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Post by funkmasterjo on Feb 20, 2013 15:36:57 GMT
Guys, I'm sure Coyote has no great plans, or has thought about it in any strategic way. Why on earth would he be concerned with anything, he's a God. That's why he's always laughing, he has no real worries anywhere. Just things that he feels like doing for his own amusement.
Probably just picked Annie on a spur of the moment brilliance.
Memory wiping that dude must have just suited him.
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Post by eskhn on Feb 20, 2013 16:12:15 GMT
Regardless, I can't wait to see what goes down on Friday. Weekend cliffhanger. Calling it right now. Poor Chuckles. The first word he gets to say all chapter is after getting fired.
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Post by paradosa on Feb 20, 2013 16:26:16 GMT
It's all diplomatic chess = Its all about Reynard and who gets control of him, not about who is best medium for which side. Court decided that it's best to remove Annie from Coyotes reach, despite the fact that she is best choice for medium. If she is not medium or medium in training, she will not attend gatherings when Coyotes visits Court or visit forest, so Coyote can't plot and manipulate her to get Rey back. Annie has such strong connection to Rey and they both will not allow to be separated, and this is headmaster's way to show that to Coyote gunnerkrigg.com/?p=1155 not really wanting to get Reynard under direct control. If Annie wasn't connected to Rey, she would be Court's medium in no time. Both sides basically have cold war and Rey is weapon. They plot and plot and use every chance to use opposing side's plots to their own good. Coyote knew about Surma tricking Rey, but i guess he hoped to use that to turn Rey against humans and Court. There is only one step from love to hate. Now Coyote accepted Courts decision and now has rights to ask something in return Also, I wouldn't be surprised if Court secretly is making weapons to destroy etheric creatures, those stations might be hint.
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Post by Interactive System Error on Feb 20, 2013 16:47:09 GMT
I wonder if it would surprise Coyote if Annie requested Ysengrin to be HER protector while in the forest.
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Post by paradosa on Feb 20, 2013 16:49:10 GMT
No, no, no Coyote IS very good at poker or at least in this Court's and Coyote's game. Only his eyes gives away his real mood.
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Post by TBeholder on Feb 20, 2013 16:50:21 GMT
Coyote is playing the same game as the Headmaster. He is pressing Annie on by making the declaration right on the spot, just as the Headmaster did with Smitty, and at this point I'm practically certain that the two have almost identical motivations: to screw with each other and establish their dominant position. In any case, for the moment: Coyote -- 1 Headmaster -- 0 Not really. You forgot another player, with the best poker face. So unless Jones playing along (which is unlikely, given that her advice was private) for the moment... It's started with Jones being Jonathan's partner, like the previous time. But now he abandoned her to attack Coyote, who immediately threw in with Jones. The result (if Annie accepts): Jones - jackpot: both Mediums are her apprentices, supported by yet another one, as well as their own friends. A large part of the board is clearly aligned with her now. Coyote - small win: he keeps Annie and gets two new playmates. Jonathan - looks like winning something for a moment, but we know the Headmaster was PWN'ed: formally, he controls both Mediums, but this control is tenuous. They already had big secrets from him, and now distrust him more while their autonomy increased; at the same time, the people who would implement said control see his decision as strange and would question anything non-trivial related to this.
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Post by exuberancium on Feb 20, 2013 17:29:33 GMT
At first I though this didn't really make any sense. Then I realized that Coyote doesn't care about having a medium at all. He's just screwing with everyone.
While this is quite the opportunity, you can't exactly make a living off being a Forest medium. I can't see this lasting into her adult years.
EDIT: Wait, what am I talking about? Medium isn't a full time job. Problem solved.
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Post by americonedream on Feb 20, 2013 17:48:54 GMT
At first I though this didn't really make any sense. Then I realized that Coyote doesn't care about having a medium at all. He's just screwing with everyone. While this is quite the opportunity, you can't exactly make a living off being a Forest medium. I can't see this lasting into her adult years. I'd hazard a guess that the Court would still take care of Annie and provide her with housing and food and clothes. Even if she were Medium to the forest, it's still a job that helps the court. Or if Annie lives in the forest, she'd be well taken care of as well, she managed a summer there and can make her own clothes now. So considering that either way, she wouldn't be very far from the forest or court due to the job, she'd have options and wouldn't go without from either side.
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Post by sabriel on Feb 20, 2013 17:48:56 GMT
Somewhere in the back of my mind, I always had a feeling that Annie would eventually be acting as a medium for the forest, officially or not, perhaps solely because of this page. Here, Kat represents the scientific nature of the court, and Annie the mystical nature of the forest, divided by Jeanne/the Annan Waters/the arbitrary differences of the two factions. They are both holding pieces of each side of the Annan Waters, but they are still connected by Annie's hair, which has been shown to be a large part of her etheric image and thus could be taken to mean their friendship. This picture wouldn't make sense if Annie were going to continue to spend most of her time at the court. Granted, it's from a different book, and could have just applied to their summer vacation except for the fact Kat wasn't at the court while Annie was in the forest. This could all just be a coincidence, but I highly doubt it. I think Tom has always planned for Annie to be the forest medium.
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Post by quoodle on Feb 20, 2013 18:00:55 GMT
I don't think we can expect Annie to move to the forest - after all, were that so, she's not need to be an "Honorary" citizen thereof.
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Post by karmicpear on Feb 20, 2013 18:20:34 GMT
If Annie does become the forest medium, I wonder if Kat'll get pissed at her again. No doubt she would if a Forest Medium actually has to, yano, live in the forest.
Either way, I don't think the chapter starting the way it did (before cutting to this scene) was random. We'll likely return to Kat before the chapter ends to get her perspective on whatever the outcome is.
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Post by exuberancium on Feb 20, 2013 18:34:05 GMT
I think Kat would be happy so long as Annie doesn't actually go live in the forest.
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Post by qiam on Feb 20, 2013 18:50:20 GMT
It's doubtful that Annie will go live in the forest - the comic IS named Gunnerkrigg Court, after all. Frequent visits should suffice.
And in any case, I think Annie would turn this job down if it meant being away from Kat.
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Post by karmicpear on Feb 20, 2013 19:10:58 GMT
The comic is named Gunnerkrigg Court, true... but the chapter is named Changes We'll see!
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Post by Nnelg on Feb 20, 2013 19:36:25 GMT
I agree with punkt. If this is really happening, then the Headmaster basically just fooled Coyote into allowing both mediums to be from the Court. It's like convincing an enemy nation to use one of your own citizens as an ambassador. Even if it's your most philosophically neutral citizen, it's still your citizen. That doesn't really count for much, if you think about it. The only victory is one of vanity, so long as the individual in question fulfills all other requirements of a diplomat. I really hope she doesn't accept, actually. She's accepted all of Coyote's offers so far (that I can remember?). I would really like to see her reject him and stop playing into his hand. Me too... Jones might back Coyote's move. Coyote did mention before that she is impartial. That just means she'll tell the same thing to both sides. Not necessarily that what she'll say is "this is good for the Court". Guys, I'm sure Coyote has no great plans, or has thought about it in any strategic way. He hasn't done much that couldn't be part of one, though... Probably just picked Annie on a spur of the moment brilliance. It's possible, and not mutually exclusive with him having a master plan. (The best plans are always flexible.) Why on earth would he be concerned with anything, he's a God. Four words.(Also, he isn't the only one. Just the only one we know... And then there's always the Seed Bismuth.) Ok folks, The elephant in the living room has been "what's the headmaster (court) up to?" - then we get this thrown in. A logical consequence (many here predicted it). I wonder... Did Coyote interrupt in this way specifically to stop that line of inquiry? But that would be protecting the headmaster... I wonder if Coyote's games aren't solitaire, but against a worthy opponent? Or worse... That Coyote's been pulling the Headmaster's strings all along.
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Post by Per on Feb 20, 2013 19:54:11 GMT
An offer is made. A sudden vacancy, filled.
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Post by Alexandragon on Feb 20, 2013 20:39:51 GMT
Well I can't wait to see the headmaster's face. Me too
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Post by Nnelg on Feb 20, 2013 20:46:59 GMT
I really hope she doesn't accept, actually. She's accepted all of Coyote's offers so far (that I can remember?). I would really like to see her reject him and stop playing into his hand. Me too... I just had a scary thought... What if Coyote wants Annie to refuse publicly? Doing so would somewhat "redeem" Annie in the Court's eyes, without actually changing Annie's opinion of the Court at all (nor her intense individuality). This would fall well in line with the notion that Coyote's trying to set up a "free agent" inside the Court itself, a "loose cannon" that can damage the Court from the inside. (The advantages should be obvious; at least one is the possibility of Annie 'disabling' the Annan Water "defence system".) If true, this gives a reason why Coyote allowed Ysengrin to go into berserk mode at Annie. She has to worry about how Ysengrin will feel about losing the Medium position now... (EDIT: Or if that wasn't planned, it still might be the only reason Coyote feels safe that Annie will decline his offer.) Or worse... That Coyote's been pulling the Headmaster's strings all along. Full paranoia mode now: Coyote's manipulations are the reason why the Headmaster chose Smitty for Medium. (Whether the control is direct or more subtle is another matter... Probably subtle.)
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Post by ctso74 on Feb 21, 2013 0:07:25 GMT
It's all diplomatic chess = Its all about Reynard It does seem that way. Though, that's assuming there's a singular reason for playing and only two sides. The shadow/robot/tree tried to take Rey, but who's to say it was under Coyote's orders. We know there's an unseen party involved with the Tic-Tocs. There could be an unknown third party involved, affecting everyone's moves.
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Post by ctso74 on Feb 21, 2013 0:17:31 GMT
Poor Chuckles. The first word he gets to say all chapter is after getting fired. Perhaps, the headmaster will offer him a job. I see him teaching Home Ec.
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Post by quoodle on Feb 21, 2013 0:51:03 GMT
Just noticed: Ysengrin said "But...", Just like Smitty and Parley. (but not Annie).
Quite an interesting game of chess, no? Pawns don't have many moves, until they're promoted.
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Post by Nnelg on Feb 21, 2013 1:07:18 GMT
The shadow/robot/tree tried to take Rey, but who's to say it was under Coyote's orders. Ysengrin planted the seed that grew into its arm.
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Post by aaroncampbell on Feb 21, 2013 1:20:00 GMT
Everyone is all googly-eyed over the art in the last panel, and I too think it is beautiful, but after a moment of looking at it a rather disturbing thought occurred to me. What if those aren't stars that are being portrayed, but memories? Between Coyote's "Great Secret" explanation of his origins and his more recent (and presumably ongoing) mistreatment of Ysengrin, Coyote's imagery here might be as dark and sinister as it is mesmerizing.
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Post by americonedream on Feb 21, 2013 2:32:54 GMT
Everyone is all googly-eyed over the art in the last panel, and I too think it is beautiful, but after a moment of looking at it a rather disturbing thought occurred to me. What if those aren't stars that are being portrayed, but memories? Between Coyote's "Great Secret" explanation of his origins and his more recent (and presumably ongoing) mistreatment of Ysengrin, Coyote's imagery here might be as dark and sinister as it is mesmerizing. I take it to mean his general association with having put the stars in the night sky. Oh, but if you're right, though...*shudder* Might not even be from Ys, he could've taken memories from others as well. I miss when Coyote was only mildly terrifying. :C
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Post by ryos on Feb 21, 2013 5:47:58 GMT
I should have seen this coming, but I didn't. And now I can see how Coyote set it up ever since he manipulated Ysengrin into attacking Annie. Surprising and inevitable. Perfect.
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Post by exuberancium on Feb 21, 2013 13:00:13 GMT
The next comic will probably go something like: Antimony: But- Coyote: THEN IT IS SETTLED!
Then everyone starts trading jobs with each other, but in the confusion, Ysengrin ends up being Smitty's roommate which leads to the production of the highest rated sitcom of all time.
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Post by keeana on Feb 21, 2013 16:33:15 GMT
Who's to say it was under Coyote's orders? Well, Rey thinks that Coyote tried to take him on the bridge, plus we saw that the shadow man who did it had an extra set of ears/horns. www.gunnerkrigg.com/?p=281I like the stars=memories idea a lot! Ysengrin should teach yoga.
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Post by Corvo on Feb 21, 2013 18:47:37 GMT
The next comic will probably go something like: Antimony: But- Coyote: THEN IT IS SETTLED! Then everyone starts trading jobs with each other, but in the confusion, Ysengrin ends up being Smitty's roommate which leads to the production of the highest rated sitcom of all time. I'm already writing the script for that. By the way, their neighbor is Red.
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Post by americonedream on Feb 21, 2013 19:56:23 GMT
If the sitcom has a jazzy 80s theme song opening showing bits of the show that were in the pilot but never end up on the actual show, I'm in. We can call it, Whose afraid of the big bad brows? or Smitface and Wolftree.
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Post by 0o0f on Feb 21, 2013 22:22:57 GMT
Then everyone starts trading jobs with each other, but in the confusion, Ysengrin ends up being Smitty's roommate which leads to the production of the highest rated sitcom of all time. No lie, I would watch that.
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