounds like Hetty would kill for a powerful body
Renards body was SO POWERFUL
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Post by arf on Jun 28, 2013 13:17:22 GMT
Wait a minute - so Daniel Schiff is the ONLY human Renard/Reynardine ever killed. Yep. Something considered quite out of character. He attempted to take over/kill Annie in the same way but ended up in her stuffed toy wolf and under Annie's control instead. There has been substantial discussion of that incident. We might finally get Rey's take on it... and be none the wiser! |
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Post by ctso74 on Jun 28, 2013 13:45:06 GMT
I bet that was a hell of a fight, especially seeing Sivo wasn't alone. Let's hope we get a peak. I think your link may be wrong. |
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Post by Sivo on Jun 28, 2013 14:05:02 GMT
Looks like I called the hand-waving this page of my namesake's death on last page's comments, right down to the reason:
Sivo's a soldier that Renard won against in a real fight. Comparatively, Mr. Schiff was assassinated.
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Post by TBeholder on Jun 28, 2013 18:36:38 GMT
Wait a minute - so Daniel Schiff is the ONLY human Renard/Reynardine ever killed. Humans are way too amusing to kill them without a very, very good reason. |
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Post by tpman on Jun 29, 2013 4:55:31 GMT
Wait a minute - so Daniel Schiff is the ONLY human Renard/Reynardine ever killed. Humans are way too amusing to kill them without a very, very good reason. I know! You're always setting up some really interesting situations when another Outsider just comes along and levels every mortal in sight. Every. Frickin. Time. I mean if they're so bored why don't they go play soemewhere else? |
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Post by tpman on Jun 29, 2013 5:01:47 GMT
Honestly though, as horrible as Hetty is, she's just what Renard needs right now. Her awfulness is liable to force Renard to confront his feelings and stop moping.
I guess it's also possible that Hetty is trying to get that reaction intentionally, but my money's on her just being awful.
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Post by The Anarch on Jun 29, 2013 5:28:55 GMT
She's putting metaphorical glass fiber on Renard's mental mattress.
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Post by tpman on Jun 30, 2013 18:04:23 GMT
She's putting metaphorical glass fiber on Renard's mental mattress. That is a brilliant(?) analogy. |
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Post by feraldog on Jul 1, 2013 0:20:15 GMT
Comparatively, Mr. Schiff was assassinated. Or a victim of betrayal and highway robbery. |
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Post by cannister on Jul 1, 2013 1:14:00 GMT
You're blowing things out of proportion. Renard just...borrowed his life and then accidentally broke it.
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Post by GK Sierra on Jul 1, 2013 4:05:18 GMT
You're blowing things out of proportion. Renard just...borrowed his life and then accidentally broke it. In very quick succession. 2nd degree murder at least, and that's if he can convince a jury that he didn't know the effects of his powers. ...and also if he can convince them that he's not some wild, collective hallucination. |
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Post by The Anarch on Jul 1, 2013 4:21:40 GMT
If we're talking a trial, doesn't there need to be a jury of his peers? Of which there's really just Coyote and Ysengrin? Yse might vote guilty, but Coyote probably wouldn't, and his vote is much much bigger than Yse's.
Hmm, unless throwing him to the wolves (see what I did there) suited Coyote's purposes better . . .
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Post by avurai on Jul 1, 2013 14:57:31 GMT
If we're talking a trial, doesn't there need to be a jury of his peers? Of which there's really just Coyote and Ysengrin? Yse might vote guilty, but Coyote probably wouldn't, and his vote is much much bigger than Yse's. Hmm, unless throwing him to the wolves (see what I did there) suited Coyote's purposes better . . . Interestingly enough, I could see Ysengrin vouching for Renard and Coyote throwing him under the bus (for the purposes you just mentioned). Ysengrin seemed downright furious when he discovered Coyote knew that Renard had been tricked the entire time and simply let a member of the forest get locked away in the Court. ... Then again, the more I look into Ysengrin's character, the more I begin to realize that it's possible Ysengrin was so furious not that Coyote would do that to a member of the forest, but to a person that Ysengrin had always had lorded over him, and the idea that Coyote would do that to someone he appears to like... That must do a lot to Ysengrin psychologically. He's treated like garbage and has to hear all about how much Coyote wants Renard back, but he had practically orchestrated the whole thing only to rag on Ysengrin about how worthless he is in comparison and practically act like it's his fault. Who knows? Maybe Ysengrin is quite honorable. He's shown lots of hidden depth recently. So long as Coyote doesn't mess around with his mind, he might surprise us. |
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Post by philman on Jul 1, 2013 16:33:07 GMT
If we're talking a trial, doesn't there need to be a jury of his peers? Of which there's really just Coyote and Ysengrin? Yse might vote guilty, but Coyote probably wouldn't, and his vote is much much bigger than Yse's. Hmm, unless throwing him to the wolves (see what I did there) suited Coyote's purposes better . . . Interestingly enough, I could see Ysengrin vouching for Renard and Coyote throwing him under the bus (for the purposes you just mentioned). Ysengrin seemed downright furious when he discovered Coyote knew that Renard had been tricked the entire time and simply let a member of the forest get locked away in the Court. ... Then again, the more I look into Ysengrin's character, the more I begin to realize that it's possible Ysengrin was so furious not that Coyote would do that to a member of the forest, but to a person that Ysengrin had always had lorded over him, and the idea that Coyote would do that to someone he appears to like... That must do a lot to Ysengrin psychologically. He's treated like garbage and has to hear all about how much Coyote wants Renard back, but he had practically orchestrated the whole thing onto to rag on Ysengrin about how worthless he is in comparison and practically act like it's his fault. Who knows? Maybe Ysengrin is quite honorable. He's shown lots of hidden depth recently. So long as Coyote doesn't mess around with his mind, he might surprise us. I think Ysengrin is definitely honourable, although he has some questionable ethics sometimes, not helped by Coyote messing him about the whole time. He serves Coyote because Coyote is vastly more powerful than him, but I think he tries to make Coyote's pranks and devious behaviour into something honourable in his mind. The efforts when Coyote does something against Ysengrin's moral code must be one hell of a wrestle in Ysengrin's mind. |
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Post by zimmyzims on Aug 14, 2013 10:08:31 GMT
I bet that was a hell of a fight, especially seeing Sivo wasn't alone. Let's hope we get a peak. I think your link may be wrong. Thanks, and sorry for noticing this so late, have not been much on computer. Awful mistake, missing the correct strip by a number. Now it's fixed, although not much helping anymore. Thank you for noting it for me, anyway. |
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Post by quinkgirl on Sept 6, 2013 1:00:01 GMT
Hetty's an interesting character. I'm not sure WHAT Ysengrin and Coyote would vote... they're both pretty unpredictable in my eyes. But if Hetty was some sort of person that was from the forest, maybe Ysengrin would think she was a-ok and that Adam deserved it?
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Post by Daedalus on Sept 7, 2013 1:23:28 GMT
It's also more than possible that much of his love for Coyote is artificially induced, either by removal of the bad things Coyote has done, or addition of good memories. Any mental wrestling could also be conveniently deleted from his memories. Ysengrin seems to have a major inferiority complex towards humans, but is honorable at his core, as of the time of the story. Who knows how he was before Coyote showed up. Forced amnesia is really one of the worst things to consider, as our memories largely define our character. #kickthedog |
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