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Post by todd on Feb 13, 2013 11:40:07 GMT
Perhaps, Coyote would act more orderly than Andrew. Like Gargoyle's Puck did with Vogel, he could try to out Smitty Smitty. It be hilarious to see which would give out first: Coyote's patience or Andrew's nerves. Nice to find another "Gargoyles" fan here. It's not as bad as we'd feared; the "furthermore" led in to an appointment for Parley rather than a punishment for Annie. But who knows what will come on Friday?
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Post by goldenknots on Feb 13, 2013 11:58:33 GMT
The more I think about it, the more I like this turn of events. Being a medium is all well and good, but being a free agent comes with its own perks. Antimony needs some distance between herself and the manipulators. And besides that, this sets up a possible disaster that she'll be uniquely capable of averting at the last moment. Parley and Smith will do fine at first, something will go wrong, and then "along comes Antimony".
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Post by karakai on Feb 13, 2013 12:19:52 GMT
There's one thing I'm curious to see how plays out. Since Parley is going to be Smitty's protector; will that end up being a hindrance to them since they are an item? Any decisions they make are going to more likely be 'tainted' by concern over the other's safety and not necessarily whatever events happen at the time.
Part of the reason the (US at least) military doesn't deploy married couples to the same post.
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Post by Lightice on Feb 13, 2013 13:10:30 GMT
There's one thing I'm curious to see how plays out. Since Parley is going to be Smitty's protector; will that end up being a hindrance to them since they are an item? Any decisions they make are going to more likely be 'tainted' by concern over the other's safety and not necessarily whatever events happen at the time. The difference is that they're not military. They're not expected to work as a part of a larger unit. Parley will be expected to put all her attention to protecting Smitty while out in the Forest, so if anything, the relationship is an extra motivating factor for good work. Just for a fun fact, back in ancient Macedonia they once put together an army consisting entirely of gay couples on the principle that they would make a truly unbreakable shield-wall with the protective attention they'd give to the guy next to them. It worked well enough to put down the famous Spartans for a good time, too. It's not compareable to modern military tactics ofcourse, but it just goes to show that there's a precedent for just about anything.
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Post by Nnelg on Feb 13, 2013 13:58:00 GMT
If I were to hazard a guess, the Headmaster (and anyone else who apparently made these choices, if there was anyone else) is thinking like Nnelg and trying to outmaneuver Coyote's shenanigans. If he is, he's doing a horrible job of it: making Smitty the Medium without even warning Annie in advance plays right into Coyote's hand. The intense theorist who posts 'round these parts. Started this thread. One theory does not an "intense theorist" make... Hell, this could be part of a larger scheme to turn Parley into a pseudo-neo-Jeanne. No. Rude the Headmaster may be, but not evil. These times are not desperate enough for such measures. The Atrocity of the Annan Waters is a prime example of "For the Greater Good" and "The Road to Hell is Paved with Good Intentions". (Not that every intention was good, or even good enough to justify such actions, but nevertheless they were there.)Just for a fun fact, back in ancient Macedonia they once put together an army consisting entirely of gay couples on the principle that they would make a truly unbreakable shield-wall with the protective attention they'd give to the guy next to them. It worked well enough to put down the famous Spartans for a good time, too. I've never heard of that one. Are you sure it wasn't the revolutionary (for the day) combined-arms tactics of Alexander the Great, and his Companion Cavalry? (Who, despite the name, were *probably* not gay.)
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Post by zimmyzims on Feb 13, 2013 14:35:40 GMT
No. Rude the Headmaster may be, but not evil. Are you sure?
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Post by crank on Feb 13, 2013 14:37:13 GMT
I wonder if they'll continue to let Annie visit the forest and keep training in the ether, or if this is the end of her visits with Coyote and the gang? Maybe she can tag along with Smitty and Parley. At the very least, she can continue to signal with her blinker stone when they want to meet with Coyote... to the best of my knowledge, Smitty doesn't have this ability (yet).
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Post by zimmyzims on Feb 13, 2013 14:44:55 GMT
Just for a fun fact, back in ancient Macedonia they once put together an army consisting entirely of gay couples on the principle that they would make a truly unbreakable shield-wall with the protective attention they'd give to the guy next to them. It worked well enough to put down the famous Spartans for a good time, too. I've never heard of that one. Here, not exactly Macedonian, but anyway.
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Post by qiam on Feb 13, 2013 15:21:10 GMT
Wait, so was Eglamore Surma's "protector" previously? I can't help but notice this is a subtle way of introducing military force into the force... especially one that might have Coyote's tooth!
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Post by exdevlin on Feb 13, 2013 15:45:56 GMT
I'm expecting some sort of twist, where Annie gets a position that is better than being Medium. I'm really rooting for this one.
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Post by alexei on Feb 13, 2013 16:17:05 GMT
This tasteth like a test
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Post by Kriselia on Feb 13, 2013 16:31:20 GMT
I wonder if it's normal for the court to ignore the more spiritual parts of mediumship?
The way it was presented earlier, I'd assumed assisting the psychopomps deal with delusional ghosts was part of the job for Surma. And when Mort said Annie was attractive "Like a magnet... or a medium..."
Smitface most likely can't even see the pomps, since it was established as rare, and has he shown any ether-talent so far?
Or are there just 2 completely different kinds of mediums and the Court just wants theirs to be an ambassador?
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Post by atteSmythe on Feb 13, 2013 16:32:51 GMT
You know...I don't get it. Is there a reason why Mr. Slouchypants has ultimate authority over these sorts of things? There isn't, you know, a committee or something? There could be, theoretically, but it appears that no one but him knew this would happen, and I think it's unlikely that he could have kept it quiet if anyone else knew. I don't think he does have ultimate authority - note Jimmy-Jims says 'they,' not 'he.' He's part of the Court's governing body, and as headmaster of the school, the one who announces their decisions to the student body and faculty. I wouldn't be surprised at all to learn that we've not met a single other member of the Court's governing body, however.
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Post by heranje on Feb 13, 2013 17:01:37 GMT
Annie's face is still making me sad, but I'm coming round to the idea that her as a free agent will actually be a good thing... slightly worried that the next update is a weekend cliffhanger, though!
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Post by avurai on Feb 13, 2013 17:12:29 GMT
I am absolutely horrified by Gunnerkrigg Court today.
I smell a conspiracy in my bones.
First, the Court (by way of Lindsay) has Rey in a separate room, which was never an issue before, then they snub her for the position of medium. I get the feeling the Court is being calculating and manipulating this in order to isolate Annie more from the forest and the etherial in general.
They're trying to tie her down like one of the forest creatures. Essentially like an animal. Only they're using 'diplomacy' and regulation to do it.
I was suspicious about them moving Rey to begin with, but right now it seems like everything is all coming together in order to tether Annie and it's all very... indirectly, atmospherically, violating.
I don't like this at all.
However, I get the feeling we've been focusing much in the Forest but not on the Court. What with the recent developments for Kat, I get the sense we're about to see a shift in that focus.
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Post by Raph on Feb 13, 2013 17:21:05 GMT
I kind of want this turn of events to lead into a story about the headmaster. Or I'm just dreaming it would be something personal so that everyone can yell "YOU'RE A JERK!" and feel super good abut it, maybe because there is an actual reasonable reason and there something more in the store for Annie... could it be because of her father even if we know the littlest about him?
There is also room for interesting changes in Annie's everyday life at the Court... Let's just hope she does not get severely depressed about this, it'd be sad for her to lose all that character progress she made by accepting she can have her mother's soul and be herself at the same time.
The theories! Because Tom can only be so cruel.TM
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Post by exuberancium on Feb 13, 2013 18:22:31 GMT
He's not even given them a chance to respond. Something's up.
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Post by Mezzaphor on Feb 13, 2013 18:46:23 GMT
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Post by Nnelg on Feb 13, 2013 19:13:57 GMT
No. Rude the Headmaster may be, but not evil. Are you sure? If he were the Evil Mastermind-type, he would have known better than to alienate a being as powerful as Renard against him by emotionally devastating the one he cares about most like this. I mean, he didn't even tell Jones about his decision. It's as if he were trying to make things as... fubar as possible. (That's the only term I can think of that even begins to describe it.)So, no he's not evil; unless you mean the "internet troll" kind of evil as opposed to the truly villainous kind of Evil. (The kind that one spells with a capitol 'E', and which was what I was talking about.)
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Post by GK Sierra on Feb 13, 2013 20:08:58 GMT
One theory does not an "intense theorist" make... Embrace your title, Nnelg-san. It is your destiny.
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Post by Purgatorius on Feb 13, 2013 20:33:35 GMT
Everyone in Grobetög is named Nnelg.
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Post by zimmyzims on Feb 13, 2013 20:49:29 GMT
If he were the Evil Mastermind-type Who ever said Evil has to be Mastermind-type? I can see a lot of plain Evil that is not Mastermind. He can do, what he is doing, by evil intentions as opposed to being merely rude. He can have evil plans on forest or Annie, or Smitty for that matter, and not just being bluntly rude about rather nonchalant and disinterested choices. ...and, concerning mastermind, just because you do not see his plans, nor the power that is behind him, doesn't mean that there wasn't any. Maybe he is just too cunning for you to figure out his ruse.
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Post by mithrandir on Feb 13, 2013 21:06:06 GMT
There are several reasons I can think of for this: - The Headmaster is concerned with Annie's unruliness - he thinks she's too immature to take the role.
- The Headmaster thinks Annie has become too close to the Forest and doesn't trust her to take the Court's positions fairly.
- The Court has other plans for Annie - plans they don't wish to discuss in front of Coyote. We've certainly got reason to suspect those plans would be less than wholesome, but it's not like Coyote's plans are any better.
Subnote: if it's this one, why didn't he tip anyone else off? Perhaps because he wants Coyote to think Annie is out of favor with the Court.
But mostly, I'm just hoping that Annie's silence so far isn't because she's too flabbergasted to respond, but because she's stifling a response. That she has the sense to realize that - whatever the Headmaster's reasons - if he isn't interested in discussing them with Jones right now, he certainly won't be interested in discussing them with anyone else.
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Post by Eversist on Feb 14, 2013 0:09:46 GMT
I need Coyote/Ys to say something. Next page, maybe? I'm surprised Coyote hasn't chimed in yet. He's not even given them a chance to respond. Something's up. This entire comic is up.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 14, 2013 2:09:07 GMT
This whole Gunnerkrigg Court is whack, yo.Shit is up.Up through the ROOF!
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Post by Marnath on Feb 14, 2013 3:39:26 GMT
I need Coyote/Ys to say something. Next page, maybe? I'm surprised Coyote hasn't chimed in yet. He did. Second panel of the last update. It's the first time I can remember ever seeing him caught completely off-guard. He appears to have legitimately not anticipated this development.
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Post by Kriselia on Feb 14, 2013 3:40:22 GMT
I need Coyote/Ys to say something. Next page, maybe? I'm surprised Coyote hasn't chimed in yet. I know right! I wanna know how this affects their "no humans in Gillitie" rule anyway, since Surma and Annie weren't exactly human. And will Parley be allowed into the woods themselves? After all, Jimmy wasn't. C'mon Coyote, time to steal the spotlight.
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Post by Nnelg on Feb 14, 2013 4:17:26 GMT
Who ever said Evil has to be Mastermind-type? I can see a lot of plain Evil that is not Mastermind. He can do, what he is doing, by evil intentions as opposed to being merely rude. He can have evil plans on forest or Annie, or Smitty for that matter, and not just being bluntly rude about rather nonchalant and disinterested choices. That's what I meant by "Mastermind": having plans for people. And if his intentions are evil, his methodology is insane. Alienating people who can hurt you later is rarely a good idea. ...and, concerning mastermind, just because you do not see his plans, nor the power that is behind him, doesn't mean that there wasn't any. Maybe he is just too cunning for you to figure out his ruse. That argument could be used for anyone. For instance: How do you know Red's fooling around isn't an act, and that she isn't some super-secret fairy spy?
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Post by Deleted on Feb 14, 2013 4:30:14 GMT
And if his intentions are evil, his methodology is insane. Alienating people who can hurt you later is rarely a good idea. Unless one is trying to provoke said peeps into aggressive action in order to justify an even more aggressive response. Well, we don't, actually. We can make inferences and say that that's unlikely given the events we've been shown, but anything's possible, especially in the zany, wacky world of speculation.
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Post by Nnelg on Feb 14, 2013 4:35:27 GMT
He did. Second panel of the last update. It's the first time I can remember ever seeing him caught completely off-guard. He appears to have legitimately not anticipated this development. Does he? It looks like feigned surprise to me. (It's kinda hard to tell with a drawn comic character, I guess.) EDIT: Unless one is trying to provoke said peeps into aggressive action in order to justify an even more aggressive response. I was talking about alienating Annie/Rey. We can make inferences and say that that's unlikely given the events we've been shown, but anything's possible, especially in the zany, wacky world of speculation. Right; which is why something merely being possible isn't valid evidence to support it.
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