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Post by shihido on Feb 20, 2013 9:14:38 GMT
I think since Coyote asked Annie directly, I don't think the court can object.
Whether they allow it or not, it won't be up to them.
Jones might back Coyote's move. Coyote did mention before that she is impartial.
However Annie might face some repercussions from the court should she accept the position (which she probably would, seeing as to how she reacted to the news of not being selected for the position).
I expect Reynard would have something to say about this offer, before Annie decides tho. He might advice caution, but I doubt he would stand in her way if she decides to proceed.
I highly doubt that this will result in Annie's expulsion from the court. Coyote probably sees her presence there as an advantage, which he would lose if she was expelled.
How the Headmaster reacts, that i got to see.
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Post by zimmyzims on Feb 20, 2013 9:15:25 GMT
Lovely drawn Annie in the last panel!
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Post by zimmyzims on Feb 20, 2013 9:16:21 GMT
On a side note, this was probably not court's plan... or who knows, maybe they're reeeeally cunning there.
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Post by notacat on Feb 20, 2013 9:25:20 GMT
So might Ysengrin be shunted sideways into the role of Protector, thus making him Eglamore's counterpart?
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Post by King Mir on Feb 20, 2013 9:27:55 GMT
I think since Coyote asked Annie directly, I don't think the court can object. Whether they allow it or not, it won't be up to them. Coyote is there to accept the court's medium, so it stands to reason that the court would need to accept the forest’s medium. Also, in general, a diplomat must be deemed acceptable by both sides.
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Post by hnau on Feb 20, 2013 9:29:04 GMT
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Post by csj on Feb 20, 2013 9:30:26 GMT
Hahahahahaha! How very forward of you, Coyote!
I'm not sure Annie would be willing to accept his offer straight away, but I suspect he will be more than happy to give her all the time in the world, if it meant gaining an effective mole in the Court.
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Post by TBeholder on Feb 20, 2013 9:38:12 GMT
An offer... you can't refuse! I recall someone called this ages ago. Kudos to whoever that was... though whether she ACCEPTS is a different matter entirely. Who didn't? Given her recent Forest experiences... Ah, but when Coyote says "recent events", 'Grin and most of the Court folk hear one thing, while Annie, Eglamore and presumably the Headmaster hear entirely another. Also, now Coyote is the one who finally would have a Medium playing both sides just like Jones wanted. Good, good. ;D magical - who else to represent the Forest - she will have to live amongst the forested folks ... "Honorary citizen", and she already did. I just realized this: If Annie becomes the Forest's medium, Reynardine will probably come with her - back to the Forest. It's not like she would have to live there, just be available any time Coyote wants to hear a story calls. But yeah, it would be the perfect pretext... if anyone except Coyote needed it, that is. The question is, would the Court allow that? Would Annie allow the Court to not allow it? ...and if the ol' bag o' bones got ulterior motives, like isolating her, the jig will be up in seconds. Whatever he says, there's an excellent point - "remember what happened the last time Ysengrin was here?" I also just had a thought - how is Ysengrin going to react to this? If she isn't too shocked, Annie should finally have a clue to do the smart thing - go out-of-body and talk with them semi-"privately". In light of recent events (as in, a few previous pages), she won't want to displace 'Grin just like that, after all. Meanwhile, the court has a medium who they can control, as well as lots of knowledge about Annie. Advantage: Court. Assuming that Smitty is easily controllable is a big mistake... and Coyote probably already knows this. I see Jones offering to assist Annie and the others about mediation since they still are young. It's good, though! Everyone is already friends and if Annie accepts, it would make communication between each party simple. In other words: they three are in Jeanne investigation together already, and whoever says whatever, are used to heed Jones first of all. So if Annie agrees now, they are going to essentially become the united arbitration team clearly prioritizing Jones and their own internal council over either side. Oh, and Jones never had her own long-term schemes... right?.. right?
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Post by sotha on Feb 20, 2013 9:52:27 GMT
Maybe Renard should start his own faction, and lure all beautiful girls from the other two to it. The Court, The Forest and The Chick Parlour. A brilliant idea, but you forgot one detail! Whom would the Chick Parlour appoint as its medium?
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Post by cu on Feb 20, 2013 9:58:11 GMT
A brilliant idea, but you forgot one detail! Whom would the Chick Parlour appoint as its medium? No one. When you have all the beautiful girls already, what do you need a medium for?
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Post by Geekette on Feb 20, 2013 10:09:50 GMT
I'm not sure whether it would be a good idea for Annie to accept, but I think the chances that she will are higher than people think. Aside from having positive relations with many of the forest folk; Annie's confidence has been directly linked to her skill with etheric talents and acting as a medium for a while now. She's so good that she gets to hang with the big kids, and in fact was expecting to be chosen of them for the position of Medium. At her age, losing that position in what looks like a popularity-contest stunt can really throw her. So its entirely possible that she's going to accept the Coyote's offer on impulse - both to prove that she is a good medium to herself, and in a 'that will show them' sense.
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Post by heranje on Feb 20, 2013 10:11:34 GMT
In other words: they three are in Jeanne investigation together already, and whoever says whatever, are used to heed Jones first of all. So if Annie agrees now, they are going to essentially become the united arbitration team clearly prioritizing Jones and their own internal council over either side. Oh, and Jones never had her own long-term schemes... right?.. right? I do love this thought. I would hope this would happen rather than them being divided. I also really like the idea of Annie as forest medium just the same day as Kat has been "officially" proclaimed the Angel of the robots. Methinks these two friends are going to end up as central figures on different sides of a conflict.
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Post by King Mir on Feb 20, 2013 10:40:15 GMT
Yeah, I think she will take the position. I just hope she ok's it with Ysengrin, so that he's not slighted.
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Post by 0o0f on Feb 20, 2013 10:54:37 GMT
Oh man, I remember seeing someone speculate that this would happen, but I didn't think it would. Guess I'm not good at predicting things.
Anyway, the last panel is lovely.
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Post by Trism on Feb 20, 2013 11:11:29 GMT
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Post by Toloc on Feb 20, 2013 11:20:07 GMT
oh my God, it's full of stars! Beautiful page!
As it has been pointed out, that would give Jones indirect control or at least very much influence over both Court and Forest diplomatic relations. Interesting.
I also recall someone calling something like this happening some time ago.
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Post by legion on Feb 20, 2013 11:21:05 GMT
Coyote: God of twisting (both metaphorically and literally)
Yes, I can see it:
Tom: "hm, what should do for this chapter?" Coyote: "HAVE FIRE HEAD GIRL BECOME THE FOREST MEDIUM, HAHAHA" Tom: "welp, okay" Coyote: "HAHAHA"
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Post by moonwolf727 on Feb 20, 2013 11:27:32 GMT
I'm not very sure that she will but I get the feeling that Ysengrin would really appreciate it, secretly, of course, if Annie said something along the lines of "But what about Ysengrin?" or "I don't think that's fair on Ysengrin".
However, the chances of Annie saying anything like that aren't very good considering she still remembers the rage-out he had earlier.
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Post by hnau on Feb 20, 2013 12:17:34 GMT
There's still no counterpart to Eglamore on the forest side. Ysengrin could become the official Human Slayer, a role more fitting to a general.
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Post by slybrarian on Feb 20, 2013 12:20:04 GMT
I agree with punkt. If this is really happening, then the Headmaster basically just fooled Coyote into allowing both mediums to be from the Court. It's like convincing an enemy nation to use one of your own citizens as an ambassador. Even if it's your most philosophically neutral citizen, it's still your citizen. Coyote might think he's made a good choice, due to her sympathetic personality and irreverence to authority, but the reality is he can't control her any more than the Court can. Meanwhile, the court has a medium who they can control, as well as lots of knowledge about Annie. Advantage: Court. The Court may think that, but I wouldn't be too sure. Just wait until they want him to do something that he subconsciously thinks is wrong or disorderly.
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Post by TBeholder on Feb 20, 2013 12:30:40 GMT
As it has been pointed out, that would give Jones indirect control or at least very much influence over both Court and Forest diplomatic relations. Interesting. Oh, come on... it's not like this wasn't foreshadowed? (here's no separate smiley for this, but that's mad giggling)
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Post by hurston on Feb 20, 2013 13:54:56 GMT
What if Coyote engineered Ysengrin's rage bout to make Annie's relationship with the forest seem unstable so that the court would choose someone else leaving Coyote to poach Annie for the forest (perhaps making her more willing to deal with Jeanne on their behalf).
Given that Reynard doesn't want to go back to the forest, I can't see that going down too well with him though, unless of course this is all another way to persuade him to go back.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 20, 2013 14:17:52 GMT
annie no annie wait stop think about this for a moment
How often would a forest citizen/medium get to see Kat? What about that trip you were going to take with her?! D:
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Post by crank on Feb 20, 2013 14:36:37 GMT
Well, Smitty's probalby relieved about this turn of events. Who would want to have to deal directly with Ysengrin? This way he gets to mediate with Annie! Which seems like a much less terrifying situation.
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Post by exdevlin on Feb 20, 2013 14:42:34 GMT
I, for one, was hoping Annie finally gets to spend a summer with the Donlans, whatever her duties were. Are summer holidays still possible for forest mediums?
Reynardine looks very neutral. Either he suspects Coyote is up to something, or the gears in his head are turning.
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Post by Lightice on Feb 20, 2013 14:50:06 GMT
Kudos for everyone who predicted this. I was sure that Coyote wasn't going to just let go of his favourite toy that easily, but I really didn't expect him to be so open about it. But lets not make any mistakes here; Coyote is playing the same game as the Headmaster. He is pressing Annie on by making the declaration right on the spot, just as the Headmaster did with Smitty, and at this point I'm practically certain that the two have almost identical motivations: to screw with each other and establish their dominant position. In any case, for the moment: Coyote -- 1 Headmaster -- 0 Incidentally, Coyote has yet another unique look in the last panel. I wonder what the night sky signifies, here... I'm just worried about what this means for poor Ys, though! If Annie does accept, what will become of him? I'd hate to see him killed or kicked out of his tree body. There's hardly any concern about this. Ysengrin has been around well before the position of Medium even existed and back when he was still actively working in the position he didn't even have the tree body, yet. Though all things considered, it would be good for him to give it up for completely unrelated reasons; it's making him a cripple, for one thing. Alas, I really doubt that the comic is ever going to leave the Court and the Forest behind. I suspect it's more likely that Kat is going to stay to keep Annie company the next time round. Assuming that Annie takes up Coyote's offer, maybe she could bring friends along to the Forest from time to time?
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Post by mochakimono on Feb 20, 2013 15:00:37 GMT
Well I can't wait to see the headmaster's face. Somewhat less bored than moments prior, I predict.
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Post by quoodle on Feb 20, 2013 15:11:54 GMT
Ok folks, The elephant in the living room has been "what's the headmaster (court) up to?" - then we get this thrown in. A logical consequence (many here predicted it). I'm pretty sure this was the court's plan all along (or maybe since she spent the summer in the forest). We'll see if he "tells" something in the next few comics. Like Tom said - Coyote's probably not very good at Poker. Prepare for pandemonium on Friday.
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Post by Rafael on Feb 20, 2013 15:17:04 GMT
Thankfully I carry a bottle of water with me for just this sort of occasion.
Congratulations to whoever predicted that, because at least in my case it was completely unexpected.
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Post by helicopter on Feb 20, 2013 15:28:10 GMT
What if Coyote engineered Ysengrin's rage bout to make Annie's relationship with the forest seem unstable so that the court would choose someone else leaving Coyote to poach Annie for the forest (perhaps making her more willing to deal with Jeanne on their behalf). This was my initial thought, but now I'm torn. I can't decide if the headmaster made this decision to put Smitty in a strategic position to carry out some wacky plot in the forest, or if he wanted to keep Annie, or more importantly Renard, close to home. Or both. Like, it seems like he wasn't thinking about Annie's mishaps when he made the call. Regardless, I can't wait to see what goes down on Friday.
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